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Davidson Game Thread

Davidson video is premium $$$.

Not sure why some programs especially ones not doing all that well want to charge for streaming.
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Probably want to make sure those 400+ people still come to the game instead of watching it at home for free.

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Really? A camera angle that doesn't move? Well you can see about 1/8th of the game.
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Davidson video is premium $$$.

Not sure why some programs especially ones not doing all that well want to charge for streaming.
I asked Doug Hauschild about this several years ago. Back when webstreaming was just getting started there were two schools of thought amongst A-10 programs:

a) provide it free of charge as a service to the fans
b) charge for it as an extra source of revenue

UD has always gone with option a.
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12-11 Davidson end of qtr 1. Seven!!!!! turnovers in the quarter. Geesh.
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Looks like Shauna wants to play around with personel. Playing a lot of girls. Must feel like we will eventually be too much for a weak Davidson squad.
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Make it four. Someone put a,comment out there about her weight which was such a,cheap shot,and disrespectful.
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She's feeling it. 4 for 4 from the 3
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Make it four.
Now 5.
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This will be great for her confidence. Sitting at 17 points and not yet halftime.
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Surprised rebounds are even. Containing Latt great but this Lyon is roaring
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32-27 Flyers at the half. This game should not be this close. Davidson record is 3-18.

Dayton 3 point shooting

Cannatelli - 5-5
Players not named Cannatelli - 1-11

11 Flyer turnovers

Dayton bench with 26 of the 32 points.

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Would have been a great game to watch with Lauren going off. Thank goodness she is playing great, because the others did not show up.
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Make it four. Someone put a,comment out there about her weight which was such a,cheap shot,and disrespectful.
There were several who questioned her fitness as she seemed a step slow as opponents either took the ball away from her or blew past her when she was on defense.

So my question is why are you bringing it up now, just because she is having a good night. All players receive accolades when they do well and scrutiny when they don't. Remember she was ROY last year, a lot was expected of her this year.

Lets hope this continues as we will need all our players playing up to their potential.
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SGA having tough time handling the ball from passes into the paint. Kelley having an off night shooting. Jenna foul trouble again.

Seems like another slow start against lesser competition, possibly feeling the opponent out. Can't take any opponent lightly. Go Flyers.
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I'll tell you why I'm bringing it up now and I've brought it up before. I think it's no factor whatsoever and I'm very disappointed someone would come to that conclusion
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Dayton wins 68-52!

Radio guy said Grant-Allen is now all-time leader in offensive rebounds -- NICE!

Austria moves into tie for #21 all-time scoring with Kendel Ross (1063) -- needs 36 to catch Leah Abla (1099) for #20.

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Green is usually pretty positive in her post-game comments but she sounds mad tonight. Don't envy the girls tonight!!
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I'll tell you why I'm bringing it up now and I've brought it up before. I think it's no factor whatsoever and I'm very disappointed someone would come to that conclusion
Then you explain how the ROY came in and getting stripped of the ball or being beaten on defense game in and game out. There was a point where she was beginning to see very limited pt, so the coaches saw it as well.

You saw it your way and many of us including the coaches saw it another way. Otherwise explain how she was not getting pt. It all comes down to performance.

I would bet she has been in both the weight room and been practicing shooting. Last couple games it has showed. Lets hope she keeps it up.

Would love to hear how you explain away her performance earlier this year to her ROY performance.

1. Not physically fit

2. Didn't work on her skills in the off season.

3. The ROY went to her head.

Bottom line her performance early in the season was not the LC we saw and loved last year. She seems to be back.

Is it anymore wrong to say she was not ready to play or didn't come to play at the seasons beginning than it is to state that the players other than LC didn't come to play today.

Comments aplenty stating they didn't come to play today and giving LC credit for the only one showing up.

If is not fair to say LC wasn't ready to play then its wrong to say the flyers other than LC came to play today.

Like I said no one is bashing her, she just wasn't the player she was last year. Apparently she got the message and has been working at her skills.
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Green is usually pretty positive in her post-game comments but she sounds mad tonight. Don't envy the girls tonight!!
She also kept them in the locker room a lot longer at the half.

Didn't get to hear her comments as was watching the streaming, no interviews.
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Without Lauren tonight Dayton suffers its worst loss of the season. As a whole it was not there night. Good news is that two of last three games the shots have not been falling and yet they still find a way to win.

Agree, LC player of the week.

Still needs to work on ball control and defense, but we will take her offense.
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See Giaconne still in a boot. Hope she recovers by tourney time, will need all available bodies.

