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Originally Posted by TommyGola View Post
X was never injured. He had a bad attitude about the new coach. He wanted to continue to fling three-point shots and Anthony wanted him to be more of a force in the paint. X made up ailments like a bad back and sore throat, and then there were the academic issues. He is gone and I hope Anthony gets a young man in here who is worthy of the Flyer uniform. X was not worthy of it.
There's an entire other thread where anyone and everyone is spewing their disdain for XW. I'd rather focus on the positive.

I don't know what to expect from Mikesell, but I'm hopeful we get a player who will be comfortable in the role he is asked to play. Someone who watched and learned this year. A player who worked on his individual skill set like shooting, ball handling, strength.

If we get that player, I see a very solid contributor who helps take the team back to where it belongs.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UDTradition View Post
Why are people so apprehensive to include Ryan Mikesell on the "can't wait to see him play" list.

He started numerous games on last year's team. Contributed quality minutes with a high BBall IQ. His IQ is probably at an all time high. His body will be healthy and ready to go. Because of his bball style - I think he will be ready to go from the blast of the starting gun.

He is finally not hampered by a genetic disorder.

Also - his ailment was not an accident. He didn't blow out a knee or similar which certainly challenges every athlete when they have returned to sports. He had sore hips and now they are not sore. I suspect that there is nothing that he can't do upon his return.

Why isn't there tremendous optimism that we have a healthy Ryan back on the team?
We are in the woe is us stage. Wallowing in our misery. Optimism doses not start until the Red & Blue game.
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Originally Posted by TommyGola View Post
X was never injured. He had a bad attitude about the new coach. He wanted to continue to fling three-point shots and Anthony wanted him to be more of a force in the paint. X made up ailments like a bad back and sore throat, and then there were the academic issues. He is gone and I hope Anthony gets a young man in here who is worthy of the Flyer uniform. X was not worthy of it.
He actually does have an injury. He was receiving treatment last Friday. I know this because my family member was receiving treatment at the same place at the same time. So yes X’s time here did not work out but we shouldn’t chastise a 21 year old college athlete for not living up to our expectations. Just wish him luck and hope he figures it all out as he continues to learn.
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Originally Posted by UDTradition View Post
Why are people so apprehensive to include Ryan Mikesell on the "can't wait to see him play" list.

He started numerous games on last year's team. Contributed quality minutes with a high BBall IQ. His IQ is probably at an all time high. His body will be healthy and ready to go. Because of his bball style - I think he will be ready to go from the blast of the starting gun.

He is finally not hampered by a genetic disorder.

Also - his ailment was not an accident. He didn't blow out a knee or similar which certainly challenges every athlete when they have returned to sports. He had sore hips and now they are not sore. I suspect that there is nothing that he can't do upon his return.

Why isn't there tremendous optimism that we have a healthy Ryan back on the team?
I'm excited to see what he can do. Glad he's healthy and working hard. Beyond what he can do on the court he seems like a guy who could provide some much needed upperclassman leadership.

We've seen flashes like the SE Missouri as a freshman & Alabama, Vanderbilt St. Bonnies last year.
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We are in the woe is us stage. Wallowing in our misery. Optimism doses not start until the Red & Blue game.
Or maybe Detwon Rogers memory is still in some folks head.

Ryan has great court sense and we can use that anytime.
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Bucky said during a broadcast after Mikesell has been practicing for about a month. That he was the second best player on the court. Now that makes me optimistic.
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That does not make me optimistic. I like Ryan a lot, but if he's the second best player on the court, we've got issues.
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That does not make me optimistic. I like Ryan a lot, but if he's the second best player on the court, we've got issues.
This post makes no sense. You saw the rest of the team play this season, we clearly have issues. If Mikesell and/or Toppin are better than what we put on the floor this season that would be the one of the few reasons for optimism.
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Originally Posted by UDTradition View Post
Why are people so apprehensive to include Ryan Mikesell on the "can't wait to see him play" list.

He started numerous games on last year's team. Contributed quality minutes with a high BBall IQ. His IQ is probably at an all time high. His body will be healthy and ready to go. Because of his bball style - I think he will be ready to go from the blast of the starting gun.

He is finally not hampered by a genetic disorder.

Also - his ailment was not an accident. He didn't blow out a knee or similar which certainly challenges every athlete when they have returned to sports. He had sore hips and now they are not sore. I suspect that there is nothing that he can't do upon his return.

