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Old 02-05-2019, 11:39 PM
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Are we better offensively without Josh on the floor?
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CT Flyer View Post
Are we better offensively without Josh on the floor?
Josh struggles against big, athletic centers and power forwards. He could not get his shot off tonight. There were three times he had point-blank shots and he didn't even know he was open.
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He struggles because our offense is so simple to guard. He’s most often put in position where he has to make a play 1 on 1 or 1 on 2. If we had a more dynamic offense he could actually have and advantage to the hoop when he gets the ball. Our offense does nothing to help him score and we rely solely on his individual ability. Too often you see 3 or 4 gusts standing on the perimeter while he’s standing on the block. No motion, no off ball screens. Just a lack of creativity and effort resulting in too much one on one play and poor shot selections for everyone
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He struggles because our offense is so simple to guard. He’s most often put in position where he has to make a play 1 on 1 or 1 on 2. If we had a more dynamic offense he could actually have and advantage to the hoop when he gets the ball. Our offense does nothing to help him score and we rely solely on his individual ability. Too often you see 3 or 4 gusts standing on the perimeter while he’s standing on the block. No motion, no off ball screens. Just a lack of creativity and effort resulting in too much one on one play and poor shot selections for everyone
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Agree. Decent perimeter shooting would open up chances for our bigs.
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:22 AM
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There were three times he had point-blank shots and he didn't even know he was open.
It seemed that earlier in the year he would go straight up. Tonight he was thinking first which gave their D time to react.
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Seems he’s a bit slower in his reactions lately. Been traveling a bit, free throw shooting regressed. May be some fatigue or minor injuries. Also doesn’t help that opponents sag off Landers so much that they are able to double team Josh.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:07 AM
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He looked like a broken down old man last night. It was a bit shocking to see.
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Originally Posted by maddog07 View Post
Seems he’s a bit slower in his reactions lately. Been traveling a bit, free throw shooting regressed. May be some fatigue or minor injuries. Also doesn’t help that opponents sag off Landers so much that they are able to double team Josh.
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I think Josh has looked a step slow for the last couple weeks. That allows teams to react and defend him better in the post. I commented to my wife last week that watching Josh and Obi on the court at the same time was like watching Kevin Garnett and Robert Parrish play together.
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Josh's Legs

do not look good. He seems to be slower and immobile. His post defense is non-existent and he is just not the same player he was earlier. The schedule is much tougher and his performance has deteriorated.
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:57 AM
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Charmin - he is soft, soft with the ball & soft inside... flopping all over the floor.. he spends more time on his ass than anyone... C'MON MAN!

His job is to play against big, athletic centers and power forwards. MAN UP!
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He looked like a broken down old man last night. It was a bit shocking to see.
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do not look good. He seems to be slower and immobile. His post defense is non-existent and he is just not the same player he was earlier. The schedule is much tougher and his performance has deteriorated.
I said the same thing about him 5 or 6 games back so this is nothing new. Hopefully whatever is slowing him down heals quickly. I hope it is not between his ears. We need old Josh back ASAP
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:19 AM
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Not just Josh, whole team was timid

This thread may be right about his wearing down. But let's don't look for one player's deficiency. Overall we just got punked on defense and rebounding. Dug ourselves a double digit hole and could not even get close to digging ourselves out of it. This was SLU basketball
perpetuated by the last 3 SLU coaches. We should have been ready for it and we were not.

In the first 5 minutes we were down double digits and playing timid. The stage was set.

Hopefully on February 23 in our house we will be ready to play.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:28 AM
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Josh seems to want to put the ball down and move around for position. That worked earlier against lesser opponents, but bigger and faster guys that now collapse down on him, it’s too late to pass, or get his shot up. He needs to get up with shot faster and at least get those players to foul him.
When he gets the shot up fast, he does well and often gets the and one. If he dribbles around, he struggles. I call it the Chip Hare disease.
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Josh at times seems to drag one of his legs. He has something physical going on, and it is slowing him physically and between the ears.

Josh never has been a center. He is a power forward with no outside shot. Disappointing that his outside shot did not improve from last year, and in fact is worse. That makes him a one trick pony on the blocks, which is successful against undersized teams, but not teams with big athletic centers.

