Gregory to leave UD?

Runnin' Rebel · #1 02-08-2010, 08:55 AM

A former Flyer told me today that a lady he knows on the inside of UD has inside information that Gregory is going to Depaul, and that we're getting one of Duke's current assistant coaches (she did not know the name unfortunately).

I hate the rumor mill, but I had to put this out there since I trust my source - can't comment on his source inside UD though.

SC_Flyer · #2 02-08-2010, 08:58 AM

Please just lock this thread down now someone.

flyerfanatic86 · #3 02-08-2010, 09:22 AM

BG didn't go to DePaul before, he won't go now.

NCkevi · #4 02-08-2010, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

I hate the rumor mill, but I had to put this out there since I trust my source - can't comment on his source inside UD though.

Your source = Fail

San Diego Flyer · #5 02-08-2010, 09:41 AM

My sources say that you almost have it right. Actually Mike K is leaving Duke and going to DePaul, and Coach Gregory will go to Duke if Izzo turns it down. Jim Jabir would then take over the men's program at UD. You heard it first here.

hawkoooo · #6 02-08-2010, 09:42 AM

the grass is yellow and weed-infested on the other side. this would be a very irrational coaching move and would set him back years in the progress he has made as a division 1 basketball coach.

ndflyer · #7 02-08-2010, 09:43 AM

I heard Roy Williams is leaving UNC, well being pushed out for kicking out the heckling fan, and is taking the job at UD and BG is going to UNC with Chris Wright as part of the trade.

AC91 · #8 02-08-2010, 09:49 AM

I really cannot believe that. I'm not naive enough to think BG wiull never leave. However, and i don't care what conference they are in, Depaul's job is not a step up for him at all. From a coaching and legacy point of view, his best years are ahead of him at UD and he's already done very well. He finally has a steady pipeline of his type of players, improved recruits coming in. The foundation is finally set. I just cannot see him giving that up for a job like Depaul's.

Phyler Phan · #9 02-08-2010, 09:59 AM

Hopefully this is the most irrational thing I hear today. I doubt that you truly have an inside source SC and if you do you should seriously consider dropping them from your contact list.

Phyler Phan · #10 02-08-2010, 10:01 AM

Sorry to SC. I meant Runnin Reb.

Sea Bass · #11 02-08-2010, 10:04 AM

someday he will.

Hard to believe that it will be for Depaul in 2010. The position is what is termed a "coach killer". Whoever takes the job better get the cash up front.

lilrudy4787 · #12 02-08-2010, 10:07 AM

Considering the Big East is most likely considering dropping Depaul, i find it hard to believe BG would even be considering them.

Sea Bass · #13 02-08-2010, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by lilrudy4787

Considering the Big East is most likely considering dropping Depaul, i find it hard to believe BG would even be considering them.

that would be the best thing that could happen to Depaul. Their facilities and lack of commitment will have them stuck in (or near) the cellar for years to come.

Glen Clark · #14 02-08-2010, 10:20 AM

Big win (Xavier beatdown) = Brian Gregory is leaving.

But he's not taking the Depaul job - that goes to Jim O'Brien.

Gregory is taking over the Pacers and bringing all the UD upperclassmen with him.

UD is dropping scholarship basketball to concentrate on football (to be well positioned for the Big Ten-Big East realignment).

The Arena will be converted to a music venue (Tina Turner opening).

You heard it first here. . .

Medford · #15 02-08-2010, 10:27 AM

I'll never claim BG to DePaul isn't out of the realm of possibilities, but if he didn't take either of the last two times it was offered to him, why would he take it now? It would be a terrible career move. DePaul spends less money on hoops than UD does, so its not like they can exactly blow him out of the water w/ money. On top of that, its not like BG has exactly accomplished the type of success that would warrent getting "blown out of the water for". Think some DePaul Alum is going to step up and donate a couple of millon to DePaul to make sure they land a coach w/ exactly 1 NCAA win at this point.

While we're on the subject of BG, now to a rumor I do believe from a source I trust. I guess BG had a special boxing rob made up specifically for him, and pressed to have it delievered to him by 5:00 am saturday morning. I am told that he was absolutely in love it. I assume BG used this as a pre-game motivational ploy on Saturday (hence the need for the lady making it to stay up all night to get it done) and was a tie in to all the boxing workouts they did over the summer and how they needed to deliver a knock out blow to X while fighting for their NCAA lives.

Assuming he did indeed use it for Saturday's pregame speech, I'd have loved to have seen that. Whatever he said, he certainly had UD coming out all gang busters.

dwyerbrg · #16 02-08-2010, 10:32 AM

Archdeacon said he came did exactly that Medford. Came into the locker room to LL Cool J's "Mama Said Knock You Out."