All in all a lot of flyers saw pt tonight. Jenna and Kelley combined for 8 pts. Together they avg 24 pts a game. Both were foul prone tonight as well. Good news both combined for 13 assists. When not hitting your shots look for your teammates.
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It is,wrong to say her lack of playing time is because of weight or she's not physically fit. That's a ridiculous assumption and irresponsible also to say last year went to her head.
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It is,wrong to say her lack of playing time is because of weight or she's not physically fit. That's a ridiculous assumption and irresponsible also to say last year went to her head.
I listed options for you to answer, never said it went to her head, it is obvious you grant LC special concessions even when her performance didn't warrant it. Last few games she seems to be coming into her own much as Kelley is coming back into the player she was before her injuries.

I asked you to explain her poor performance in the beginning of the year, or her reduction of pt. You didn't answer any of it only stated that it was ridiculous assumption.....well lets hear your take on her poor performance in the non conference and part of the league play. Apparently all you can do is criticize fans but have no real answer of your own. Coaches, players and fans had high expectations for her to handle the pt duties along with Jenna and Kelley. Her assist to turnover ration and poor shooting don't lie.

Glad to see she may have recovered and is the player we all loved and looked forward to what ever the reasons were. But to just dismiss her poor performance is truly ridiculous. Bottom line is she wasn't contributing to the teams woes during that 3-6 beginning of Shauna Greens career.

Lets hope that is all behind and we see the LC we saw last year, we need her.
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When Burdette and Austria get in foul trouble as they did tonight - who runs the point?
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When Burdette and Austria get in foul trouble as they did tonight - who runs the point?
At the beginning of the season many felt our strength was our backcourt. Jenna was solid, Kelley would need time to fully recover, Lauren was expected to be the one to give Jenna or Kelley breathers.

The first 9 games showed our backcourt to be problemmatic. Higher than usual turnovers resulting in easy points for opponents. Stagnate offense
no matter who was at point. LC early on was a turnover machine, and had lost her touch as her shots fell short hitting the front or side of rim. Her defense had taken a backseat as opponents flew past her.

Shauna had readjust the offense to get it going. While Jenna and Kelley struggled with the offense they either got to the rim on drives or foul shots to keep scoring. On defense they were able to keep opponents at bay but far off their performance of last year.

SGA still had problems putting the ball in the basket underneath and finishing, but her shot blocking and rebounds were valuable assets even though she struggled on offense.

The freshmen were not expected to contribute that much right away, hopefully by league play.

So that put a lot of pressure on LC to be the pt guard she was the year before. Unfortunately her game did not come with her, not only was she a liability handling the ball, her shooting was way off and her defense was abysmal. It was suggested by some on here that she didn't seem to have come ready to play and need time in the weight room and lots of practice in the gem shooting.

Anyone watching LC the past 3 games has seen the LC of old emerge. Getting significantly reduced pt seemed to get her attention and what ever she has done seems to be paying off. As Shauna said regarding her last several games "we need her".

Many were concerned that Jenna and Kelley were out of necessity playing too many minutes and would wear them out come tourney time. Some started looking to Giaconne to fill that spot but along comes her injury and riding in on the white horse and answering the call is Lauren. Not sure what motivated her but she will need to take some of the load off Jenna and Kelley.

Little by little the team is coming together and at the right time, welcome back Lauren.

So to answer the question hopefully it will be Lauren as Shauna has tried Christi a time or two but she is not the answer. Desperately need Lauren to keep it up.
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I'm not going to try to explain Lauren's performance at the beginning of the year and certainly issuing theories or as I call it "speculation" I don't believe is appropriate. I'm not giving her a pass on her play early in the year but whatever the issues are (or were) I frankly don't care. Like every else on the team, I just want her to be healthy and happy and after last night I'm sure she's quite happy. I'll leave it at this, if you want to debate this in person and you come to a game you know where I am or if you come to a post season watch party we can debate this further.
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I'm not going to try to explain Lauren's performance at the beginning of the year and certainly issuing theories or as I call it "speculation" I don't believe is appropriate. I'm not giving her a pass on her play early in the year but whatever the issues are (or were) I frankly don't care. Like every else on the team, I just want her to be healthy and happy and after last night I'm sure she's quite happy. I'll leave it at this, if you want to debate this in person and you come to a game you know where I am or if you come to a post season watch party we can debate this further.
Every player on this team has at one time or another been scrutinized, but some unexplained reason you tend to get your pants in a wad when it comes to LC. The stats speak for themself, as does/did her performance. And yes she should be happy with her performance last night who in the right mind wouldn't. But its one game out of 22 games. She was desperately needed at the beginning of the season where we suffered 6 losses out of 9 games.

