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Let's hope that the pathetic Media lap dog coverage of BHO ceases as he exists stage LEFT (pun intended) and some semblance of reality seeps into their fevered brains.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/...r-barack-obama
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Their most valuable instrument is the U.S. media, much of which reflexively reveres, serves, believes, and sides with hidden intelligence officials. And Democrats, still reeling from their unexpected and traumatic election loss as well as a systemic collapse of their party, seemingly divorced further and further from reason with each passing day, are willing — eager — to embrace any claim, cheer any tactic, align with any villain, regardless of how unsupported, tawdry and damaging those behaviors might be.

The serious dangers posed by a Trump presidency are numerous and manifest. There are a wide array of legitimate and effective tactics for combatting those threats: from bipartisan congressional coalitions and constitutional legal challenges to citizen uprisings and sustained and aggressive civil disobedience. All of those strategies have periodically proven themselves effective in times of political crisis or authoritarian overreach.

But cheering for the CIA and its shadowy allies to unilaterally subvert the U.S. election and impose its own policy dictates on the elected president is both warped and self-destructive. Empowering the very entities that have produced the most shameful atrocities and systemic deceit over the last six decades is desperation of the worst kind. Demanding that evidence-free, anonymous assertions be instantly venerated as Truth — despite emanating from the very precincts designed to propagandize and lie — is an assault on journalism, democracy, and basic human rationality. And casually branding domestic adversaries who refuse to go along as traitors and disloyal foreign operatives is morally bankrupt and certain to backfire on those doing it.

Beyond all that, there is no bigger favor that Trump opponents can do for him than attacking him with such lowly, shabby, obvious shams, recruiting large media outlets to lead the way. When it comes time to expose actual Trump corruption and criminality, who is going to believe the people and institutions who have demonstrated they are willing to endorse any assertions no matter how factually baseless, who deploy any journalistic tactic no matter how unreliable and removed from basic means of ensuring accuracy?

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/11/...as-dems-cheer/
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Obama the Nobel Peace Prize President

Obama the Nobel Peace prize winner - interesting that he appears to be the first two term president that had a war going every year of his presidency.
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Obama the Nobel Peace prize winner - interesting that he appears to be the first two term president that had a war going every year of his presidency.

Not just every year, every single day of his tenure.
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http://www.manilatimes.net/obama-scr...ts-say/306712/

And Trump's predecessor gives the middle finger to Cubans.

"Obama has screwed all Cubans,” Yadiel Cruz, a Cuban in Panama bitterly told Agence France-Presse on Thursday upon learning the US president has suddenly made it tougher for migrants like him to get into America.
The 33-year-old summed up what many compatriots were feeling as they digested the news in a Catholic shelter in Panama’s capital, a waypoint on their overland trek to the United States.


But, he declared, “for me, I’m not going back.”
Around him, dozens of other Cubans expressed sadness or anger.
Much of the fury was directed personally at US President Barack Obama for announcing that he has scrapped, with immediate effect, a 1995 policy that had given near-automatic entry to the US to Cubans who set foot on American soil, regardless of their visa status.
Now, like those who attempted to cross by water, they could face deportation back to Cuba unless they convince US officials they were afraid of being persecuted or had valid humanitarian reasons to be let in."

I wonder what type of restrictions Trump's predecessor will give to the Middle Easterners on his way out the door. <rhetorical>
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I feel like I felt when I was a kid anxiously waiting for Christmas Day to arrive with all the presents.

I can't wait, Trump as POTUS is gonna be great. Very excited.

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http://www.manilatimes.net/obama-scr...ts-say/306712/

And Trump's predecessor gives the middle finger to Cubans.

"Obama has screwed all Cubans,” Yadiel Cruz, a Cuban in Panama bitterly told Agence France-Presse on Thursday upon learning the US president has suddenly made it tougher for migrants like him to get into America.
The 33-year-old summed up what many compatriots were feeling as they digested the news in a Catholic shelter in Panama’s capital, a waypoint on their overland trek to the United States.


But, he declared, “for me, I’m not going back.”
Around him, dozens of other Cubans expressed sadness or anger.
Much of the fury was directed personally at US President Barack Obama for announcing that he has scrapped, with immediate effect, a 1995 policy that had given near-automatic entry to the US to Cubans who set foot on American soil, regardless of their visa status.
Now, like those who attempted to cross by water, they could face deportation back to Cuba unless they convince US officials they were afraid of being persecuted or had valid humanitarian reasons to be let in."