Link

UACFlyer · #17 02-08-2010, 10:32 AM

No doubt there are big time advantages to being a BE member, not the least of which is money. But, for schools like DePaul, Providence, Seton Hall,...even St. Johns,...being in the BE is like swimming in a tank full of sharks.

Imagine being in a 16 team conference with the likes of Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, Lousiville. Just finishing in the top half of the conference is a daunting goal for the likes of a DePaul, much less being one of the top programs. Only Villanova and Georgetown among the Catholics have been able to handle it on a consistent basis. There is no way on earth that I'd want to see UD in the 16 team Big East.

If the Catholics split off at some point,...well that's a bit different. But as is, a school like DePaul is in a decidedly unattractive position. DU is not a desirable job for a Dayton coach.

Medford · #18 02-08-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by dwyerbrg

Archdeacon said he came did exactly that Medford. Came into the locker room to LL Cool J's "Mama Said Knock You Out."

Link

Thanks I hadn't seen that story. Niece piece on Rob as well, I forgot about that angle of the game. Perhaps its puts even more perspective on his intentional foul to make sure the senior walkons got as much time on the court as possible. As class a move as you'll ever see, I kind of missed in the excitement of the game, but certainly brought a smile to my face as I watched it on my DVR Sunday morning.

udscott · #19 02-08-2010, 10:43 AM

do i think he is leaving UD this year ? nope, but what you need to remember is this the big east is a much better conference than the a-10, and every coach always believes they can turn a program around and make it a powerhouse program, so we can babble all we want but none of us knows whats going on inside BG's head

The Fat Tuna · #20 02-08-2010, 10:43 AM

No.

I am one who thinks that he won't be here forever, probably two more years, but leaving for DePaul would be dumb. Now if the Illinois job came open....you know, I could even see Iowa. As bad as they are, I could somehow rationalize that. But not DePaul.

Sea Bass · #21 02-08-2010, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Fat Tuna

I could even see Iowa. As bad as they are, I could somehow rationalize that.

in the current version of college basketball getting a BCS job isn't such a prize in a lot of cases. Iowa has turned into one of those jobs, there is a reason Alford walked away from Iowa for a non-BCS school. At least 20% of jobs in BCS conferences are simply coach killers and are likely to remain so no matter who is the head coach.

BG has spurned Depaul twice and if the source I had was correct BG turned down a different BE school 2 years ago. If he simply wanted to leave for the BE he has had the chance. Someday he will leave but he seems like a smart guy. The fact that he turned down two jobs before he came to UD and some after he has been here leads me to believe that when BG moves on everyone on the board will nod and believe the move makes sense. BG to Depaul or Iowa, as that job may come open, just don't make sense in the current environment.

JimBo · #22 02-08-2010, 11:11 AM

Maybe I am being extremely naive about this, but I really feel that BG is dedicated to UD to the point that there are very few jobs he would actually pursue. I really don't think he is like most coaches who will leave at the drop of a hat when someone with more money comes calling. I don't think he wants to leave UD with an unfinished feeling.

He loves UD, and he backs his talk with actions. I never got that feeling from OP, for example. He never really truly embraced the university, it's history and traditions. I know BG will move on someday, but it's going to take something like the Michigan St. job to pull him away from UD.

I, for one, feel so fortunate to have him as head coach of the Flyers.

UACFlyer · #23 02-08-2010, 11:15 AM

And don't forget that BG has a few things to accomplish at UD. BG has yet to win an A10 title, regular season or tournament;....he has yet to get the Flyers to the Sweet 16, a concensus step to be considered "competing for the national champiosship";.... indeed, he has yet to re-establish the Flyers as a nationally prominent program.

We're/he's definitely on the right track. But that's not enough. Failure to make the Dance this year will be a setback, especially considering well justified expectations at the start of the season.

Canonball · #24 02-08-2010, 11:29 AM

I think he'll be here until MSU opens up. Supposedly that might happen sooner than we think because Izzo apparantly doesn't want to coach to long.

shapanud · #25 02-08-2010, 11:41 AM

Depending on how this season ends for UD, I think Penn St may make a play for BG if they fire DeChellis at the end of this year. I'm not saying I 100% think he'll go there if offered, but I could see him saying yes to PSU before Depaul.

Sea Bass · #26 02-08-2010, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by shapanud

Depending on how this season ends for UD, I think Penn St may make a play for BG if they fire DeChellis at the end of this year. I'm not saying I 100% think he'll go there if offered, but I could see him saying yes to PSU before Depaul.

PSU is coaching death(worst job by far in the Big10), that is as unattractive BCS job as there is (even worse than Depaul).

MD Flyer Pride · #27 02-08-2010, 12:04 PM

Check out this video highlight...

