2022-23 Games of note

[ud2]

Originally Posted by rollo I missed the 2nd player…didn’t pay that much attention. Even though, i don’t understand that call! Unless you shake the rim, making contact with it is hardly worthy of a game deciding call Posted via Mobile Device

I will defer to your expertise, but if the rule is that the touching of the rim/net has to be of such a nature so as to prevent the ball from going into the basket, then it was the wrong call, and X got jobbed.

The second X player's touching of the net/rim was not enough to prevent the ball from going into the basket. The Butler player was going to forcefully slam dunk the ball, the second X's player touching of the rim/net was not going to stop that dunk from going in had it not been for the first X player cleanly blocking the dunk.

Sometimes I feel like these refs in general, in any sport, are reluctant to overturn the original call because they don't want to admit that the original call was wrong.

[rollo]

I’ve seen plenty of missed dunks pop up and go thru the basket with no call when the offensive player obviously hung/shook the rim on the first attempt and the refs didn’t call basket interference.
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[ud2]

Here is a real good look at it, looks like the wrong call, I don't see any basket interference that prevented the dunk from going in. Perhaps though the block was goal tending? Iinm, the TV announcers said that the second X player was the one whistled for the infraction.

+ YouTube Video

[ud2]

I can't figure out if #3 or #24 for X committed the goal tending infraction. One sports writer says that #3 committed the infraction. Another sports writer says that #24 committed the infraction.

I have no idea if that was goal tending, I will leave that up to rollo.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...t/69894724007/

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ud2 Here is a real good look at it, looks like the wrong call, I don't see any basket interference that prevented the dunk from going in. Perhaps though the block was goal tending? Iinm, the TV announcers said that the second X player was the one whistled for the infraction. + YouTube Video

I’m not that well-versed on the rule book, but I did notice 3 things on that replay:
1) Thad is looking old.
2) It looked like there might have been lower body contact from behind, but the block by #24 looked fairly clean from the “under the basket cam”. And
3) When they showed the closeup of the official motioning “count the basket”, I thought, “That looks like Jeffrey Anderson!” So, I checked the box score and, sure enough, it was Jeffrey Anderson!

And finally, it’s always a good night when UD wins and X loses!
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[longtimefan]

I didn't see the play, but if it cost X the game it was the correct call.

[tirebiter]

I was at the UD/XU game at XU in 1965-66 and saw the X player, Bob Quick I think, block a dunk attempt by Hank Finkel and it was ruled goaltending. UD won the game by 3. (Back when UD always beat X and always lost to UC.)

The crowd was outraged but the call stood. I was a little embarrassed that a 6'5 guy blocked a dunk by a 6'11 guy, but I was delighted at the call.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[jack72]

"With 1.2 seconds left in a 58-58 game, Duke's Tyrese Proctor inbounded the ball to a cutting Kyle Filipowski. Filipowski drove to the rim and attempted a contested finish over Virginia's Reece Beekman and Ryan Dunn as time expired. The officials called a foul, awarding Filipowski two free throws.

After an official review, however, they overturned the foul call, saying it came after the buzzer and the game went to overtime, where Virginia pulled away for a 69-62 win.

The ACC said the officials got it wrong.

"The play should have resulted in two free throws for Duke," the league said in a statement, citing Rule 5, Section 7, Article 3c of the NCAA Rule Book.

The rule states, in part, that "when the foul occurs after time expires but while the ball is in flight during a try, the period shall end when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed."

[UD62]

Originally Posted by jack72 "With 1.2 seconds left in a 58-58 game, Duke's Tyrese Proctor inbounded the ball to a cutting Kyle Filipowski. Filipowski drove to the rim and attempted a contested finish over Virginia's Reece Beekman and Ryan Dunn as time expired. The officials called a foul, awarding Filipowski two free throws. After an official review, however, they overturned the foul call, saying it came after the buzzer and the game went to overtime, where Virginia pulled away for a 69-62 win. The ACC said the officials got it wrong. "The play should have resulted in two free throws for Duke," the league said in a statement, citing Rule 5, Section 7, Article 3c of the NCAA Rule Book. The rule states, in part, that "when the foul occurs after time expires but while the ball is in flight during a try, the period shall end when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed."