Why isn't there tremendous optimism that we have a healthy Ryan back on the team?
Not sure, probably because people have been led to believe before that someone looked "great" in practice and then when that said player came back and didn't score 38 points in his debut, they felt underwhelmed.

For his basketball IQ alone (rarely makes a stupid pass, always sees the entire court, etc..) I can't wait to see him back on the court. I can't imagine how difficult it was to play with chronically sore hips knowing that it would affect everything from defense to your shot. I don't expect him to post 21 points his first game back but I'm willing to bet we'll all see high quality minutes - and that is what this team needs.
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Saying good bye to X does not make the Flyers a better team next year than this year. He was not playing let alone starting and the Flyers lose a senior who is expected to be replaced by an incoming freshman.

There is a lot of man love for Landers on this board but if he is starting in the role he played this year the team will not be any better than this year and perhaps worse. You have to like his hustle but a power forward he is not. He could play the three spot but that is not ideal for the team or he could play the 2 spot but then who sits Jordan Davis or the new freshman savior? My own opinion is that Trey is a born sixth man who comes in and plays a variety of positions, gets as much time or more on the court as any of the starters but he should not be a starter.

This team needs a makeover in the front court. Maybe Mikesell is not the answer but the status quo is definitely a recipe for failure.
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This post makes no sense. You saw the rest of the team play this season, we clearly have issues. If Mikesell and/or Toppin are better than what we put on the floor this season that would be the one of the few reasons for optimism.
Still remember Archie’s comments when he landed Mikesell...”he will be everyone’s favorite player in a couple years.” I’ll take another Cunningham/Trey level player. Predicting he’ll be the glue that holds things together out there...the soccer midfielder who will hit the upper 90 if open with a crap load of assists.
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My own opinion is that Trey is a born sixth man who comes in and plays a variety of positions, gets as much time or more on the court as any of the starters but he should not be a starter.
The fact that Trey can play a variety of positions should not keep him from being a starter. Personally, I am going to set the tone early with the guys that bust their butts on every possession and reward those that give their all at every practice.

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Saying good bye to X does not make the Flyers a better team next year than this year. He was not playing let alone starting and the Flyers lose a senior who is expected to be replaced by an incoming freshman.

There is a lot of man love for Landers on this board but if he is starting in the role he played this year the team will not be any better than this year and perhaps worse. You have to like his hustle but a power forward he is not. He could play the three spot but that is not ideal for the team or he could play the 2 spot but then who sits Jordan Davis or the new freshman savior? My own opinion is that Trey is a born sixth man who comes in and plays a variety of positions, gets as much time or more on the court as any of the starters but he should not be a starter.

This team needs a makeover in the front court. Maybe Mikesell is not the answer but the status quo is definitely a recipe for failure.
You have no idea if they are not a better team minus X Williams. Take away a bad attitude and replace that with a possible grad transfer, excellent JUCO player or another high level freshman who has not signed yet....Safe to say x gave them nothing this year..
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The best player on every struggling football team is the backup quarterback. The best players on struggling college basketball teams are redshirt players. Fan perspective give always.

I don’t have big expectations for Mikesell next year. Will he suddenly become more athletic? He is smart player and he knows where to be on the court. I am just not sure if he is an impact player.

I like more of what I have seen of Toppin, but again that has only been practice and a limited number at that.

Any contributions from Mikesell will be a plus, but I don’t expect Josh Cunningham type contributions either.

To be successful next year, this team needs to do more than learn how to hold its own. It needs to be much more powerful especially on defense and on the road.
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The best player on every struggling football team is the backup quarterback. The best players on struggling college basketball teams are redshirt players. Fan perspective give always.

I don’t have big expectations for Mikesell next year. Will he suddenly become more athletic? He is smart player and he knows where to be on the court. I am just not sure if he is an impact player.

I like more of what I have seen of Toppin, but again that has only been practice and a limited number at that.

Any contributions from Mikesell will be a plus, but I don’t expect Josh Cunningham type contributions either.

To be successful next year, this team needs to do more than learn how to hold its own. It needs to be much more powerful especially on defense and on the road.
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Are you okay?....any contributions from Mikesell? What is it toppins stache you like?.....

I am done until next October....someone send an alert if we get a recruit
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The best player on every struggling football team is the backup quarterback. The best players on struggling college basketball teams are redshirt players. Fan perspective give always.