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=65238283001

At the very end, if you play it very slowly and watch it backwards, the voices say "BG is leaving for DePaul!". This is absolutely wild! BG is definitely gone.

Go Flyers!

SLUFLYER · #28 02-08-2010, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by JimBo

Maybe I am being extremely naive about this, but I really feel that BG is dedicated to UD to the point that there are very few jobs he would actually pursue. I really don't think he is like most coaches who will leave at the drop of a hat when someone with more money comes calling. I don't think he wants to leave UD with an unfinished feeling.

He loves UD, and he backs his talk with actions. I never got that feeling from OP, for example. He never really truly embraced the university, it's history and traditions. I know BG will move on someday, but it's going to take something like the Michigan St. job to pull him away from UD.

I, for one, feel so fortunate to have him as head coach of the Flyers.

I don't believe he's leaving anytime soon. Certainly not for the DePaul job. I agree with most of what you've said, both about BG and OP.

The only spot I differ is that "he is not like most coaches". Most coaches are just like that, most coaches. BG will leave when the time is right - which means the right opportunity. I don't believe that opportunity is available right now. In April? Perhaps.

Here's to hoping that when all of the jobs are open in April, BG's name is at the top of the lists. That would be a good sign that I had a great March.

TCEagleAnnouncer · #29 02-08-2010, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

A former Flyer told me today that a lady he knows on the inside of UD has inside information that Gregory is going to Depaul, and that we're getting one of Duke's current assistant coaches (she did not know the name unfortunately).

I hate the rumor mill, but I had to put this out there since I trust my source - can't comment on his source inside UD though.

A former Flyer told me today that a lady he knows said Megan Fox, Miranda Kerr, and Jennifer Aniston all want to date me simultaneously.

I trust my source.

cjswartz · #30 02-08-2010, 01:20 PM

Depaul is a terrible job and I have no idea why any good coach would want to go there. Also, I don't think BG has done enough here at Dayton to merit getting a high profile job just yet. A sweet 16 run this year would change all of that though.

TCEagleAnnouncer · #31 02-08-2010, 01:20 PM

Treeman, San Diego Flyer's post was very tongue in cheek...

Treeman89 · #32 02-08-2010, 01:23 PM

okay, i missed that

JimBo · #33 02-08-2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER

The only spot I differ is that "he is not like most coaches". Most coaches are just like that, most coaches. BG will leave when the time is right - which means the right opportunity. I don't believe that opportunity is available right now. In April? Perhaps.

I agree he will leave when the right opportunity comes along, I only say he is not like most coaches in that his "right opportunity" criteria is a lot more stricter than most coaches. That's where he differs.

UDBrian · #34 02-08-2010, 01:57 PM

After a couple of losses there is a thread that maybe Gregory should be run out of town. After a couple of wins there is a thread that Gregory won't be staying long. He cannot win.

San Diego Flyer · #35 02-08-2010, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by TCEagleAnnouncer

Treeman, San Diego Flyer's post was very tongue in cheek...

So was the initial one by runnin' rebel. Notice he never posted again.

Columbia Blue · #36 02-08-2010, 02:13 PM

love me some Coach Gregory!

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../2010BG-MJ.jpg

premania · #37 02-08-2010, 02:23 PM

DePaul is not that bad of a job. It has unlimited potential. It is in the top conference in the country, its in a top media market, the expectations are low so you will get a fair shake, and its in one of the top recruiting areas in the country.

If BG could pull in a few of the top players in the area each year like he has done at UD, then DePaul would be stacked and back in the top 25 in no time.

Sea Bass · #38 02-08-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by premania

DePaul is not that bad of a job. It has unlimited potential. It is in the top conference in the country, its in a top media market, the expectations are low so you will get a fair shake, and its in one of the top recruiting areas in the country.

If BG could pull in a few of the top players in the area each year like he has done at UD, then DePaul would be stacked and back in the top 25 in no time.

awful facilities, no fan support and no administration support to upgrade = recipe for disaster.

Depaul hasn't gotten where they are because they have hired the wrong coaches. They have arrived about the bottom because they have neglected the program for the last 20 years and thought that because of who they are winning basketball was their birthright.

My comment when Depaul joined the BE was that someone has to finish last. They jumped into the BE and obviously were too dumb to realize that they had neither the resources nor the inclination to compete at that level. Depaul has years of heavy lifting ahead to make the upgrades necessary to build a foundation necessary to winning.

UD got their wakeup call started their transition after OB was fired and the Great Midwest basically kicked them out by forming a new conference.

AlumUD · #39 02-08-2010, 03:49 PM

DePaul = Fordham in the Big East. Not a chance BG goes there after turning them down twice already.

