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DD is grown up right in front of us, he is stronger and more aggressive going to the basket, It almost seems going back to last year that he was afraid of Archie as he was always looking to the bench....now he just plays...loving it!
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11-18-2017, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cobra8u
DD is grown up right in front of us, he is stronger and more aggressive going to the basket, It almost seems going back to last year that he was afraid of Archie as he was always looking to the bench....now he just plays...loving it!
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I had to pinch myself to see if I was hallucinating after DD's game last night. I wonder if he had a few sessions with a Sports Psychologist? He was phenomenal. I was trying to figure out who that guy was in Darrell Davis's body. No pouting, no sheepish looks at the coach. Just a ton of production without ever looking backwards.
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11-18-2017, 10:19 AM
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I have my hand up as one of the most vocal DD detractors on this board. He is finishing stronger most of the time and is playing well. While I've always said the talent is there (maybe not the physical stature), frankly I didn't think he had the psychological makeup to carry a team. So far he has proven me wrong. Kudos to him and I hope he proves me wrong the entire season.
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11-18-2017, 11:46 AM
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DD is a good player. I just do not see him as a leader, even though as the only senior (OK, Gruden too) he really needs to be a leader.
And that point is proven that Josh is the captain, not DD.
Having said that, his play will largely dictate the type of season we have.
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11-18-2017, 02:33 PM
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Only criticism of DD is his FT shooting. You can't complain about his effort or output so far.
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Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan
Only criticism of DD is his FT shooting. You can't complain about his effort or output so far.
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Baby D is shooting 83% on 15/18 from the Free Throw line this year. National ranking after 3 games is #270 out of approximately 4500 D1 players.
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11-18-2017, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cobra8u
DD is grown up right in front of us, he is stronger and more aggressive going to the basket, It almost seems going back to last year that he was afraid of Archie as he was always looking to the bench....now he just plays...loving it!
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Something else...I have not seen that scowl of frustration on his face. He is just playing ball and having fun, not worrying about giving up his starting spot on the team.
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11-18-2017, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan
Only criticism of DD is his FT shooting. You can't complain about his effort or output so far.
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Bad timing after an 8-8 night at the FT line.
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11-18-2017, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty10
Bad timing after an 8-8 night at the FT line.
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Maybe, but one night doesn't automatically make him a better FT shooter. I shot 71 on the golf course one day but I'm not a scratch golfer.
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11-18-2017, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan
Maybe, but one night doesn't automatically make him a better FT shooter. I shot 71 on the golf course one day but I'm not a scratch golfer.
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Baby D is a career 73% FT shooter (82/113). The NCAA average has been about 69% the past 50 years so he is a consistently an above average FT shooter. Baby D shot 74% as a Freshman (17/23), 66% as a Sophomore (21/32), 73% as a Junior (29/40), and 83% thus far as a Senior (15/18).
What I like is he averaged 1.25 FTs a game his junior year (a career high) and is averaging 6 FTs a game as a Senior. He might not keep at this pace, but will likely blow away his per game FTs attempted average.
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11-18-2017, 11:23 PM
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He's driving, and for the most part finishing at the rim this year. I think we will see a lot of nights where he shoots 8 free throws, and make 6 or 7. Huge step up for him as a senior. I'm now a big DD fan, when last year I was not so sure.
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11-18-2017, 11:23 PM
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Why is it so hard to believe that a highly rated player that in his freshman season got thrown to the wolves by being only one of 6 scholarship players that won 2 games in the NCAA tournament and was actually player of the game for the Flyers in their loss to Oklahoma, then 2 years later improves his defense and his 3 point shooting from a sophomore slump, shines when he finally gets his chance to start and own it.?
Baby D was screwed throughout his career here, first by not being able to be developed as Freshman(see thrown to wolves part of last paragraph) and then has Charles Cooke show up and take away his minutes the next 2 seasons. Last year he showed a lot when he started and then Archie decides he owes to his seniors to show respect by starting all of them as the team crumbled in the end. Baby D and the team shined when he started with Kyle coming off the bench last season, this should not be that big of surprise that he's wrapping up his Flyers' career with a bang. It isn't to this UD and Baby D fan.
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Some players need a kick in the *** and others need to be nurtured. AM's approach has worked suspectularly well for most players, but it was not the right approach for Baby D. AG's calm and supportive approach also is helping Baby D regain his confidence.
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11-18-2017, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ruechalgrin
Some players need a kick in the *** and others need to be nurtured. AM's approach has worked suspectularly well for most players, but it was not the right approach for Baby D. AG's calm and supportive approach also is helping Baby D regain his confidence.
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And yet it seems that Archie and Anthony reversed those roles with John Crosby. Seems that Anthony's approach is working better with those two.
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Originally Posted by Smitty10
Why is it so hard to believe that a highly rated player that in his freshman season got thrown to the wolves by being only one of 6 scholarship players that won 2 games in the NCAA tournament and was actually player of the game for the Flyers in their loss to Oklahoma, then 2 years later improves his defense and his 3 point shooting from a sophomore slump, shines when he finally gets his chance to start and own it.?