The Dukies lost, all is good.

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by kman84ud Maybe not quite this play, but if a player is dunking the ball and the ball is in the cylinder, can an opposing player even legally block the ball since the ball is in the cylinder? Or are all bets off when trying to block a dunk (no third player involved).

This is what I thought of when I saw that play. Is a defender prohibited from blocking when the ball is in the cylinder? I'm unclear on that rule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiH2mlGEiSE

You get a much better look at it with the link above. There is a slo-mo replay. It looks like the ball is in the cylinder when the block takes place. The 2nd X player does grab the rim and shake it, but it looks like the ball is shooting away anyhow. But is it the job of the refs to predict if the ball is going to bounce in after a rim grab by the defender? Just don't grab the rim during a shot if you are the defender. I think the officials had to make that call in light of the rim grab. Not sure what the "in the cylinder" rule might be.

Edit:

After an informal "google search" of this issue, it sounds like everyone is prohibited from touching the ball "in the cylinder" with the lone exception of a player dunking the ball. I'm not sure if that lines up with the official rule book, but my money is on that as the reason for the goaltending call. You can't block a shot in the cylinder.

[cj]

OSU with 14 points at the half against MSU
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[T-Bone 84]

After today’s shellacking by Sparty, the Buckeyes are 3 games below .500 overall, and 13th in the 14-team B1G. So, they’re gaining steam, and probably in the Next 4 Out.
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[Monster Man]

The so-called experts are predicting 8-9 teams from the Big 10 will make the tournament. The same thing happened last year and most didn’t make it past the first or second round. This is the number one problem with the NCAA tournament. Very few want to watch very average P5 teams with mediocre conference records get selected over quality “mid major” teams. It’s all about money and power with the NCAA to the detriment of deserving non-P5 schools.
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[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 After today’s shellacking by Sparty, the Buckeyes are 3 games below .500 overall, and 13th in the 14-team B1G. So, they’re gaining steam, and probably in the Next 4 Out. Posted via Mobile Device

What's crazy is somehow I keep hearing other teams get a quad 1 win if they have beaten this 11-14 OSU squad.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel What's crazy is somehow I keep hearing other teams get a quad 1 win if they have beaten this 11-14 OSU squad.

So, we’re back to the logic that we had 30-35 years ago, when an 18-12 Georgetown squad made The Dance, and the line of questioning went something like this:

Reporter: “I see that you selected Georgetown, despite the fact that they finished the regular season with 12 losses and were 6th out of 9 teams in their conference. What was the reasoning behind that?”

NCAA Apologist Selection Committee Rep: “Well, they played a very difficult schedule. They played Syracuse. They played UConn. They played Seton Hall.”

R: “OK, so who did Seton Hall play?”

NASCR: “They played UConn. They played Syracuse. They played Georgetown.”

And so on.
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[ud2]

Ohio State is the 36th team out on Torvik's site now after the MSU loss. Barring a strong finish, OSU will not make the ncaat this year. They have fallen a lot over the last week or two.

[Glen Clark]

While everyone was being entertained by the Superbowl spectacle . . .

#1 Purdue (23-3) 58 @ Northwestern (18-7) 64

Northwestern's first basketball victory over a number one ranked opponent in school history.

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[UD62]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark While everyone was being entertained by the Superbowl spectacle . . . #1 Purdue (23-3) 58 @ Northwestern (18-7) 64 Northwestern's first basketball victory over a number one ranked opponent in school history. _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

Boilers looked like a grade school team the last 4 min. or so. nice win for the Cats.

[CT Flyer]

I see UNC is gaining steam with their home loss to Miami.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer I see UNC is gaining steam with their home loss to Miami.