Flyer1407 · #40 02-08-2010, 04:05 PM

I find it hard to believe that

1)BG has told Dayton he is leaving and 2, that Dayton already has a successor lined up. This guy is just stirring the pot.

goodbyeflyer · #41 02-08-2010, 04:08 PM

The only reason anyone still links Gregory with DePaul is because he is from Chicago. He has turned them down twice, and I believe that Gregory makes more money at UD then Wainwright did at Depaul. Not to mention that Gregory happens to get every endorsement deal that the Dayton area has to offer, I have lived in Chicago my whole life (except for 4 years at UD) and I have never seen a DePaul coach after Pat Kennedy in any advertisement. Also, the cost of living in Chicago is a lot higher than Dayton, so from a financial perspective I don't see it happening. Honestly, I think he would be more likely to take the Northwestern job than the DePaul job if he wanted to come back to Chicago and we all know that would be a step down from most strong mid-majors.

Runnin' Rebel · #42 02-08-2010, 04:11 PM

SD Flyer, the reason why I have not replied is because I'm at work and can't watch this thread all day long (in fact I'm going around my company's web-filtering policy just to post - so shhhhh).

I should have known better to post this rumor because I feel the same way as all of you, but... I have never rec'd 1 piece of incorrect information about the UD program from this person.

I also found it interesting this time, as the administration supposedly has already hand-picked his replacement (seems similar to when OP left and they had Gregory waiting in the wings).

premania · #43 02-08-2010, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sea Bass

awful facilities, no fan support and no administration support to upgrade = recipe for disaster.

The fan support will come with winning. If they administration were to get BG or someone like him they would be paying a nice price. So that to me would show support if they go that route over some assistant coach that would be had for cheap.

Its a job where they need someone like Brian Kelly did for UC football. The coach will need to be a great PR/Salesman, be able to recruit from the tons of local talent, and sell the administration on upgrading the facilities. The potential at DePaul is huge, they just need to find the right guy to harvest it.

NCkevi · #44 02-08-2010, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

I also found it interesting this time, as the administration supposedly has already hand-picked his replacement (seems similar to when OP left and they had Gregory waiting in the wings).

Actually BG was not waiting in the wings - TK had a wish list and was ready when OP left - I think he meet with several people at the final four but it come down to BG and Jirsa

SLUFLYER · #45 02-08-2010, 04:24 PM

If this has any merit to it, my guess on the Duke assistant would be Collins. Plenty of Mid-western roots with his dad having been at Illinois State and also coached the Bulls.

Only other staff member who "might" be head coach ready would be Wojihowdoyouspellmynameski, but he's been all east coast, not that it makes a huge difference.

Flyer 86 · #46 02-08-2010, 04:27 PM

you know how t'is. when we win against pitt and xavier and west virginia , he's leaving. Runnin Reb, if you hate the rumor mill, why be a part of it?

when we lose, Gregory's career is over and he's a second rate assistant somewhere.

Beat the Niners arses.... Go Flyers!

xubrew · #47 02-08-2010, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by premania

DePaul is not that bad of a job. It has unlimited potential. It is in the top conference in the country, its in a top media market, the expectations are low so you will get a fair shake, and its in one of the top recruiting areas in the country.

the same things can also be said about northwestern. go figure. must be something in the water up there.

having said that, i don't get why depaul is having so much trouble. i don't expect the entire city to get behind them, but at least their own students and alumni could be more enthusiastic. it's a private school, it's a rather tight nit community meaning students and alumni appear to form attachments to the place. it's in a great conference. it's in a great location right in lincoln park. it's in a city that loves basketball. it's in a city with great high school basketball at both the catholic and the public schools. the allstate arena isn't on campus, and that kind of sucks, but the campus is right next to the train station so it isn't as if it's a difficult place for students to get to.

i really just don't get it. depaul has a lot to sell. i actually agree that the glass ceiling there is extremely high. it has the potentially to be hugely successful. i can't help but think the only thing that is really holding depaul back is depaul itself.

Atlantic 10 · #48 02-08-2010, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by MD Flyer Pride

Check out this video highlight...

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=65238283001

At the very end, if you play it very slowly and watch it backwards, the voices say "BG is leaving for DePaul!". This is absolutely wild! BG is definitely gone.

Go Flyers!

Paul is dead, I heard that on the Sgt. Peppers vinyl

San Diego Flyer · #49 02-08-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

I should have known better to post this rumor because I feel the same way as all of you, but... I have never rec'd 1 piece of incorrect information about the UD program from this person.

I also found it interesting this time, as the administration supposedly has already hand-picked his replacement (seems similar to when OP left and they had Gregory waiting in the wings).

By all means let's pour some more gasoline on it.