The team as a whole struggled and priders took to the message board to express their dismay mainly of the offense. Took Shauna those 9 games to evaluate each player and some came up short seeing their playing time reduced. Believe me there is not a prider on this message board that doesn't want to see LC and the flyers succeed. But facts don't lie. Just like Crosby on the mens team not meeting expectations priders are taking him to task. That is what message boards are for, to discuss opinions on players and how they affect the teams.

LC has had 3 straight good games with last night being a career breaker. Hopefully she is back to her freshman form. Real test will be the next game as I am sure the opponent will focus on her. Last night the focus by Davidson was to shut down Jenna and Kelley and make someone else beat them. And that is what happened, just like in the mens games when one goes down the next man steps up.

LC was a little late to the party but a welcomed sight on a bad performing night. Find it quite disconcerting that you don't know what LC issues were at the beginning of the season and don't care. You only care that she is happy. We all want to be happy but we want our veteran players to show up and play up to their expectations.

If you read other posts you will see the concern for whom will back up Jenna and Kelley, and more importantly who will take that role next year. Some are suggesting we get a JUCO to come in and assist Jenna. Those are real concerns but you just want your player to be happy and don't seemed concerned about her development and importance to the team.

BTW there is nothing to debate unless you want to spin away the stats and her early performance, stats don't lie.

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I'm not going to try to explain Lauren's performance at the beginning of the year and certainly issuing theories or as I call it "speculation" I don't believe is appropriate. I'm not giving her a pass on her play early in the year but whatever the issues are (or were) I frankly don't care. Like every else on the team, I just want her to be healthy and happy and after last night I'm sure she's quite happy. I'll leave it at this, if you want to debate this in person and you come to a game you know where I am or if you come to a post season watch party we can debate this further.
You are entitled to your opinion, as is Avid. You can say it is inappropriate, and Avid can say it is appropriate to point out what he sees as the root cause of Lauren's performance. We would tolerate those comments on the Men's site, and should treat the women the same way.
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All I'm saying again is I don't like the speculation as to why she wasn't playing well early in the year. Someone saying its a,weight issue that's ridiculous since that wasn't brought up last year.
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All I'm saying again is I don't like the speculation as to why she wasn't playing well early in the year. Someone saying its a,weight issue that's ridiculous since that wasn't brought up last year.
Oh so people don't gain weight over a year, tell my scale that. LC was lauded last year as she should have. But this is now not last year.
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I went to the UD Alumni pre-game event at UD Arena last Saturday (Jan 28). Doors opened at 12:20 pm, game started at 3 pm. Cannatelli was the only player out on the court practicing at 12:20.

There could be a million reasons why Cannatelli's performance has been below everyone's expectations -- her fitness/desire are not any of them.

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Went to the UD Alumni pre-game event at UD Arena last Saturday (Jan 28). Doors opened at 12:20, game started at 3 pm. Cannatelli was the only Flyer out on the court practicing.
That was my suspicion that LC realized she was not the player she was last year and got her butt in the gym for workouts and shooting. And it showed. What impressed me more than her career high points was her playing time. Played all of 34 minutes, her stamina looked pretty good, and she was still able to put the ball in the net in the 4th quarter. Good for her, she knew her performance was not up to expectations from last year and went to work.

Like I've said we need her and could use another guard to step up as Kelley will be gone next year and Jenna needs a companion guard as well as a guard or two to give a blow. Maybe Giaconne or layla or as some suggested a JUCO player with experience at point.
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I went to the UD Alumni pre-game event at UD Arena last Saturday (Jan 28). Doors opened at 12:20 pm, game started at 3 pm. Cannatelli was the only player out on the court practicing at 12:20.

There could be a million reasons why Cannatelli's performance has been below everyone's expectations -- her fitness/desire are not any of them.
Andyou know this how, I and several others have speculated what it could be but when you are a step slower than you were a year prior the obvious comes to mind. Again its all speculation and opinion, we have ours and you have yours. All that really matters is that she gets back up to her ability and contributes to this teams success....A10 tourney is not that far away.....and a bid to the NCAA is at stake. Go LC and Flyers!
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Clearly, a lot (more) was expected from Cannatelli this year. However, her offensive numbers -- at least percentage wise -- are pretty much identical to last year.

http://daytonflyers.com/roster.aspx?...l#career_stats
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