I hope Grant and Obi are taking note, because for next year Obi needs to be comfortable and make some outside shots, or he will struggle like he did last night going 2 for 6. Great thing about Obi is when you foul him, he makes the free throws, and teams will take note. When you foul Josh, he makes only one of two, and teams have taken note.
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I think we run more efficiently offensively when he is not in the game. But he obviously needs to be in the game so I think we need to stop force feeding him in the post because that is not his strength. Everything gets very bogged down when he catches the ball in the post. He is much more effective when he patrols the baseline and someone drives and draws. I like Josh and am thankful for what he has done for the Flyers in his career but I'm sorry he is not a first team A10 player like the preseason picks had him, not by a long shot.
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Are we better offensively without Josh on the floor?
No, we are not better off without our leading scorer who is still shooting over 60%.

He's in a slump for sure, but he still went for 12 and 7 last night. He was our leading scorer.

As a team it was a poor showing for sure. But let's not pretend we are better without JC on the floor.
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No, we are not better off without our leading scorer who is still shooting over 60%.

He's in a slump for sure, but he still went for 12 and 7 last night. He was our leading scorer.

As a team it was a poor showing for sure. But let's not pretend we are better without JC on the floor.
Well, we certainly were in the Duquesne game. I just think Josh has hit the proverbial “wall”. He’s a half step slower than he was over the first 15 games.
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Well, we certainly were in the Duquesne game. I just think Josh has hit the proverbial “wall”. He’s a half step slower than he was over the first 15 games.
Everybody has bad games - Josh had two in a row. Any time someone has a bad game it's easy to look back and say "we were better off without him".

LeBron once went 2/18 from the field with 10 turnovers in a playoff game. They were probably better off without him that game, but nobody would have entertained the idea that the team was better without him going forward.

Josh was still our leading scorer and rebounder last night in what was a bad game all around. To pin the blame on him and suggest we are better without him seems a little far fetched.

Is he hurt? Maybe. But we are not better without him.
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St. Louis has good big guys. I thought Josh looked off but French and Foreman were giving Obi and him some problems
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This isn't something new, but rather something that is much more noticeable later in the season.

Josh is a fantastic player, but I think this season has gotten to him. He doesn't have that explosive step like he did early on, he is much more below the rim that before, and he doesn't leg anything out. As others have mentioned, he is moving like my broken ass in open gym.

This isn't a Josh problem, this is a minute problem. Josh has been expected, for years now, to play undersized (with injury) in the paint. I think you are seeing a durable guy finally get worn down to the point there isn't enough time to recover between games. I hate to see it, but he is the guy that could benefit from fewer minutes. It wasn't as bad in out of conference play because he was the man and had his way with inferior opponents. Now he is getting the brunt of the attention from opposing defenses.

No...we are not better with him off the court. But he definitely isn't at 100% or his new 100% isn't what it used to be.
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When healthy, Josh is our best player...that's my opinion. Is he healthy? I'm not sure. But I hope so because he's only 151 points away from becoming a 1,000 point scored as a Flyer.

Yeah, I know he's already put up more than 1,000 in his college career, but to me it's more important for his true UD legacy to score the magic number while in a Dayton uniform.

As of today he's scored 849 pts as a Flyer. With 8 games + 1 A10 Tournament game guaranteed, and no post season being considered, he's going to need to average 16.8 ppg the rest of the way. He's capable of it but is he healthy enough? That's the royal question. Hopefully we advance 2 or 3 games in the A10T and somehow get an NIT bid to extend his career just long enough to hit the 1,000 threshold. Hopefully...

For those who are curious, here are a couple close but no cigar Flyers...

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James Paxson 956 pts
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Let’s add to the mix, scouting and double teaming. A10 teams have lots of time and video to develop plans to stop their opponents best player.

We think nothing of it when UD negated Charlie Brown, but are perplexed when teams focus on Josh and try to keep him in check.
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Yeah, I know he's already put up more than 1,000 in his college career, but to me it's more important for his true UD legacy to score the magic number while in a Dayton uniform.
This times 1 million. Ever since Kevin Dillard did this accomplishment, the media guide broke out those players that reached 1,000 in their career into another category. Therefore, Dave Colbert is now in that category as he scored a total of 1,757 points in his playing career, but only 2 years of that was in a UD uniform. The travesty, IMO, is that Colbert scored 1,049 points in a UD uniform and is no longer in the regular section of 1,000 Point Club, but "relegated" to the, "Their entire career made it to 1,000."

Now Jordan Sibert is also in this relegated territory, even though he scored 1,030 in his UD career. But, isn't listed in that section.

Yes, I do know that they are all listed appropriately in the all time scoring section, but if we are having a 1,000 Point Club, it should be 1,000 pts in a UD uniform.