Great timing. This will have a life of its own. BG will be obliged to refute it just when a distraction is the last thing our stretch run needs.

pjflyer · #50 02-08-2010, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

A former Flyer told me today that a lady he knows on the inside of UD has inside information that Gregory is going to Depaul, and that we're getting one of Duke's current assistant coaches (she did not know the name unfortunately).

I hate the rumor mill, but I had to put this out there since I trust my source - can't comment on his source inside UD though.

Keep your "inside" info to yourself next time. This is below worthless. I'll bet you any amount you want that this doesn't happen. You really think he has been offered the Depaul job and has accepted it and UD knows about this?

SeasonTicketFan · #51 02-08-2010, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

A former Flyer told me today that a lady he knows on the inside of UD has inside information that Gregory is going to Depaul, and that we're getting one of Duke's current assistant coaches (she did not know the name unfortunately).

I hate the rumor mill, but I had to put this out there since I trust my source - can't comment on his source inside UD though.

Ted Kissel just called in to the Flyer News to announce that X will fire Chris Mack tomorrow and replace him with BG immediately. Matt Farrell will coach UD for the Charlotte game.

MrFlyerFanatic · #52 02-08-2010, 05:03 PM

BG is gone.
He's going to SLU. Leaving Friday. Taking the entire team and coaching staff with him.

Sea Bass · #53 02-08-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by premania

The fan support will come with winning.

Depaul hasn't drawn since the 80s, they play in barn 20 miles from campus.

bobber · #54 02-08-2010, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by xubrew

the same things can also be said about northwestern. go figure. must be something in the water up there.

having said that, i don't get why depaul is having so much trouble. i don't expect the entire city to get behind them, but at least their own students and alumni could be more enthusiastic. it's a private school, it's a rather tight nit community meaning students and alumni appear to form attachments to the place. it's in a great conference. it's in a great location right in lincoln park. it's in a city that loves basketball. it's in a city with great high school basketball at both the catholic and the public schools. the allstate arena isn't on campus, and that kind of sucks, but the campus is right next to the train station so it isn't as if it's a difficult place for students to get to.

i really just don't get it. depaul has a lot to sell. i actually agree that the glass ceiling there is extremely high. it has the potentially to be hugely successful. i can't help but think the only thing that is really holding depaul back is depaul itself.

De Paul is a commuter school. That type of institution does not breed loyal students or alumni like a residential campus does. In fact, look around Chicago. Loyola has a bandbox of a gym and can't draw flies (again, largely it is a commuter school). The same is true of UIC, which has a big, relatively new arena built with taxpayer funds that they hardly ever come close to half way filling. Again, UIC is a commuter school.

Yet Northwestern, with a residential campus, has had a number of sell outs already this year at Welsh-Ryan arena. It isn't the water....its student and alumni loyalty. And if you live at home and are a part-time student, or a non-traditional student, and possibly holding down a job at the same time, you just don't spend much time on campus and bond with the institution. And you have a difficult time participating in extracurricular activities.

Falcon7 · #55 02-08-2010, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by AlumUD

DePaul = Fordham in the Big East. Not a chance BG goes there after turning them down twice already.

It all depends on how many of these: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Chris R · #56 02-08-2010, 06:26 PM

DePaul took a good coach in Jerry Wainwright -- a guy that recruited well at Richmond and UNCW and did things there that were quite exceptional given their pedigrees -- and spit him out. Dave Leitao benefited largely from Pat Kennedy's ability to land guys like Q Richardson and establish some street cred inside Chicago -- but even Kennedy's Top-10 recruiting classes never saved his own job.

When I see good coaches struggling at the same school, that tells me the one constant in that equation is the school and that could be much of the problem. No doubt DePaul is in the right city, but Im not sure they are in the right conference.

If someone offered me a chance to jump from the A10 to the BE, I would turn it down immediately. The path to the NCAA is much easier in the A10 than the BE. You can finish 11th in the BE and feel like you had a successful season and still not make the NCAAs. Competing against UConn, Pitt, Cuse, West Virginia, etc is a futile effort because of football money. DePaul isnt Nova or Georgetown either.

Nevermind the Demons play in a dump, have anemic attendance unless they are winning 27 games a year, have a huge commuter population, and share the newspaper headlines with Notre Dame and UI-Champaign.

When Izzo finally decides to sip Pina Coladas on the beach, his first recommendation will be BG. And Izzo's recommendation at MSU is as good as the escalating price of gold. MSU will want to keep it in the family, just as Izzo took over from Jud. There isnt a better school to tread water at than UD if you are truly waiting for the MSU job. BG could take the DePaul job and be unemployed in 4 years and have to perform damage control on his coaching career.

Why would you want to rebuild Camelot at DePaul when you are already an NCAA player at UD?