I don’t have big expectations for Mikesell next year. Will he suddenly become more athletic? He is smart player and he knows where to be on the court. I am just not sure if he is an impact player.

I like more of what I have seen of Toppin, but again that has only been practice and a limited number at that.

Any contributions from Mikesell will be a plus, but I don’t expect Josh Cunningham type contributions either.

To be successful next year, this team needs to do more than learn how to hold its own. It needs to be much more powerful especially on defense and on the road.
How "athletic" is the Aldridge kid at Davidson? Basketball "smarts" can make up for a small dose of athleticism.
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There was a 'kid' I seem to remember that had BB smarts and grit that was unparalleled on the team. I don't think he was given much athletic cache during his entire career yet he turned out plenty dam good.

I think his name was :

https://twitter.com/daytonmbb/status/707945009216135169

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I thought Paxson was very athletic. Deceptive quick.

There are exceptions to every rule. Larry Bird did not look athletic either. For every Larry and Jim, there are hundreds and thousands of players who are OK.

Mikesell did not exactly tear it up his first two years. He some moments here and there.

What I saw of Toppin, he is long and tall, has some quickness and has a nice touch around the basket. Again, only limited views this year.
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It happens all the time. Why not us? Add a player or two, lose an attitude or two, and the team does a 180. I can't begin to tell you how we will do it, but we have experience and upgrades which have a chance to gel next season. But like the past few years we will know early when we are done with Atlantis what the future holds.
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I thought Paxson was very athletic. Deceptive quick.

There are exceptions to every rule. Larry Bird did not look athletic either. For every Larry and Jim, there are hundreds and thousands of players who are OK.

Mikesell did not exactly tear it up his first two years. He some moments here and there.

What I saw of Toppin, he is long and tall, has some quickness and has a nice touch around the basket. Again, only limited views this year.
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There was a 'kid' I seem to remember that had BB smarts and grit that was unparalleled on the team. I don't think he was given much athletic cache during his entire career yet he turned out plenty dam good.

I think his name was :

https://twitter.com/daytonmbb/status/707945009216135169

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With an improved Mikesell who knows but don't sell him short (OH! A double PUN!!! or is it?)
Sir NJ71, did you ever see Jim Paxson play? Help me out here because you can't be sober/sane/serious if you're making a comparison of the athleticism of Mikesell vs Paxson.
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That does not make me optimistic. I like Ryan a lot, but if he's the second best player on the court, we've got issues.
There is zero basis for this comment. Having not seen the best of RM, you've decided his best just won't do.

On a very good team where his job was to just do grunt work, and hobbled by injury, he got 5.7 / 3.9. (Devin Oliver: 4.9 / 5.0 as a sophomore in the same number of minutes.)

There is no reason he can't significantly improve on that, particularly from outside of 3, with better lift in his legs.

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There is a lot of man love for Landers on this board but if he is starting in the role he played this year the team will not be any better than this year and perhaps worse.
So you're saying you would take this lineup:
Crutcher (Fr.), Davis (Fr.), Davis (Sr.), Landers (So.), Cunningham (Jr.)

Over this lineup:
Crutcher (So.), Davis (So.), Landers (Jr.), Mikesell (Jr.), Cunningham (Sr.)

Good luck with that. How much shall we wager?

I remember this one guy who started as a sophomore. Couldn't shoot straight, undersized, and could only go left but played his heart out. Kyle something-or-other. Was the heart and soul of the team. Many said "if he's starting next year we're screwed". A GREAT many. He started as sophomore, then as a junior and a senior. That team turned out decent.

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I thought Paxson was very athletic. Deceptive quick.

There are exceptions to every rule. Larry Bird did not look athletic either. For every Larry and Jim, there are hundreds and thousands of players who are OK.

Mikesell did not exactly tear it up his first two years. He some moments here and there.

What I saw of Toppin, he is long and tall, has some quickness and has a nice touch around the basket. Again, only limited views this year.
SMH. You know, Mikesell has a lot in common with Larry Bird, John Chambers, John Paxon, Jim Paxon, John Stockton, Jerry West, Kevin McHale, Gordon Heyward, etc. And that thing is. . .