I opine that a good friend of Kevin Dillard was working in the athletic department at the time and thought it was a good idea to have a lasting picture of his in there.
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Hmmmmm.

With respect to the Media Guide, I wonder how UD would treat a 1,000 pt combined school scorer if his first 2 years he played at UD and last 2 years somewhere else...

Figgie...I mean SIR Figgie...has this ever happened?? Cain Doliboa got close but I can't think of anyone else who exploded onto the scoring columns after leaving UD.
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Hmmmmm.

With respect to the Media Guide, I wonder how UD would treat a 1,000 pt combined school scorer if his first 2 years he played at UD and last 2 years somewhere else...

Figgie...I mean SIR Figgie...has this ever happened?? Cain Doliboa got close but I can't think of anyone else who exploded onto the scoring columns after leaving UD.
Trent Meacham - 1,051 career points........first 185 at UD.
Juwan Staten did as well

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Trent Meacham - 1,051 career points........first 185 at UD.
Juwan Staten did as well
Those are two names that hurt the basketball program big time.
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Those are two names that hurt the basketball program big time.
Staten was a train wreck of a selfish nightmare, mostly due to his dad.

Trent was a different story. Hometown Champaign, IL boy who got an opportunity to come home and play for the program he probably dreamed about playing for since the first time he could pick up a basketball.

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Staten was a train wreck of a selfish nightmare, mostly due to his dad.

Trent was a different story. Hometown Champagne, IL boy who got an opportunity to come home and play for the program he probably dreamed about playing for since the first time he could pick up a basketball.
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There is nothing wrong with Josh Cunningham except he's not the alpha dog on this team anymore to an extent. Think of it this way in that Josh is a senior and coming into the season was obviously their best player. He read all the headlines about being a first team in A10 and possibly player of the year. All of a sudden you got a young 19 year old kid who didn't even play last year coming on the scene quickly and getting all the attention, making all the flash and wow plays and becoming their go-to guy.

These guys are still young men trying to make sense of things, rationalize adversity and this hit Josh pretty quickly. I would imagine the coaching staff has discussed things with him and told him he is still a vital cog for their success. Josh needs to understand this and more importantly he needs to digest this and take it to heart. He is still a top one or two option on this team and they will need him to play much closer to the old Josh if they are going to succeed.
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DDN: Dayton senior on recent struggles: ‘I’m over it now’

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All of a sudden you got a young 19 year old kid who didn't even play last year coming on the scene quickly and getting all the attention, making all the flash and wow plays and becoming their go-to guy.
Let's be accurate here. Obi is going to turn 21 in less than a month. I think that is the biggest piece of the puzzle for if he will be here all 4 years. Will he still be at UD, taking classes, and working on graduating college at 24? Or will he have the opportunity making a living playing basketball somewhere by then? I graduated UD 2 months after I turned 22 years old.
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I can only remember, and I'll watch on DVR again, one time where we force fed Josh in the post yesterday. I think this helped the offense stay more free flowing and not bogged down. I also think this helps Josh too because he doesn't have this pressure that he needs to make something happen every time we give it to him in the post.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER View Post
Trent Meacham - 1,051 career points........first 185 at UD.
Juwan Staten did as well
I checked out both Illinois and West Virginia's media guides and no mention of UD, or their careers away from their respective schools. The only good reference I found for Meachem was academic Big 10. For Staten, they talked him being one of a few players with certain stats in the last so many years, and they didn't add in his UD stats whatsoever.
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The factor that does not show up in box scores in A10 play is scouting. In the old days, teams sent scouts to opponents games in person and take notes. No more. Go to the Final Four convention and you will see vendors who sell very sophisticated scouting software that breaks down individual and team tendencies. Opposing coaches can pull up every shot Josh has taken this season in sequence on a laptop without every sending a scout to a game. Assistant coaches spend a great deal of time using video like that.

Anthony does something interesting. He uses that software on UD players to see if they have tendencies or tip off opponents. His game plans include how opponents plan to counter UD. Big chess match. If you attend a practice, you see that Anthony is very shrewd.

With this team, an opposing coach must pick their poison between Josh and Obi. Lately, they have focused on Josh. Now more attention will be on Obi. In my mind, that means that Ryan and Jordan HAVE to hit 3s. If they do, opponents defense is screwed. If they miss, opponents pack it against Josh and Obi.

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I think part of the problem for Josh was that other teams were keying in on him including double teaming. Now that Toppin is coming on strong and others are improving, opponents will have the luxury of keying in heavily on Josh without getting hurt by rest of team.