I wonder what type of restrictions Trump's predecessor will give to the Middle Easterners on his way out the door. <rhetorical>
Can't Trump just undo this on Day 1?
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Here is some analysis on the Cuban situation...it puts Trump in an uncomfortable position...Trump does not have a way out, either of the 2 options have negative aspects to them.

Obama may have done this on purpose to try to trap Trump.



http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/1...r-some-reason/:



The political rationale, I assume, is to box Trump in. Ending “wet foot, dry foot” puts him in an awkward position, after all. If he doesn’t reverse Obama’s new policy, he risks irritating the Cuban-Americans who helped hand him last year’s shocking upset in Florida. If he does reverse the policy, he’ll be reinstating special residency privileges for Cubans who are here illegally — not a comfortable position for a border hawk with a populist-nationalist base to take. And if he tries to defend his decision by classifying Cubans as refugees rather than as illegal immigrants, that’ll open him up to questions of why he’d tolerate accepting refugees from Cuba as a matter of course but won’t accept ones from Syria even when they’ve been closely vetted by government agencies.

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ud2, not to pick that nit, but...how are any current Cuban refugees in the US today "illegal" given the "wet foot/dry foot" exemptions that have been in place for years? Given US policy regarding Cubans, none of them should be illegal at this time. As far as the Mideast is concerned...who has claimed that these "refugeees" have been "vetted"? One of the big problems with them is that they haven't been properly and thoroughly vetted and over 98% are Muslim...not the persecuted Christians, Jews, Yasidies, Bahais and other religious minorities. Plus, there are numerous other Muslim countries in the "neighborhood" that would be more culturally aligned with the Muslim refugees that are on the move. If the BHO Administration did this to box in DJT, I think they may have been a little too cute by far.* IMHO, it can be undone in a heartbeat and perhaps should be.

*BHO has already jeopardized the solidity of the Jewish vote for Democrats with his UN Security Council abstention and Kerry's diatribe blaming Israel for the on going conflict with the Palistinians. Now, he's gone out of his way to tick-off the Cuban American vote in what may turn out to be a futile, misguided effort to "box in" DJT's immigration policy. If this all blows up in his and the Democrats face, his admirers may have to rethink his "Smartest Man" in the world moniker.

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House Passes Bill to Set Up Defunding Planned Parenthood, Not One Single Democrat Votes for It

House Passes Bill to Set Up Defunding Planned Parenthood, Not One Single Democrat Votes for It.

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How much the taxpayers will save as of 1/1/17?

How much the taxpayers will save as of 1/1/17.....

Note: In 2009, FactCheck noted that the salaries of those working for Michele Obama was over 9 million, so what follows is probably true, as reported by a Canadian newspaper.

How much the taxpayers will save or, Are you afraid of the truth?

The taxpayers will save a lot of money once the spendthrift family leave the peoples's white house.
Since 2001, the president has earned a $400,000 annual salary, along with a $50,000 annual expense account, a $100,000 nontaxable travel account, and $19,000 for entertainment. The most recent raise in salary was approved by Congress and President Bill Clinton in 1999 and went into effect in 2001. FYI by law Trump has to take a salary as president. He will take $1.00 (one dollar).


Obama wanted a raise of his pension. He will get $400,000 per year for life as his pension and wanted a huge raise - don't know how much more he wanted. I don't think he got it. He promises that he will be a thorn in the side of Trump even more so after January 20.


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Copyright Canada Free Press. The American Press seems to still be in the pocket of OBama or afraid of the Billary Mafia and will not print facts about them.

Total Personal Staff members for US First ladies: Mamie Eisenhower: One - paid for personally, out of President's salary.

Total number of Personal Staff Members paid by Tax Payers:

Jackie Kennedy: One
Lady Bird Johnson: One
Pat Nixon: One
Betty Ford: One
Rosaline Carter: One
Barbara Bush: One
Hilary Clinton: Seven
Laura Bush: One
Michele Obama: Twenty-two!!!!!

Yep….your eyes don’t deceive you. You want to read WASTE? ....Scroll on down.