Now Toppin, HE'S QUICK. I once saw him dribble past a guy in practice.
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That does not make me optimistic. I like Ryan a lot, but if he's the second best player on the court, we've got issues.
So getting players that are better than the ones we have currently is a bad thing? Are you also hoping that Cohill, Toppin and Matos are worse than the players we have?
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So getting players that are better than the ones we have currently is a bad thing? Are you also hoping that Cohill, Toppin and Matos are worse than the players we have?
This is so nonsensical I'm not sure how to respond. In fact, I think I'll just let the stupidity of your comment shine for all to see.
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There is zero basis for this comment. Having not seen the best of RM, you've decided his best just won't do.

SMH. You know, Mikesell has a lot in common with Larry Bird, John Chambers, John Paxon, Jim Paxon, John Stockton, Jerry West, Kevin McHale, Gordon Heyward, etc. And that thing is. . .

Now Toppin, HE'S QUICK. I once saw him dribble past a guy in practice.
The entirety of the statement was about upgrading the talent on the team via recruiting. I like RM, but if you're comparing him to Bird, McHale, Paxon, etc., well, I don't know what to tell you. Those guys were some of the best in the NBA ever for their time. RM is not the next coming of Larry Bird
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Why are many forgetting that three freshmen, Crutcher, Davis, Kostas, are all going to be better than they were this year which in and of itself makes next years team better. Not to mention, I'm not convinced Trey has hit his ceiling yet. Get a similar year from Cunningham and we should be much better with just those five not to mention the possibility of more depth with Matos, Toppin, Mikesell and Cohill (although he may need a year of seasoning to truly contribute).
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We don't know what Mikesell is capable of. A bad hip inhibits daily life let alone basketball

He has put up some good games against major conference competition when you look past the stat line

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The entirety of the statement was about upgrading the talent on the team via recruiting. I like RM, but if you're comparing him to Bird, McHale, Paxon, etc., well, I don't know what to tell you. Those guys were some of the best in the NBA ever for their time. RM is not the next coming of Larry Bird
You missed the point on my comparisons.
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Actually in those clips above from Ryan's first two years he is moving pretty well. It makes you wonder how long it took to break down, and what kind of tolerance is he going to enjoy over a tough long schedule. Makes me recall Kendall Pollard's struggles. Hope it all works out for Ryan.
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Why are many forgetting that three freshmen, Crutcher, Davis, Kostas, are all going to be better than they were this year which in and of itself makes next years team better. Not to mention, I'm not convinced Trey has hit his ceiling yet. Get a similar year from Cunningham and we should be much better with just those five not to mention the possibility of more depth with Matos, Toppin, Mikesell and Cohill (although he may need a year of seasoning to truly contribute).

I'm thinking we might actually be pretty good . . .
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Me thinks you folks doubting Mikesell as an athlete might need to understand what being an athlete really means. So if Mikesell ran faster than a young Paxson (very easily might have), jumped higher than him (Mikesell can get up), could hit a baseball better and farther, could play shortstop better than Paxson (Mikesell a heck of a baseball player), throw a football better, play golf better, play tennis better, etc. would Paxson still be a "better athlete" than Mikesell or maybe, just maybe, a far better basketball player? You need to decipher exactly what athleticism and what being an athlete really means and not get caught up in all the slobber regarding ESPN top ten dunks...
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Sir NJ71, did you ever see Jim Paxson play? Help me out here because you can't be sober/sane/serious if you're making a comparison of the athleticism of Mikesell vs Paxson.
I saw most of Paxson's home games in person his Jr/Sr years. Mikesell reminded me of him early on. Paxson never stopped moving, it was amazing.

Not sure we can ever compare two guys separated by 40 years. They do have similar attributes.

What we know now about Mikesell's health his sophomore year explains what we saw last year.

RM may not be JP, but if he's 100% RM, he has a chance to be a very good A-10 player, likely not an NBA player. There's no reason he couldn't be a similar player to the kid at Davidson. We'll see.
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"So you're saying you would take this lineup:
Crutcher (Fr.), Davis (Fr.), Davis (Sr.), Landers (So.), Cunningham (Jr.)

Over this lineup:
Crutcher (So.), Davis (So.), Landers (Jr.), Mikesell (Jr.), Cunningham (Sr.)

Good luck with that. How much shall we wager? "

Why would I wager against myself? The only way I win is if your starting lineup is the one AG goes with next year and proves to be as I project a 500 ball club. Because this would mean that the other big men on the team are incapable of moving Trey from his starting position. What it indicates to me is that we will be just as weak up front next year as we were this year.