The Big East is overrated in my opinion. Its great if you are Syracuse. But for SJU, SHU, Providence, DePaul, etc that are hoops only programs, it's a coaching death trap. Besides, BGs kids are either in school or nearing school age. Why upset that apple cart needlessly.

Whatever money DePaul would offer, Dayton would match. Purnell did not leave because of money. I have it on bulletproof authority that Clemson's financial package was aggressively countered by UD so as to make it a non-factor over the life of his UD annuity.

Lets drop Fordham and add DePaul to the league. Or drop SLU if Majerus really hates it here and do the same. DePaul has a very good women's program and some excellent secondary sports.

ManhattanFlyer · #57 02-08-2010, 06:48 PM

I love these posts

DIGGER PHELPS ON A PLANE TO DAYTON. PRESS CONFERENCE TO BE HELD TUESDAY AT 9:00 AM.

You heard it here first!

UDBrian · #58 02-08-2010, 07:09 PM

Digger wants to know if UD fans still throw toilet paper at opposing coaches.

Coach Jabir is as good of an example as you ever need on moving for perceived glory. He had two top 15 classes at Marquette and a top 20 team. He left that for a chance in the big east and nearly wrecked his career. He says that you will have to drag him out of here now.

Not everyone craves more money or more publicity. There are actually some coaches that are thankful for their position.

Runnin' Rebel · #59 02-08-2010, 07:26 PM

Please, for the love of God, delete this thread.

And hurry too, cause according to SD Flyer it will cause the demise of the team down the stretch run.

And don't worry, I promise I will never again share any information I hear from any ex-flyer again.

Apologies for ruining so many people's day today.

UD90 · #60 02-08-2010, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by premania

DePaul is not that bad of a job. It has unlimited potential. It is in the top conference in the country, its in a top media market, the expectations are low so you will get a fair shake, and its in one of the top recruiting areas in the country.

If BG could pull in a few of the top players in the area each year like he has done at UD, then DePaul would be stacked and back in the top 25 in no time.

Just like Cincinnati

Tony T 71 · #61 02-08-2010, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Please, for the love of God, delete this thread.

And hurry too, cause according to SD Flyer it will cause the demise of the team down the stretch run.

And don't worry, I promise I will never again share any information I hear from any ex-flyer again.

Apologies for ruining so many people's day today.

Don't go away mad...just go away

jack72 · #62 02-08-2010, 08:55 PM

"I heard from a friend, who heard it from a friend that you been messin' around.

BG to Kentucky after Calapari gets on probation next year. Calapari is taking the DePaul job.

TN Flyer · #63 02-08-2010, 09:09 PM

Somebody please lock this thread. If not for the rumors, then for the sake of literacy. This thread has the worst spelling and grammar I've seen in quite some time! Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

goodbyeflyer · #64 02-08-2010, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by xubrew

the same things can also be said about northwestern. go figure. must be something in the water up there.

having said that, i don't get why depaul is having so much trouble. i don't expect the entire city to get behind them, but at least their own students and alumni could be more enthusiastic. it's a private school, it's a rather tight nit community meaning students and alumni appear to form attachments to the place. it's in a great conference. it's in a great location right in lincoln park. it's in a city that loves basketball. it's in a city with great high school basketball at both the catholic and the public schools. the allstate arena isn't on campus, and that kind of sucks, but the campus is right next to the train station so it isn't as if it's a difficult place for students to get to.

i really just don't get it. depaul has a lot to sell. i actually agree that the glass ceiling there is extremely high. it has the potentially to be hugely successful. i can't help but think the only thing that is really holding depaul back is depaul itself.

There is no train that takes you from Lincoln Park to the Allstate Arena (dePaul's home gym.) The arena isn't even in the city, it in a suburb called Rosemont and is at least w/ out traffic a 25 minute drive from the Lincoln Park campus. But its Chicago and there is always traffic. You could feasibly take the brown/ purple/ or red from depaul into the Loop and then take the Blue line back out to the Rosemont area but that would be an hour at the least. Depaul has buses that take kids to the game like UD anyway. Also, DePaul is not a commuter school.

xubrew · #65 02-08-2010, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by bobber

De Paul is a commuter school. That type of institution does not breed loyal students or alumni like a residential campus does. In fact, look around Chicago. Loyola has a bandbox of a gym and can't draw flies (again, largely it is a commuter school). The same is true of UIC, which has a big, relatively new arena built with taxpayer funds that they hardly ever come close to half way filling. Again, UIC is a commuter school.