Michele Obama's personal staff: Take a closer look:

One.. $192,200 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
Two.. $160,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects)
Three.. $133,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary)
Four.. $122,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Director of Communications)
Five.. $120,000 - Winter, Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
Six.. $110,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
Seven.. $104,000 - Lilyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary)
Eight.. $ 95,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance)
Nine.. $ 90,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects)
Ten.. $ 85,000 - Burnough, Erinn (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Eleven.. $ 84,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Twelve.. $ 82,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator)
Thirteen.. $ 80,000 - Fitz, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director)
Fourteen.. $ 77,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide)
Fifteen.. $ 72,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary)
Sixteen.. $ 70,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide)
Seventeen.. $ 65,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence)
Eighteen.. $ 63,000 - Tubman, Samantha A. (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
Nineteen.. $ 60,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff)
Twenty.. $ 56,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
Twenty-One.. $ 55,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
Twenty-Two.. $ 55,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence)
That’s a Total...$2,075,200 in annual salaries - all for someone we did not vote for and apparently have no control over. 5 staff are Muslim and 13 African-American.

There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life. This does not include:

"Makeup artist" Ingrid Grimes-Miles, Full time,

"First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, Full time,

Both of whom traveled aboard Air Force One on ALL Trips (which were more like an invasion force than mere chief of state visits).
As of 11/15/2015 the Obama Family has spent over $1,300,000,000 (one billion, three hundred million dollars) on personal family trips. They were personal, not political or Government related.

How things have changed! If you're one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at WalMart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of
"Ms. Michelle" are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by YOU.

Copyright Canada Free Press not American Left Press

Yes…… The Canadian Free Press had to publish this, perhaps because America no longer has a free press and the USA media is afraid that they might be considered racist.
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Good lord, I hope Frederick doesn't get ahold of these salaries!
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Fareed Zakaria. I watched his propaganda video about "Obama's legacy" yesterday. It was straight out of Liberal dreamland. Awful.
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Obama is essentially saying that Limbaugh and Hannity should not criticize him because he knows what is best for our country. This is the mentality of a totalitarian.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...residency.html
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Funny how many of the same people who say "get over it Trump won"
After 8 years still haven't gotten over Obama winning LOL
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Funny how many of the same people who say "get over it Trump won"
After 8 years still haven't gotten over Obama winning LOL
I got over Obama's election the day after the election, as did most conservatives because we had to get up and go to work the next day.


However, elections have consequences (I believe I heard that about 8 years ago). The democrats wanting to be included are the same ones 8 years ago the rammed Obamacare down our throats and pretty much shut down any opposing discourse. I remember hearing "I won" as well. I can't wait for them to get a taste of their own medicine.
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Obama's Last Medlings

As one of his final acts as outgoing president, Barack Obama commuted*the sentence being served by Chelsea Manning, a transgender soldier who is more than six years into a 35-year sentence for leaking classified government and military documents to the WikiLeaks website.

Brennan has no comment. Ryan says it is a disgrace.

Kind of contradicts Obama's concerns with WikiLeaks. Kind of bizarre - Obama's social transgender sympathy at work.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chelsea-...entence-freed/

Hillary’s Pardon – Will He or Won’t He? CNN Indicators Point to “YES”!…
Will President Obama pardon Hillary Clinton before he leaves office? A question curiously non-discussed in the media.

http://www.infowars.com/hillarys-par...-point-to-yes/

US transferring 4 Gitmo detainees to UAE and Saudi Arabia, officials say.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...cials-say.html

Ignore Bergdahl decision post phoned to February 2017 - unless Obama now also pardons him too.

http://ufpnews.com/obama-plans-pardo...ader-bergdahl/
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"So Chelsea Manning leaked defense and national security documents to Wikileaks and Obama just commuted 80% of his sentence. Does that mean it is OK for Democrats to leak to Putin and the Russians (Wikileaks)?? I guess Manning has hacked the pardon process, right? Just like Putin hacked the election?

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leaves office in a few hours. In his 8 years in office he emulated Custer's famous Indian scout.
Custer would seek his advice and then do the opposite of his recommendation. Our incumbent President always precedes his actions by verbally stating to the contrary. Always judge him by what he does not what he says.
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"So Chelsea Manning leaked defense and national security documents to Wikileaks and Obama just commuted 80% of his sentence. Does that mean it is OK for Democrats to leak to Putin and the Russians (Wikileaks)?? I guess Manning has hacked the pardon process, right? Just like Putin hacked the election?