My hope is that Kostas or perhaps Toppin prove good enough to start and that the starting line up is Cunningham, Kostas, Mikesell, Davis and Crutcher with Trey coming in as the sixth man.

I am not sure what the point of bringing in Kyle Davis as a comparable. Why not just use Don May as the comparable. Both are about 6"4" and both play the forward spot and both hustled when they were in the game heck they were both local high school players. Or perhaps we just compare Trey to Trey and the skill set he brings to the floor.

And I am not saying Trey is not as good as Don May, perhaps he is the second coming. I would love it if he were. In my opinion I just have not seen it; what I have seen is a guy who would be an excellent sixth man. Just an opinion not a fact.
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"So you're saying you would take this lineup:
Crutcher (Fr.), Davis (Fr.), Davis (Sr.), Landers (So.), Cunningham (Jr.)

Over this lineup:
Crutcher (So.), Davis (So.), Landers (Jr.), Mikesell (Jr.), Cunningham (Sr.)

Good luck with that. How much shall we wager? "

Why would I wager against myself? The only way I win is if your starting lineup is the one AG goes with next year and proves to be as I project a 500 ball club. Because this would mean that the other big men on the team are incapable of moving Trey from his starting position. What it indicates to me is that we will be just as weak up front next year as we were this year.

My hope is that Kostas or perhaps Toppin prove good enough to start and that the starting line up is Cunningham, Kostas, Mikesell, Davis and Crutcher with Trey coming in as the sixth man.

I am not sure what the point of bringing in Kyle Davis as a comparable. Why not just use Don May as the comparable. Both are about 6"4" and both play the forward spot and both hustled when they were in the game heck they were both local high school players. Or perhaps we just compare Trey to Trey and the skill set he brings to the floor.

And I am not saying Trey is not as good as Don May, perhaps he is the second coming. I would love it if he were. In my opinion I just have not seen it; what I have seen is a guy who would be an excellent sixth man. Just an opinion not a fact.
I'm highly doubting with the year he had this year that Trey will not be a starter, even if he would be a valuable sixth man.
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With what Kostas showed at the end of the season ideally he would be starting after a full offseason. Who knows what Mikesell will look like in live action
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I'm highly doubting with the year he had this year that Trey will not be a starter, even if he would be a valuable sixth man.
Thank you. I mean he gave the most consistent effort of anyone on the team, improved immensely from the start of the season and was a vocal leader. If the “reward” for that is the presumption that you lose your starting spot to a guy who is returning form injury as an unknown, I think we might have a couple more transfers than we are projecting.

The beauty of all this is it matters not a bit what we think. These guys will actually lace up their shoes, play some basketball and their coaches will decide what players and combinations give the team the best chance at success. I realize it is the off-season and people need stuff to discuss but the fact that people are actually arguing over this is nuts to me.
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I think the front line rotation ( I think we may actually have a frontline rotation) next year will depend upon what Toppin has to offer. Without him I see Landers and Cunningham starting with Kostas coming in for Trey then Trey back in for Cunningham. Toppin could change that.
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"So you're saying you would take this lineup:
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Over this lineup:
Crutcher (So.), Davis (So.), Landers (Jr.), Mikesell (Jr.), Cunningham (Sr.)

Good luck with that. How much shall we wager? "

Why would I wager against myself? The only way I win is if your starting lineup is the one AG goes with next year and proves to be as I project a 500 ball club. Because this would mean that the other big men on the team are incapable of moving Trey from his starting position. What it indicates to me is that we will be just as weak up front next year as we were this year.

My hope is that Kostas or perhaps Toppin prove good enough to start and that the starting line up is Cunningham, Kostas, Mikesell, Davis and Crutcher with Trey coming in as the sixth man.

I am not sure what the point of bringing in Kyle Davis as a comparable. Why not just use Don May as the comparable. Both are about 6"4" and both play the forward spot and both hustled when they were in the game heck they were both local high school players. Or perhaps we just compare Trey to Trey and the skill set he brings to the floor.

And I am not saying Trey is not as good as Don May, perhaps he is the second coming. I would love it if he were. In my opinion I just have not seen it; what I have seen is a guy who would be an excellent sixth man. Just an opinion not a fact.
I think he was talking about this year's team, with Darrel Davis as the senior, unless there was sarcasm that I missed.
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Mikesell is not and never will be Jim Paxson, but he has a chance to be Damon Goodwin. I'll even take 75% of Damon...
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Once again some people are counting on the guy who didn't play at all last year (OT) and a guy who was wildly (and I mean wildly) inconsistent (KA) being the saviors.