Yet Northwestern, with a residential campus, has had a number of sell outs already this year at Welsh-Ryan arena. It isn't the water....its student and alumni loyalty. And if you live at home and are a part-time student, or a non-traditional student, and possibly holding down a job at the same time, you just don't spend much time on campus and bond with the institution. And you have a difficult time participating in extracurricular activities.

if you're from chicago you would know better than i would. i've been up and around depaul, but it was several years ago and it wasn't for anything other than just to visit. a really good friend of mine is from chicago and his girlfriend/now wife went to depaul. she was still at depaul the year after we finished up undergrad at x, so i was up there several times to hang and got to know several of her friends. i got a really good impression of it. everybody that i met seemed to like being there and felt they were getting a good experience. there was definitely a social/party scene, and it appeared that there were at least a couple thousand people who lived on campus, and just as many who lived near the campus in i guess what ud would call landlord housing. it could very well be that there are three times as many students who do commute like you said, but then again, i wouldn't know that. i only saw what was there.

i always thought it would be a really cool place to work. i like the city of chicago, and i like where the school is located. i also think that it has a lot of potential, if not to be elite, then to at the very least not suck so bad.

i completely agree with your point about residential campuses vs commuter campuses and the impact it has on a fanbase. obviously there are excpetions, but for hte most part the most passionate fanbases are often associated with residential universities.

xubrew · #66 02-08-2010, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by goodbyeflyer

There is no train that takes you from Lincoln Park to the Allstate Arena (dePaul's home gym.) The arena isn't even in the city, it in a suburb called Rosemont and is at least w/ out traffic a 25 minute drive from the Lincoln Park campus. But its Chicago and there is always traffic. You could feasibly take the brown/ purple/ or red from depaul into the Loop and then take the Blue line back out to the Rosemont area but that would be an hour at the least. Depaul has buses that take kids to the game like UD anyway. Also, DePaul is not a commuter school.

did you mean to say that depaul IS a commuter school??

is it a commuter school, or isn't it??

i also didn't realize that the train didn' go out to the arena. like i said, i've been there, but not for any basketball games.

ManhattanFlyer · #67 02-08-2010, 10:54 PM

It says here that 3000 DePaul students live on campus. There are about 17,000 undergrads at DePaul, and they have multiple campuses around Chicago. I think it depends on how you define "commuter school."

http://www.depaul.edu/admission/type..._year/faqs.asp

cralford · #68 02-08-2010, 10:57 PM

Funny, just last week he wasn't good enough to coach an intramural team

bobber · #69 02-08-2010, 11:14 PM

I know schools are touchy about the commuter label, but when only 3K of your 17K undergrads live on campus, to me that makes you a commuter school.

And brew, I used to live in the Lincoln Park area and, yes, it is very nice. Mostly the whole North Shore is nice. I'm sure there is a good social life for the kids that do live in the dorms. The main problem is, Allstate Arena is far, far from campus and as many of us have pointed out, it is a barn. It has terrible sight lines and it is dark and dingy. It is just an awful place to watch a basketball game and I am surprised, frankly, that Allstate bought the naming rights.

FlyerDan · #70 02-09-2010, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by ManhattanFlyer

It says here that 3000 DePaul students live on campus. There are about 17,000 undergrads at DePaul, and they have multiple campuses around Chicago. I think it depends on how you define "commuter school."

http://www.depaul.edu/admission/type..._year/faqs.asp

That about sums it up. 14,000 students don't know where they are going when they COMMUTE.

UACFlyer · #71 02-09-2010, 10:45 AM

Just because a school does not house a large percentage of its students on campus doesn't make it a "commuter school". What matters is where the students sleep. If they sleep in their own beds at home it's a commuter school. If they have to rent of lease space near campus that is not owned by the school they are not commuters.

When I was a UD student only a small fraction of students lived in university-owned housing. Indeed, Founders was the only dorm and UD did not own houses in the Ghetto. For four years I was on my own to find a place to live near campus. My home was 600 miles from Dayton...I was not a commuter.

Since then UD had built several high-density dorms on campus and has acquired hundreds of homes to the north and south of campus,...with the result that the vast majority of students (over 90%) live in university-owned housing. UD is a "residential" university.

So, as far as DePaul is concerned, the issue is not how many live on campus but how many commute from their homes.

DetroitFlyer · #72 02-09-2010, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Please, for the love of God, delete this thread.

And hurry too, cause according to SD Flyer it will cause the demise of the team down the stretch run.

And don't worry, I promise I will never again share any information I hear from any ex-flyer again.

Apologies for ruining so many people's day today.

Yeah, because we all know that before the college basketball world anywhere on the planet does anything; they read UDPride and plan accordingly.... That includes coaches, the press, potential recruits, university administrators, and even the janitor at the local truckstop, (he sneaks into his boss's office to use a computer).

Good grief, if UD's season falls apart because of rumor posted on a messageboard, this program has issues far beyond the rumor that was posted....

Oh, and by the way, I'm not sure but I'm thinking that this rumor or one very similar might just have been posted here before. Now I know why we did not win the National Championship last year....