You think our fans are upset, imagine the UNC fans after last year's run to the final, now they are 16-10 and 8-7 league.

[Medford]

Since sadly the dreams of an at large bid went away a long time ago, we are left with trying to figure out seeding for the A10T and hopes that the recent play and gradual return to health is a sign that this team can run thru the league in Brooklyn and slide into a nice cushy 12 seed on selection Sunday. With that said, its an interesting week for the a10- call it separation week if you will with 9 teams clustered b/w 4 6 and 8 conference victories.


Tuesday


Week gets off to whimper with Loyola (15) @ Umass (14). 2 last place teams destined for the Sock Hop.


Wednesday:


St Joes (5) @ Duquesne (6t) each with legit hopes of a 4 seed and the double bye


Mason (10t) @ GW (8t)


Bona (6t) @ Fordham (3t) Can Fordham get a double bye? has that ever happened?
They would move into a tie with UD for 2nd (though UD has the tie breaker with a win). They already won @ Bonna, @ Duquesne and vs SLU; a victory on Wednesday will put them in a very strong spot for the top 4.


Richmond (10t) @ LaSalle (8t) With the expanded Sock Hop now including teams 10-15, Wednesday double 10 v 8 looms large for all 4.


VCU (1) @ Rhody (12t) Rhody is destined for the Sock Hop for sure, perhaps Archie can do UD a favor and knock of VCU as well. We can almost forgive him for what he did to UD a few weeks ago


Davidson (12t) @ SLU (3t) SLU can look great at times and horrible at others. Davidson has played to top 4 teams tough in all but 1 game this season (17 point blow out @ VCU) lost by 6/7 to UD, 2 to Fordham and 2 to SLU. Perhaps this is the game they get over the hump.


Friday:


UD (2) @ Loyola (15) Can the Flyers please close them out and not give me heart troubles this time around. Pretty please.


Saturday:


St Joes @ Davidson
UMass @ Rhody
LaSalle @ Mason


Lumped them all together because all are fighting to get out of the Sock Hop


Fordham (3t) @ VCU (1) VCU has the easiest schedule left, could be a huge week for Fordham, perhaps their biggest since the blocks of granite graduated.


Duquesne (5) @ SLU (3t) Big week for both, if either wins both games this week they will be sitting strong for the double bye.


GW @ Bona Depending on what happens earlier in the week, perhaps a must win for both teams to avoid the Sock Hop.


So perhaps ESPN isn't going to feature any of these games on sports center this week, but gosh darnit, I love me some A-10 action

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Figgie123]

And we are also watching the 2 teams who played for the A10 conference tournament title last year, vying to stay out of the "Sock Hop" on Tuesday this year.

[Flyerferd]

Loyola Chicago gets the win in Amhurst 64-62.
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[maddog07]

Originally Posted by Flyerferd Loyola Chicago gets the win in Amhurst 64-62. Posted via Mobile Device

It wasn’t easy. LUC gave up 16 straight points in the last ten minutes and were out scored 19-3 but hung on. Sounds a bit like a team I follow!

Hope that takes the starch out of them for Friday. We were lucky to prevail against them at our place as they completely shut down Deuce allowing him no field goals in regulation. The teams didn’t seem to like each other much either.
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[Chris R]

Creighton is proving the power of conference scheduling.

They lost 6 in a row at one point to Arizona, Texas, Nebraska, BYU, Arizona State, and Marquette to get to 6-6. On January 11th after a loss to Xavier they were 9-8 and no longer in the NCAA field...with 8 losses already on the books. At any point if UD is 9-8, at-large chances are basically done. There's no hope unless you run the table and lose in the A10 Finals.

The Jays however win eight in a row over #24 Providence, Butler, St. Johns, #16 Xavier, Georgetown, Villanova, Seton Hall, and #20 UConn. Just like that they have three wins over nationally-ranked teams. Even with tonight's loss to PC, they still have NIT-bound St. Johns and #11 Marquette to make up ground. Right now Creighton is a lock for the field were the field posted today.