Baby D was screwed throughout his career here, first by not being able to be developed as Freshman(see thrown to wolves part of last paragraph) and then has Charles Cooke show up and take away his minutes the next 2 seasons. Last year he showed a lot when he started and then Archie decides he owes to his seniors to show respect by starting all of them as the team crumbled in the end. Baby D and the team shined when he started with Kyle coming off the bench last season, this should not be that big of surprise that he's wrapping up his Flyers' career with a bang. It isn't to this UD and Baby D fan.
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I see a lot of similarities between DD as a freshman to a senior and Devin Oliver as a freshman to a senior.
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I agree to some extent...
Originally Posted by ruechalgrin
Some players need a kick in the *** and others need to be nurtured. AM's approach has worked suspectularly well for most players, but it was not the right approach for Baby D. AG's calm and supportive approach also is helping Baby D regain his confidence.
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I'm totally on board that the style of coaching MIGHT have affected DD's performance as a Freshman. We won't ever know that by the time DD reached his Senior year under Miller, who had chosen to stay at UD, that he wouldn't have acquired a thicker skin and performed the same for Miller in spite of no coaching change. Just sayin'. He simply might have been a late bloomer as the title of this thread suggests.
But be reminded, DD shot 45% from the arc, and 19% INSIDE the arc as a Freshman. He freaked out in the lane finishing shots and it had very little to do with a lack of coddling. His poor technique collided with a young fragile psych to produce airball tear drops, clanking layups, offensive charges, and blocked attempts. We actually saw one of those Friday when he made every necessary move on the break only to hit the bottom of the rim at the finish. Other than that one, he was awesome across the board and made some great finishes.
Whatever changed him, and however long it took, this edition of DD is a pleasure to watch.
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11-19-2017, 10:49 AM
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The key difference as I see it is that DD is being asked to do more and is responding. The past 3 years he was second or third fiddle to scooch or Cooke. He really didn't control the ball or demand it because it wasn't his place. He is now, along with Josh, the key offensive weapon for this team. Sometimes that confidence comes with knowing you are looked upon to score.
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Originally Posted by jumpin' joe
I see a lot of similarities between DD as a freshman to a senior and Devin Oliver as a freshman to a senior.
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Some, but remember, DMO got a lot more playing time in two seasons leading up to his senior season. I always felt Baby D had the talent, I'll admit, not so much for DMO. I feel if there wasn't a Charles Cooke in front of Baby D, he would've already shown what he could do. DMO surprised the heck out of me. And while DMO had a very good senior season and turned into one of the greatest leaders of the team ever(remember, this is a player that never stepped foot in an NCAA game his 3 previous seasons and decided that was going to end his senior year) I never felt he had the skills to carry the team offensively like Baby D always had.
Let me expand on DMO and what makes him so great. Here's a guy that played with Chris Wright, Staten, Chris Johnson, Vee Sanford, Kevin Dillard, and Josh Benson, guys who were expected to lead us to big things but never did. He had no reference point on how to lead a team to big things yet in his senior season, takes the bull by the horns and leads us to our furthest point in 30 years. Actually believed that we could get there and led us there. That's what I'll always remember DMO as.
Baby D, well, in some ways has it a little easier, he's been to three tournaments and has gotten to play with Pierre, Sibert, Scooch, Kyle and Pollard, all guys that got to experience the leadership of DMO. What we need from him is yes, to be that 2nd leader(Josh is obviously the first, pretty remarkable in itself) and to be the offensive catalyst(DMO was part of the offense, but not the main catalyst).
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11-19-2017, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ruechalgrin
Baby D is a career 73% FT shooter (82/113). The NCAA average has been about 69% the past 50 years so he is a consistently an above average FT shooter. Baby D shot 74% as a Freshman (17/23), 66% as a Sophomore (21/32), 73% as a Junior (29/40), and 83% thus far as a Senior (15/18).
What I like is he averaged 1.25 FTs a game his junior year (a career high) and is averaging 6 FTs a game as a Senior. He might not keep at this pace, but will likely blow away his per game FTs attempted average.
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What's the NCAA FT% for guards, rather than for everyone. That would be a better comparison than lumping him in with everyone else. And while he has shot better this year and I hope it continues, it hasn't been a strength. Crosby, for all his flaws, actually has a really good looking FT shot. I haven't looked at his % though, so who knows, they may look better but go in at a lower clip.
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Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan
What's the NCAA FT% for guards, rather than for everyone. That would be a better comparison than lumping him in with everyone else. And while he has shot better this year and I hope it continues, it hasn't been a strength. Crosby, for all his flaws, actually has a really good looking FT shot. I haven't looked at his % though, so who knows, they may look better but go in at a lower clip.
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No idea but my guess is not much different than 69%. Here is the article about FTs the last 50 years. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/sports/basketball/04freethrow.html
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