Buster Goode · #73 02-09-2010, 11:53 AM

my goodness, he was right....

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayto...epaul4932.html

FlyerFanatic08 · #74 02-09-2010, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Buster Goode

my goodness, he was right....

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayto...epaul4932.html

404 not found?

VAFlyer09 · #75 02-09-2010, 01:28 PM

good joke, OR WAS IT TAKEN DOWN TO HIDE THE TRUTH?

goodbyeflyer · #76 02-09-2010, 02:16 PM

Again to reitterate.... DePaul doesn't own campus housing like UD, however most of the student, probably 75-80% live near the Lincoln Park Campus. Saying it is a commuter school is like saying Ohio State is a commuter school. The kids just don't live in campus housing.

UACFlyer · #77 02-09-2010, 03:01 PM

CR suggested that the A10 drop FU and add DU, which certainly would be better for DePaul.

But, at 14 schools the A10 is already larger than optimum. DePaul would be a better member than Fordham, though. Nonetheless, conferences are extremely reluctant to boot a member school out. Practically, with an occassional very rare exception, it just doesn't happen.

Surely the A10 would be better off without Bona, LaSalle and Fordham. The first two fit much better in the MAAC, both athletically and institutionally. I'm not sure where Fordham fits. The way that school runs its athletics program defies understanding.

Certainly it's not easy to boot a school out. But, a way to achieve conference objectives is to put the decision squarely in the hands of the school you'd prefer to be without. "Look, these are the conference standards for facilities (and maybe even performance);....meet them within five years or you're history". That way the outcome is in the hands of the school, not the conference. It's very difficult to force a standard for performance;...but very easy for facilities, and even attendance. Why the A10 doesn't do that I fail to understand.

ClearTheRunwayForWLJ · #78 02-09-2010, 03:09 PM

Fordham and Bonaventure should go to the Meac and/or Maac

The A-10 should stay with 12 teams and split them up into an East and West division.

Therefore maximizing its bids so every year it would be most likely a minimum of three teams.

Sign me up as commish and things get done.

xubrew · #79 02-09-2010, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by ClearTheRunwayForWLJ

Fordham and Bonaventure should go to the Meac and/or Maac

The A-10 should stay with 12 teams and split them up into an East and West division.

Therefore maximizing its bids so every year it would be most likely a minimum of three teams.

Sign me up as commish and things get done.

all the teams in the meac are HBCUs. fordham and saint bonaventure don't exactly fit that demographic.

fordham should move to the patriot league. they're already in the patriot league for football.

the metro atlantic would make sense for saint bonaventure since all the teams in the maac are catholic schools, and all but one of them is in the state of new york.

i for one would rather have ten teams than twelve. la salle is also a former maac member, and actually had a lot more success (ncaa tournaments, ncaa wins, top 25, etc) in that conference than they've ever had in the atlantic ten. ship one more of the eastern teams off to the colonial and we're good to go.

if only i were czar of college hoops.

Buster Goode · #80 02-09-2010, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by VAFlyer09

good joke, OR WAS IT TAKEN DOWN TO HIDE THE TRUTH?

joke.....

Flyer68 · #81 02-09-2010, 06:40 PM

This is still BG we are talking about. I am coming around to him but still has not won anything of note. Word on him still is - excellent recruiter - average floor coach. I am getting to like him pacing up and down kinda like a wild man. Surprised he does not get technicals. If leaves, I think he stays in Midwest. That's where his recruiting roots are.

Fordham is in A10 for one reason - $$$ that a NYC presence should have produced. Have been to UD-Fordham games at Fordham's dumpy old gym and UD lost. Fordham is a strange program. Went and hired a former NBA coach (Bob Hill) and he was a disaster. He could not recruit and was only interested in trying to get back into NBA. Then Fordham blew their chance when not hiring Bobby Gonzalez as coach and he went to Seton Hall. He is a NYC coach and could recruit in NYC at a time when St. Johns program was falling apart. If Fordham could upgrade its program, they would play more home games in Madison Square. That should convince at least one or two very good NYC kids to stay home each year.

It's really is a shame about Depaul. Ray Meyer must be turning over in grave. Don May and Errol Palmer at Depaul had some terrific matchups. I went to a NCAA Regional game in Kentuck in 1965? when Dayton lost to Michigan (Cazzie Russell etc) and Depaul lost to Vanderbuilt (Clyde Lee). Next night Dayton beat Depaul and Michigan beat Vanderbuilt.

Larymike · #82 02-09-2010, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by TCEagleAnnouncer

A former Flyer told me today that a lady he knows said Megan Fox, Miranda Kerr, and Jennifer Aniston all want to date me simultaneously.

I trust my source.

Any word on Mila Kunis?