It could happen. Maybe OT and KA are so much improved we just can't keep them off the court. But Trey proved everything there is to prove about being a starter for the second half of this year. I'll plan to go to battle with him.

Not because he's the #1 athletic specimen in the gym (though certainly not bad!!), but because you can't measure leadership and desire in a vertical leap or with a tape measure. Every team needs a level headed glue guy and a leader to bring together the specialized pieces.

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I don't understand all this stuff against Trey. Were you guys watching a different team than I did? This is remarkably simple, really. If you pull Trey off the team (or the floor) this past year, we were positively abysmal. Not only the stats, but the intangibles.

If I'm coaching this team, Trey plays. Period.
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Don't think anyone is against Trey. More lamenting that given his somewhat limited game, he's one of our best players, when on a quality team he would appear to be a sixth man type player. Sure he works hard, be he is not a great shooter, or penetrator, too slow for a guard and too small inside.
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Trey as a Sophomore led the troops and brought KA back from the dead, i.e. got him away from X, he was the floor general, not the point guards. So,

He's not athletic enough? Check
He would be a 6th man on a winning team. Check
Working hard is not enough. Check
Size sucks for either position. Check

Trey Landers is our most important player. Cohill or no Cohill, he's still our best player next year. Starting lineup may be different this year but it ain't gonna be because Trey isn't in there
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3rd in scoring. In the first 13 games he took double digit number of shots 0 times. In the last 16 games he took double digit shots 8 times.

2nd in steals, missed leading the team by 1 steal.

Shot 58% from the field, second only to Cunningham.

Started all 29 games.

Shot 35% from 3 including 48% over his last 13 games.

73% FT shooter, 3rd on the team in FT's shot.

Six-foot-five, and fulla muscle. (He said do'ya speaka my language?)

I could be wrong, and I'm not saying he's going to finish as one of the all-time greats in a Flyer uniform, but I'll just be really surprised if he's not a starter next year.
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Landers is a starter for a program like ours. For a Power 5 program, maybe he is a 6th man. During many many games this year, I found myself saying "Trey HAS to be out there" to my wife and friends. He simply impacts the game positively on both ends. I don't care if he starts or not, Landers will be out there a lot because of what he brings.

No, he doesn't have ideal size, but he did a pretty good job guarding taller players this past year.
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'Undersized' hasn't stopped Ohio State from having a pretty good season.

Style of play matters. Trey will be fine as long as UD doesn't go to a BG type offense. The faster, the better for My Flyers. What we need now is depth, which will allow us to run/move/cut for 40 minutes, not 25.
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Rollo, I would look forward to 25 minutes of hustle right now. Anyone see Buffalo last night? Holy crap. 5 Tasmanian devils out there. We have one.
Back on topic now. Can anyone out there in the field of medicine explain to me how you can have TWO hip replacements and still be a top performing athlete? I like Ryan's play, I want to believe he can play and hustle, jump, dive, and go like crazy for 40 minutes a night if needed. But I do not understand how that is possible with the hips of a 60 year old. I thought his career was over when it was decided he need hip replacement surgery. I seriously don't get it. Is it just a means to get an education that he is sticking it out?
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Rollo, I would look forward to 25 minutes of hustle right now. Anyone see Buffalo last night? Holy crap. 5 Tasmanian devils out there. We have one.
Back on topic now. Can anyone out there in the field of medicine explain to me how you can have TWO hip replacements and still be a top performing athlete? I like Ryan's play, I want to believe he can play and hustle, jump, dive, and go like crazy for 40 minutes a night if needed. But I do not understand how that is possible with the hips of a 60 year old. I thought his career was over when it was decided he need hip replacement surgery. I seriously don't get it. Is it just a means to get an education that he is sticking it out?
He didn't have hip replacements. They fixed an inpingement.
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Back on topic now. Can anyone out there in the field of medicine explain to me how you can have TWO hip replacements and still be a top performing athlete? I like Ryan's play, I want to believe he can play and hustle, jump, dive, and go like crazy for 40 minutes a night if needed. But I do not understand how that is possible with the hips of a 60 year old. I thought his career was over when it was decided he need hip replacement surgery. I seriously don't get it. Is it just a means to get an education that he is sticking it out?
Just to clarify, Mikesell did not have hip replacement surgery, he had hip impingement surgery. I can't help you past that. Sounds like this may have been an issue for a while. With the pain removed, mobility increased, and his mind freed up thinking about it, I'm hoping Mikesell 2.0 will be a major piece of the puzzle in 18'-19'.
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Just to clarify, Mikesell did not have hip replacement surgery, he had hip impingement surgery. I can't help you past that. Sounds like this may have been an issue for a while. With the pain removed, mobility increased, and his mind freed up thinking about it, I'm hoping Mikesell 2.0 will be a major piece of the puzzle in 18'-19'.
This diagnosis is becoming more and more common in youth athletes mostly because it was a previously overlooked problem. Athletes typically make full recoveries after surgery with no long term restrictions. Mikesell should be moving free and easy by now.
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Found this statement by Neil Sullivan on Ryan Mikesell 2.0 - appears that Ryan uses the name Steve . . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7zNY0I5JNI