I look for Josh to use his veteran presence and to come back strong during the rest of year.
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Meant "will not have the luxury...."
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Watched the game on DVR again and we threw the ball to Josh in the post twice. Once they ran a late double at him and he tried to go baseline and didnt score. The other time they did not double and he went in the lane and scored on a baby jump hook. Again not force feeding it to him in the post seemed to help the offense flow and helped Josh be more effective. Hopefully this is an adjustment that will help us the rest of the season.
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I can only remember, and I'll watch on DVR again, one time where we force fed Josh in the post yesterday. I think this helped the offense stay more free flowing and not bogged down. I also think this helps Josh too because he doesn't have this pressure that he needs to make something happen every time we give it to him in the post.
Josh needs to touch the ball every possession.
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Josh needs to touch the ball every possession.
Not necessarliy in the post though.
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Are we better offensively without Josh on the floor?
I'm sticking with, "No."
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The last 8 minutes of the Davidson game was a great example of what happens when we don’t work inside out.

Sure Josh has limits. It doesn’t help when our guards limit him.
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Are we better offensively without Josh on the floor?
It all depends on who he has to go against. Opponents who are 6-8 or more, athletic, and able to jump can shut him down. He can do pretty well against opponents who are 6-8, not especially athletic and of limited jumping ability. Unfortunately, we see more of the former than the latter.
In his defense, our offense (and defense for that matter) is limited by a few other factors besides josh's limitations.
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Josh needs to give the team a full 35ish minutes. After the 16:39 mark, he scored 3 points. It's no coincidence that the offense went flat when Cumningham was in foul trouble and not productive.
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I kept track of traditional feeds to Josh in the post and it was a mixed bag last night.

In the first half they went to him in the post four times:
1. He traveled in the midst of a double
2. He made a quick move to the middle of the floor before the double came for a score
3. He threw the ball away for a turnover in the midst of a double
4. He was fouled on the entry pass
In the second half they went to him in the post once:
1. He found Davis for an open three across court quickly before the double got to him.

He was better in these situations last night but he was much better when he received the ball on the baseline/short corner. It's obvious though that they are working with him on making quicker decisions when he does post up. I think they are also not as hyper focused on getting him the ball in the post as they were for a stretch this season.

I'm in no way saying I don't want Josh on the floor I just don't think we are very efficient when we force feed him in the post.
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Cool A little constructive criticism is ok, but...

I would like to point out that Josh took 16 shots and made 15 last night, and the last one won the game. What more do people want?
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I would like to point out that Josh took 16 shots and made 15 last night, and the last one won the game. What more do people want?
More baseline touches/less post touches...
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I kept track of traditional feeds to Josh in the post and it was a mixed bag last night.

In the first half they went to him in the post four times:
1. He traveled in the midst of a double
2. He made a quick move to the middle of the floor before the double came for a score
3. He threw the ball away for a turnover in the midst of a double
4. He was fouled on the entry pass
In the second half they went to him in the post once:
1. He found Davis for an open three across court quickly before the double got to him.

He was better in these situations last night but he was much better when he received the ball on the baseline/short corner. It's obvious though that they are working with him on making quicker decisions when he does post up. I think they are also not as hyper focused on getting him the ball in the post as they were for a stretch this season.

I'm in no way saying I don't want Josh on the floor I just don't think we are very efficient when we force feed him in the post.
You are correct. He's obviously a better back-to-the-basket player but not in traditional post up fashion...They need him on the baseline/short corner so he can receive the ball and maneuver 2-3 quick dribbles as well as screen and rolls down the lane....When he gets the ball in the post and just spins into the defender bad things happen..
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In the second half they went to him in the post once:
1. He found Davis for an open three across court quickly before the double got to him.
I was 100% certain I saw this and that Davis hit the three, yet the box score doesn't credit Cunningham with an assist. Did Davis miss this kick out? I know he made 4 in the game and only missed three.
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I was 100% certain I saw this and that Davis hit the three, yet the box score doesn't credit Cunningham with an assist. Did Davis miss this kick out? I know he made 4 in the game and only missed three.
I thought he made it too but maybe he missed that one because I don't see an assist for Josh either. I thought it was the one right at the beginning of the second half but they credit Crutcher with the assist on that one.
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When healthy, Josh is our best player...that's my opinion. Is he healthy? I'm not sure. But I hope so because he's only 151 points away from becoming a 1,000 point scored as a Flyer.