North Carolina has as many Q1 wins as Dayton does -- zip. They are 0-9 in Q1 games. But they still have #23 NC State, #7 Virginia, and Duke on the schedule, along with the ACC Tourney. They still have enough meat on the bone to play themselves into the NCAA Tourney. If they win those 3 big games and go 3-9 in Q1 they may get in.

Dayton does not get 12 chances at Q1 wins. We might be 4-5 a season. And we need to go 4-1 or 3-2 to feel good about ourselves. We can't win the same percentage of Q1 games because we don't have the volume. Our margin for error is almost nil. As up and down as we've been this year, if we had nine Q1 games, we'd have triumphed in at least 1-2 and that's conservative. We're 0-2 in Q1 this year and they were early. If we had a bunch of Q1 games in the back half of the season we'd have picked off a couple. When you play 1-2 Q1 games a week even blind squirrels find some nuts.

In the committee's eyes, going 4-9 vs Q1 is better than going 2-1 vs Q1.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Chris R Creighton is proving the power of conference scheduling.

It would just be such a big change, both good and bad, going from the A10 to the Big East.

Good: you don't have to worry about trying to get enough good games scheduled during the non-conference portion of the schedule, the league schedule provides plenty of opportunities...you can play yourself in...all the games are on a TV channel that is broadcast nationally and is easily accessible either on TV or via streaming

Bad: you never really get a break during league play against a weak opponent, it is just a constant grind the whole time...you can play yourself out...significantly larger and more hostile crowds during every away game

[UdGrad2009]

Creighton played an incredible OOC schedule, so idk if it is the power of the conference schedule or a combination of both. Their Strength of schedule in conference and out is highly ranked.

Their NET is 14 right now. I think the new NET, is heavily influenced on metrics and then how you won or lost. They lost some close games to really good teams during that 6 game losing streak and you just don't really suffer when you do that.

In short I don't think this is the committee being biased as much as it is the new NET rankings favoring the metrics.

North Carolina is 45 in the NET. They are 38 in Kenpom. The reason they have a chance is not because they are 0-9 vs Q1, its because they are 6-1 vs Quad 2. They also have no Q3 or Q4 losses. Again, they also look good in the efficiency metrics and strength of schedule both in and out of conference.

The flyers are not in consideration because they are - 0-2 Q1 2-3 Quad 2 and have 4 Quad 3 losses. If Dayton were 4-1 in Quad 2 and did not have the bad losses, they would have a shot. The metrics also do not view Dayton as all that great either. Good defensive ranking, not great offense. Strength of Schedule is not good at all.

[UdGrad2009]

I guess if your saying the A10 being down is the issue, then I would agree though. The biggest issue for Dayton right now and years to come is not committee bias, as much as it is the weakness of the A10 failing to provide enough opportunities to overcome more than 5 or 6 losses total to make the tournament. There really was no room for error this year with the weak schedule both in and out of conference.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by ud2 It would just be such a big change, both good and bad, going from the A10 to the Big East. Good: you don't have to worry about trying to get enough good games scheduled during the non-conference portion of the schedule, the league schedule provides plenty of opportunities...you can play yourself in...all the games are on a TV channel that is broadcast nationally and is easily accessible either on TV or via streaming Bad: you never really get a break during league play against a weak opponent, it is just a constant grind the whole time...you can play yourself out...significantly larger and more hostile crowds during every away game

Most of us would take those Bad's for those Good's everyday and twice on Sunday!

[ud2]

Originally Posted by UdGrad2009 They lost some close games to really good teams during that 6 game losing streak and you just don't really suffer when you do that.

Agree, I was looking at West Virginia's schedule, they had a 5 game losing streak to Big 12 opponents, and their Torvik rating only dropped 9 spots. The whole thing seems so incestuous/very exclusive, it's all just a big p5/p6 gathering where everybody scratches each other's backs. Those losses should matter more.