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All the while the poor guy who took pictures of the inside of a submarine to show his family what he did is sitting in a prison cell. Just another example of how every decision this president makes is either politically or ideologically driven. This shouldn't surprise anyone.
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A brief, more realistic view of BHO's "scandal free" Administration:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...ite-house.html
As comprehensive as this is, somehow, I think, Fund is leaving a few items off his list, particularly as it relates to the EPA, the Labor Department and several other Agencies that over stepped their bounds.
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How much the taxpayers will save as of 1/1/17.....

Note: In 2009, FactCheck noted that the salaries of those working for Michele Obama was over 9 million, so what follows is probably true, as reported by a Canadian newspaper.

How much the taxpayers will save or, Are you afraid of the truth?

The taxpayers will save a lot of money once the spendthrift family leave the peoples's white house.
Since 2001, the president has earned a $400,000 annual salary, along with a $50,000 annual expense account, a $100,000 nontaxable travel account, and $19,000 for entertainment. The most recent raise in salary was approved by Congress and President Bill Clinton in 1999 and went into effect in 2001. FYI by law Trump has to take a salary as president. He will take $1.00 (one dollar).


Obama wanted a raise of his pension. He will get $400,000 per year for life as his pension and wanted a huge raise - don't know how much more he wanted. I don't think he got it. He promises that he will be a thorn in the side of Trump even more so after January 20.


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Copyright Canada Free Press. The American Press seems to still be in the pocket of OBama or afraid of the Billary Mafia and will not print facts about them.

Total Personal Staff members for US First ladies: Mamie Eisenhower: One - paid for personally, out of President's salary.

Total number of Personal Staff Members paid by Tax Payers:

Jackie Kennedy: One
Lady Bird Johnson: One
Pat Nixon: One
Betty Ford: One
Rosaline Carter: One
Barbara Bush: One
Hilary Clinton: Seven
Laura Bush: One
Michele Obama: Twenty-two!!!!!

Yep….your eyes don’t deceive you. You want to read WASTE? ....Scroll on down.

Michele Obama's personal staff: Take a closer look:

One.. $192,200 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
Two.. $160,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects)
Three.. $133,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary)
Four.. $122,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Director of Communications)
Five.. $120,000 - Winter, Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
Six.. $110,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
Seven.. $104,000 - Lilyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary)
Eight.. $ 95,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance)
Nine.. $ 90,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects)
Ten.. $ 85,000 - Burnough, Erinn (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Eleven.. $ 84,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Twelve.. $ 82,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator)
Thirteen.. $ 80,000 - Fitz, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director)
Fourteen.. $ 77,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide)
Fifteen.. $ 72,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary)
Sixteen.. $ 70,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide)
Seventeen.. $ 65,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence)
Eighteen.. $ 63,000 - Tubman, Samantha A. (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
Nineteen.. $ 60,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff)
Twenty.. $ 56,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
Twenty-One.. $ 55,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
Twenty-Two.. $ 55,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence)
That’s a Total...$2,075,200 in annual salaries - all for someone we did not vote for and apparently have no control over. 5 staff are Muslim and 13 African-American.

There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life. This does not include:

"Makeup artist" Ingrid Grimes-Miles, Full time,

"First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, Full time,

Both of whom traveled aboard Air Force One on ALL Trips (which were more like an invasion force than mere chief of state visits).
As of 11/15/2015 the Obama Family has spent over $1,300,000,000 (one billion, three hundred million dollars) on personal family trips. They were personal, not political or Government related.

How things have changed! If you're one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at WalMart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of
"Ms. Michelle" are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by YOU.

Copyright Canada Free Press not American Left Press

Yes…… The Canadian Free Press had to publish this, perhaps because America no longer has a free press and the USA media is afraid that they might be considered racist.
The idea that the staffing levels are out of whack vs historical norms has been discredited even by Fox News. These are comparable back to the days of Nancy Reagan. Titles were different, and salaries adjusted with inflation, but White House staff is little changed.
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The idea that the staffing levels are out of whack vs historical norms has been discredited even by Fox News. These are comparable back to the days of Nancy Reagan. Titles were different, and salaries adjusted with inflation, but White House staff is little changed.
I will take your word for that Doug. It is interesting to note how much money it costs to maintain our first ladies but 22 of them. How do you even remember who does what for you and where do they all hide when you don't want them around? Do they all have offices? I know some of them were not there for the full term. Apparently Michelle is not as easy going as she would lead you to believe and some left through natural attrition. I looked most of them up individually because I was skeptical myself.