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This diagnosis is becoming more and more common in youth athletes mostly because it was a previously overlooked problem. Athletes typically make full recoveries after surgery with no long term restrictions. Mikesell should be moving free and easy by now.
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Not saying completely comparable, but it really took Devin Mesoraco 2 years to recover. He had some additional issues beyond just the impingement, but after being out for a year, it can lead to other injuries as the body has lost so much of it's previous ability to handle certain athletic stresses. I hope that's not the case with RM.
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Just to clarify, Mikesell did not have hip replacement surgery, he had hip impingement surgery. I can't help you past that. Sounds like this may have been an issue for a while. With the pain removed, mobility increased, and his mind freed up thinking about it, I'm hoping Mikesell 2.0 will be a major piece of the puzzle in 18'-19'.
Maybe he will be like Johnny Davis after he got a pair of contacts.
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Not saying completely comparable, but it really took Devin Mesoraco 2 years to recover. He had some additional issues beyond just the impingement, but after being out for a year, it can lead to other injuries as the body has lost so much of it's previous ability to handle certain athletic stresses. I hope that's not the case with RM.
Mesoraco came back after 10 months, and Mikesell will be about 18 months. Mesoraco played in 16 games, then tore his labrum. Not sure there is any relation to the other injury, nor have I seen that speculated. So my glass is mostly full, and Mikesell will be 100%.
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is Ryan related to Daniel Mikesell, founder of Mikesell's potato chips?
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'Undersized' hasn't stopped Ohio State from having a pretty good season.

Style of play matters. Trey will be fine as long as UD doesn't go to a BG type offense. The faster, the better for My Flyers. What we need now is depth, which will allow us to run/move/cut for 40 minutes, not 25.
Agreed. Scheme and skill beat size every time.
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I could be wrong, and I'm not saying he's going to finish as one of the all-time greats in a Flyer uniform, but I'll just be really surprised if he's not a starter next year.
For all the people who were sure Trey would definitely not start this year.

He's started all 13 games so far. 2nd in minutes played, second in FT's, 4th in scoring, and 1st in rebounds.I don't think having Kostas on the team would have changed a lot for him since Mikesell has started at PF and that's where Kostas would have been.

By how much is he first in rebounds? He's got 104, the next guy on the list has 67. That's 55% more than the next closest guy. That's officially "a lot" more rebounds. I don't think Kostas would have snatched that many rebounds from him.

Is he just the prettiest girl in the ugly contest? Well we've been outrebounded 4 times in 13 games.
-Once by 1 (Presbyterian - Trey 1st in rebounding)
-Once by 2 (Oklahoma - Trey 1st in rebounding)
-Once by 3 (Virginia - Trey 2nd in rebounding)
-Once by 10 (Mississippi State - Trey 1st in rebounding but did not have a great game)

So it's not like we're getting trounced on the boards. And it's not like he only rebounds against the bad teams.

Toppin definitely has more upside but there are reasons Trey is still starting. Unfortunately he's completely lost confidence in his shot (20% from 3 after shooting 35% last year), but I really have to disagree that Trey is slow, or too small to rebound, or that he can't penetrate.

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One thing I have liked about Trey's game is he can "finish" around the bucket despite his relative lack of size. Also, he pours his guts out every time he laces up his shoes. He is a true Flyer.
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