If we had a 5 game A10 losing streak, that would just about destroy the entire season.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by ud2 Agree, I was looking at West Virginia's schedule, they had a 5 game losing streak to Big 12 opponents, and their Torvik rating only dropped 9 spots. The whole thing seems so incestuous/very exclusive, it's all just a big p5/p6 gathering where everybody scratches each other's backs. Those losses should matter more. If we had a 5 game A10 losing streak, that would just about destroy the entire season.

In this year's A10? Absolutely. In the 2014 A10? Actually not.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Flyerferd Loyola Chicago gets the win in Amhurst 64-62. Posted via Mobile Device

If every fan at that game in Amherst counted as 10 fans, that game would still be sparsely attended.

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[steve]

Originally Posted by UdGrad2009 Creighton played an incredible OOC schedule, so idk if it is the power of the conference schedule or a combination of both. Their Strength of schedule in conference and out is highly ranked. Their NET is 14 right now. I think the new NET, is heavily influenced on metrics and then how you won or lost. They lost some close games to really good teams during that 6 game losing streak and you just don't really suffer when you do that. In short I don't think this is the committee being biased as much as it is the new NET rankings favoring the metrics. North Carolina is 45 in the NET. They are 38 in Kenpom. The reason they have a chance is not because they are 0-9 vs Q1, its because they are 6-1 vs Quad 2. They also have no Q3 or Q4 losses. Again, they also look good in the efficiency metrics and strength of schedule both in and out of conference. The flyers are not in consideration because they are - 0-2 Q1 2-3 Quad 2 and have 4 Quad 3 losses. If Dayton were 4-1 in Quad 2 and did not have the bad losses, they would have a shot. The metrics also do not view Dayton as all that great either. Good defensive ranking, not great offense. Strength of Schedule is not good at all.

They actually lost those games without their best player, too.

[Chris R]

According to Lunardi this afternoon, UNC is in the bracket.

My comments were in no way an argument for Daytons consideration. We have none to speak of.

[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by Chris R According to Lunardi this afternoon, UNC is in the bracket. My comments were in no way an argument for Daytons consideration. We have none to speak of.

And that is why we need to be in the BE. Just play good teams and if you win, great. If not, just win some of them.

UNC - similar resumes
https://barttorvik.com/resume-compar...lina&year=2023

UD - similar resumes
https://barttorvik.com/resume-compar...yton&year=2023

Basically, a team with UNCs profile and resume (being average but playing good teams) gets into the dance 3 out of 10 times.

A team with UDs profile and resume (being average but playing **** teams) gets into the dance only with an auto bid.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan And that is why we need to be in the BE. Just play good teams and if you win, great. If not, just win some of them. UNC - similar resumes https://barttorvik.com/resume-compar...lina&year=2023 UD - similar resumes https://barttorvik.com/resume-compar...yton&year=2023 Basically, a team with UNCs profile and resume (being average but playing good teams) gets into the dance 3 out of 10 times. A team with UDs profile and resume (being average but playing **** teams) gets into the dance only with an auto bid.

The thing that gets me is, tOSU has ratings that put them in the discussion for an At Large bid, despite their 11-14 record; despite their 13th Place standing in the B1G. That’s the value of P5+1 status.
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[steverino015]

game of note:
Rhode Island up at half over VCU
30 24

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[UDGutter2]

Originally Posted by steverino015 game of note: Rhode Island up at half over VCU 30 24

Who got injured for VCU?

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 Who got injured for VCU?

The Center, Deloach.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 Who got injured for VCU?

Ace is playing more like a Joker tonight. Currently 0-8 from the field.
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[cj]

AM is a terrible coach. URI leading most of the game, up by 10 with 9 minutes to go and lost.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[lhsgolf19]

Archie blows, get that through your head people... Disgraceful last timeout and out of bounds defense.

[T-Bone 84]

You guys beat me to the keyboard.