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The idea that the staffing levels are out of whack vs historical norms has been discredited even by Fox News. These are comparable back to the days of Nancy Reagan. Titles were different, and salaries adjusted with inflation, but White House staff is little changed.
Source?
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Source?
I'm not going back through all the different places that refuted this. Find a legit source for the original post. You won't, because other than the names, titles and salaries taken from White House filings it's all made up.

Edit - I wasted 5 minutes to find some stuff.

Laura Bush had 18 people on staff, and in the last year of the GWB presidency it was as high as 26. I know some of you don't like Snopes, but here's what they had on this, including a quote from someone on Laura's staff:



"So far as the original White House report was accurate, it was fair to say that First Lady Michelle Obama had about 22 staffers working for her, directly or indirectly, at the time (Katie McCormick Lelyveld, Michelle Obama’s press secretary, set the figure at 24). However, it's grossly inaccurate to claim that the current First Lady has hired "an unprecedented number of staffers," or to assert (as stated in the anonymously tacked-on final paragraph) that First Lady Laura Bush had but a single staffer working for her.

The 2008 White House Office Staff List, issued during the final year of President George W. Bush's tenure in office, included sixteen different staffers with the words "First Lady" in their position titles — exactly the same number as that listed for Michelle Obama in 2009. If all staffers listed with "Social Secretary" in their titles are included as part of the First Lady's retinue (as was done with the Michelle Obama example cited above), then Mrs. Bush had at least 18 people working for her in 2008 (not including any of the various personnel listed only as "Staff Assistants," some of whom may also have worked for her directly or indirectly).

White House staffing is fluid, with people and positions coming and going, but according to Anita McBride, Laura Bush's former Chief of Staff, Mrs. Bush had between 24 and 26 staffers working for her by the end of her husband's second term in office. It's therefore fair to say that the size of Michelle Obama's staff is not "unprecedented," but rather on a par with her immediate predecessor's.

Moreover, according to the Associated Press, several other First Ladies had larger numbers of personnel working for them than Michelle Obama did:


A look at some first ladies and their staff sizes:

Laura Bush: Between 24 and 26 by end of President George W. Bush's term in 2009, according to Anita McBride, Mrs. Bush's chief of staff.

Lady Bird Johnson, whose signature issue was beautifying roadways, had a staff of 30, said Stacy A. Cordery, a history professor at Montmouth [sic] College in Illinois who studies first ladies.

Betty Ford had almost the same number.

Jacqueline Kennedy, who made renovating the White House her cause, had about 40 people on staff, Cordery said."


If you want to find some more of the research into the lack of validity in the assertion in the original post, just google has Michele Obama significantly increased the size of the First Lady's staff. You can find multiple sites discrediting the original post on the same page. I know Fox News did at one time on air.

I have no idea where anyone came up with $1.3 billion on vacations, but I'd say that's highly suspect. And is likely little different than what GWB spent if it's true (which I doubt since it is so easy to refute that Laura Bush had 1 person on staff).

The pension program for the POTUS is salary and perks earned in office for life. if the $400K per year salary went into effect in 2001, then Obama is getting the exact same pension as Bush. And that would make 16 years with no increase in presidential salaries or pension.

We can debate whether there is too much staff devoted to the WH and the First Lady. We can debate if the presidency and all its security costs too much. But the idea that there's been some gigantic growth in the staff is a farce. It's largely spread by some guy that runs a Last Crusade website, and that others have added content to his original post - largely in the comparison to prior administrations and fringe places pick it up and repeat it over and over. Unfortunately many believe this crap - they really think Laura Bush had a single person on staff. It fits their narrative, so it must be true. Same is true on the left. And I thought we had an informed electorate (cough, cough)

This stuff is lunacy. And why on earth does anyone thank a post full of half truths, gross distortions and outright lies that can be disproven by a grade school student with internet access.

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I'm not going back through all the different places that refuted this. Find a legit source for the original post.
As good/bad as it all sounds...a google search states the numbers are false.
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