Yeah, I know he's already put up more than 1,000 in his college career, but to me it's more important for his true UD legacy to score the magic number while in a Dayton uniform.

As of today he's scored 849 pts as a Flyer. With 8 games + 1 A10 Tournament game guaranteed, and no post season being considered, he's going to need to average 16.8 ppg the rest of the way. He's capable of it but is he healthy enough? That's the royal question. Hopefully we advance 2 or 3 games in the A10T and somehow get an NIT bid to extend his career just long enough to hit the 1,000 threshold. Hopefully...

For those who are curious, here are a couple close but no cigar Flyers...

Charles Little 996 pts
Andy Meyer 988 pts
Kevin Conrad 983 pts
Charles Cooke 957 pts

a couple legends that didn't...

James Paxson 956 pts
Bucky Bockhorn 941 pts

and a few who barely got there...

Sean Finn 1003
Darrell Davis 1008
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Entering Senior Day Josh has 928 points as a Flyer.

With 72 pts needed to reach the golden 1,000 threshold and 3-4 games left in his career, he's going to need to play a lot and effectively to get there.

Of course, if Josh can average 18 ppg, we/he might have more than 4 games left...time will tell.
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Can’t afford any more 5 point games!!!
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Josh had 260 points at Bradley, so he has already surpassed 1000 points for his career. Let's hope he gets 1000 in a Flyer uniform, but even if he doesn't he will have a spot in the media guide for "Transfers who have scored their 1000th collegiate point in a Dayton uniform" along with Jordan Sibert, Charles Cooke, Kevin Dillard, and Dave Colbert (although Sibert and Colbert both had over 1000 points as a Flyer).
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Your math is brilliant as far as not reaching 1000 points as a Flyer....
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I believe that Josh will have a solid game tonight.
LaSalle's 2 top rebounders are both 6'8" freshmen who each average less than 5pts per game. No reason that Josh shouldn't dominate them in the post.
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so far 5 points would be an upgrade.

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Your math is brilliant as far as not reaching 1000 points as a Flyer....
at the half he has 2!!!! The only senior, captain demand the **** ball Josh!
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Not a bad 2nd half! Glad he took maddogs advice.
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That, and his teammates were making a concerted effort to keep him in the game. I remember a 2nd Half play when Josh went left baseline, had no shot, kicked in to Cohill in the right corner, and Cohill curled into the lane just far enough to draw Josh’s defender, which allowed Dwayne to feed Josh for the deuce. Great sharing of the ball, and great unselfishness by Dwayne to give up his own shot so that Josh could take the better shot.
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I'll say this. I know we've been critical of some of Josh's play at times this year, and maybe overly so at times. But he sure seems to have represented the University with dignity and class, hard work, etc. He fought through injury and surgery, coaching changes, major roster turnover, death of a teammate, and seems like a class act. I'm glad he was and always will be a Dayton Flyer!.
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946 pts...
I'd like to see him get that 1000 in a UD uniform.

Pie in the sky - it would be in an NCAA Tournament game or in the A10 finals.

Consolation prize - do it at UD Arena in a First Four game or an NIT game vs _avier.
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After all was done Josh headed to the tunnel and took his shoes off and gave them to 2 kids that said hi to him on his way in. Those kids were ecstatic - pretty cool and classy !!
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After all was done Josh headed to the tunnel and took his shoes off and gave them to 2 kids that said hi to him on his way in. Those kids were ecstatic - pretty cool and classy !!
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On those shoes Josh wrote the inscription:

"This is your night Big Fella" and "LOVE 5" (see Daytonmbb Instagram)

I really think Josh was playing last night with a heavy heart and can be excused for the poor start.

I don't know what was on the tshirts given out to the Red Scare. In years past it had the jersey numbers of the graduating seniors. If that was the case, I thought last night it should have included #5.

Josh, #0, one classy Flyer.
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Here is the Instagram link https://www.instagram.com/p/BuuKNUhA..._web_copy_link
The students received a jersey style t shirt with caricatures of Josh and Jack in uniform. I forget what it said, "Thank You Seniors", I think.
Josh' tribute was perfect and powerful.
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After all was done Josh headed to the tunnel and took his shoes off and gave them to 2 kids that said hi to him on his way in. Those kids were ecstatic - pretty cool and classy !!
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The guy was a solid player, and a team leader. 3x team captain and represented the university well. Had to fight through injury and bridge a great four year run, with a new coaching staff and complete turnover.

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Long shot. Would need a couple of massive games in the NIT or we'd need to win at least 2 in the NIT.
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