You gotta be a horrible coach to let a double digit lead evaporate, on your home court, in just 4 minutes. FIRE ARCHIE!!! OK, now that I got that off my chest…

Rhody did an admirable job of containing Ace, holding him to 2 points on a pair of free throws. And they actually did a decent job of containing VCU players not named Johns, Kern, or Jackson. But those 3 weapons were all VCU needed, combining for 35 of 55 total points on 14 of 17 shooting from the field. Also, Rhody made 17 turnovers, 9 of which came from Leggett and Carey. That and 37% shooting doomed Rhody.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by cj AM is a terrible coach. URI leading most of the game, up by 10 with 9 minutes to go and lost. Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Archie blows, get that through your head people... Disgraceful last timeout and out of bounds defense.

What does that say about Dayton losing to them?

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer What does that say about Dayton losing to them?

We sucked on that day doesn't change the fact that Archie isn't any good.

[jack72]

Alabama makes it to #1 and immediately loses to TN.

[flyerfanatic86]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 We sucked on that day doesn't change the fact that Archie isn't any good.

Archie also did it with a lot less talent and after dismissing one of the better players on his team. Did you see how he called a timeout and drew up a play that got one of his better players driving towards the basket to take the lead late in the game? URI had some defensive lapses late, but it didn't feel like a complete implosion like UD suffers late game against VCU where we can't even get the ball across halfcourt. It looked to me more like VCU's talent finally winning out and they still had to hit a tough, contested jump shot at the buzzer.

I know you're trying to make a point, but I think it was a pretty good coaching job from what I saw (caveat being that I didn't watch the first half so maybe something crazy happened then, I don't know).

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[The Fly]

Archie did a nice job of coaching on the whole, but VCU erased a 13-point lead in the closing minutes because Rhody imploded defensively. They did a poor job handling the press — as we did — but they also gave away points on virtually uncontested dunks and layups at the end.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[zmz723]

I thought the first 2 years for a new coach don’t count? At least that’s the excuse people here use for AG’s ****ty first 2 years.
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[Radar]

Originally Posted by The Fly Archie did a nice job of coaching on the whole, but VCU erased a 13-point lead in the closing minutes because Rhody imploded defensively. They did a poor job handling the press — as we did — but they also gave away points on virtually uncontested dunks and layups at the end.

In defense of Archie/Rhody, Freeman got the boot from the team earlier this week, and their only remaining PG went down during the game. As we all know, when VCU smells blood...

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by Radar In defense of Archie/Rhody, Freeman got the boot from the team earlier this week, and their only remaining PG went down during the game. As we all know, when VCU smells blood...

Trying to imagine what he had to do to get dismissed from an AM team in his 1st year at a new gig.
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[springborofan]

Originally Posted by Radar In defense of Archie/Rhody, Freeman got the boot from the team earlier this week, and their only remaining PG went down during the game. As we all know, when VCU smells blood...

Wait….is someone making an EXCUSE for AM not planning to have a 3rd string PG at the ready that could handle VCU press? He just doesn’t know how to construct a roster!

[T-Bone 84]

tOSU getting curb-stomped by Iowa at the moment.
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[UD62]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 tOSU getting curb-stomped by Iowa at the moment. Posted via Mobile Device

But they are gaining steam and should pass the eye test. Talking heads will soon be talking about Louisville's at-large chances.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by UD62 But they are gaining steam and should pass the eye test. Talking heads will soon be talking about Louisville's at-large chances.

This joke is getting old. And this level of hyperbole isn't what makes the joke funny to begin with. Try using an example that actually makes sense like UNC or Michigan.

OSU has no chance of an at-large. And Louisville is one of the worst teams in the country and possibly the worst "Power 5-6" teams of all time.

[Medford]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 tOSU getting curb-stomped by Iowa at the moment. Posted via Mobile Device

What the hell happened to OSU? I don't pay much attention, but ever since their 2 point loss to Purdue, the wheels have completely fallen off.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo This joke is getting old. And this level of hyperbole isn't what makes the joke funny to begin with. Try using an example that actually makes sense like UNC or Michigan. OSU has no chance of an at-large. And Louisville is one of the worst teams in the country and possibly the worst "Power 5-6" teams of all time.

Do you think that Georgetown is better than Louisville?

Edit: according to the NET rankings, Louisville is far worse. Wow. 324 compared to 230.
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[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer Do you think that Georgetown is better than Louisville? Edit: according to the NET rankings, Louisville is far worse. Wow. 324 compared to 230. Posted via Mobile Device

I rest my case.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo I rest my case.

California is in at 300. Minnesota is below Georgetown at 245. The 3 of them should have to play to see who is relegated to dii.
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[Hyde Park Flyer]

Btw, Loyola, at 264, is the only A10 school with a lower NET than Georgetown.
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[Radar]

Originally Posted by springborofan Wait….is someone making an EXCUSE for AM not planning to have a 3rd string PG at the ready that could handle VCU press? He just doesn’t know how to construct a roster!

Can't believe it took 8 hrs for that response!

[steve]

Originally Posted by springborofan Wait….is someone making an EXCUSE for AM not planning to have a 3rd string PG at the ready that could handle VCU press? He just doesn’t know how to construct a roster!

Just 3rd string?? Hell, we have posters here that **** near thought we should have had an entire roster full of PG's. Let's see, we had Greer leave us in Dec. last year, Weaver gets shut down in Feb. which only left us Mal and Elvis but somehow when Mal gets injured it's now AG's fault for not having what should have been PG#5 on the roster.LMAO.

And then this season we go into it with Mal, Elvis and Mike, the first 2 get hurt within minutes of each other in the same game, and it was AG's fault for not either recruiting/convincing another PG to come in with 3 players with at least 3 years of eligibility left or convincing a transfer worth their weight to come in as a 3rd string PG.

Gee golly, and I could have just had a V-8!

[maddog07]

Originally Posted by steve Just 3rd string?? Hell, we have posters here that **** near thought we should have had an entire roster full of PG's. Let's see, we had Greer leave us in Dec. last year, Weaver gets shut down in Feb. which only left us Mal and Elvis but somehow when Mal gets injured it's now AG's fault for not having what should have been PG#5 on the roster.LMAO. And then this season we go into it with Mal, Elvis and Mike, the first 2 get hurt within minutes of each other in the same game, and it was AG's fault for not either recruiting/convincing another PG to come in with 3 players with at least 3 years of eligibility left or convincing a transfer worth their weight to come in as a 3rd string PG. Gee golly, and I could have just had a V-8!

What is AG’s fault is that he’s never, ever taken us to the NCAA tournament. Excuses don’t matter after this many years. Every team has injuries, defections, illness. That’s just part of the sport.

Last year shouldn’t be about losing Mali v Richmond. We could have gone as an at large.. except for the horrific losses vs Mason and LaSalle after the humiliating eagerly season losses to tomato cans. And this year we have a bucket full of losses, several to bottom teams and ZERO good wins. And several of our losses are directly attributable to his mismanagement of the game strategy.
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[zmz723]

There definitely was 1 NCAA tourney he’s “taken” us to, but 1 in 5 and probably 1 in 6 is really bad. He got fired at Bama for the same thing
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[steve]

Originally Posted by maddog07 What is AG’s fault is that he’s never, ever taken us to the NCAA tournament. Excuses don’t matter after this many years. Every team has injuries, defections, illness. That’s just part of the sport. Last year shouldn’t be about losing Mali v Richmond. We could have gone as an at large.. except for the horrific losses vs Mason and LaSalle after the humiliating eagerly season losses to tomato cans. And this year we have a bucket full of losses, several to bottom teams and ZERO good wins. And several of our losses are directly attributable to his mismanagement of the game strategy. Posted via Mobile Device

Horrific losses on the road with the youngest team in the country with one of them with Camara not even playing, as if games are guaranteed against scholarship players? Son, I doubt you played anything beyond any league where the Capri Sun pouches got passed around. That young was NOT going to be mature enough to walk into any gym on the road, cocky enough that they were on a roll and playing well, and expect to win every game because they aren't able to match intensity for 40 minutes against a team possibly playing many juniors/seniors. Simply sad that you're ignorant enough not to see that.

You can go ahead and live in your world all you want where you can circle your wins every year on the schedule, laying your fat arse in your lazy boy, before teams even lace their shoes on but I don't. Any team at their gym can beat anybody **** near or at least take it down to the wire. Go talk to OSU, go talk to NC who had **** near had everybody back this year and has lost 9-10 games, go talk to X who got beat at DePaul and Butler. Go talk to Kansas who lost 3 in a row. Go talk to FSU who is about to lose their 20th game. Go talk to Syracuse. Go talk to umpteen more teams who can't find consistency with plenty of them NOT having any injuries or even close to the amount of total games injuries have cost UD.It's freakin' basketball and you don't just count the guaranteed wins.

None of that said makes AG a great coach, as he's had more than a few illogical brain farts, or a bad coach but a coach that has to patch pieces together in a game that requires real leadership and chemistry and when the shots don't fall in a 40 minute game you're going to be in a battle and you don't win them all especially on the road.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[zmz723]

All of those teams you listed make the NCAA tournament far more often than not.
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[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by steve Just 3rd string?? Hell, we have posters here that **** near thought we should have had an entire roster full of PG's.

Those posters were right...

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by steve Horrific losses on the road with the youngest team in the country with one of them with Camara not even playing, as if games are guaranteed against scholarship players? Son, I doubt you played anything beyond any league where the Capri Sun pouches got passed around. That young was NOT going to be mature enough to walk into any gym on the road, cocky enough that they were on a roll and playing well, and expect to win every game because they aren't able to match intensity for 40 minutes against a team possibly playing many juniors/seniors. Simply sad that you're ignorant enough not to see that. You can go ahead and live in your world all you want where you can circle your wins every year on the schedule, laying your fat arse in your lazy boy, before teams even lace their shoes on but I don't. Any team at their gym can beat anybody **** near or at least take it down to the wire. Go talk to OSU, go talk to NC who had **** near had everybody back this year and has lost 9-10 games, go talk to X who got beat at DePaul and Butler. Go talk to Kansas who lost 3 in a row. Go talk to FSU who is about to lose their 20th game. Go talk to Syracuse. Go talk to umpteen more teams who can't find consistency with plenty of them NOT having any injuries or even close to the amount of total games injuries have cost UD.It's freakin' basketball and you don't just count the guaranteed wins. None of that said makes AG a great coach, as he's had more than a few illogical brain farts, or a bad coach but a coach that has to patch pieces together in a game that requires real leadership and chemistry and when the shots don't fall in a 40 minute game you're going to be in a battle and you don't win them all especially on the road.

Can't refute facts so goes to personal attacks, son.

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 Can't refute facts so goes to personal attacks, son.

Facts are despite all the advantages the P5 teams have (see UNC, MI this year and Syracuse in 2016), there aren’t 30 teams and likely not 25 meeting the unrealistic criteria the Cryer minority fanbase thinks they are owed. They also think OSU fans count invites like they do and are thus happy to be 4 of 6 with first round losses as a 2seed and not past round 2 in any of the 4.

They also want to act like 2019 never happened because firing a National coach of the year at a place like UD 3 years later would be sheer idiocy.
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[steverino015]

game of note tomorrow:
Fordham at VCU 2:30pm

Fordham tied for 3rd in the conference with
a team they beat, St Louis..
both Fordham and VCU have motivation here

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[tirebiter]

If Fordham and St Louis both win we could have four teams tied for first at 10-4. These last four games are crucial and I'm glad we're at full strength - especially if we can get Blakney back. Any word on him lately?

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[maddog07]

I’m sure the great Jablonski will keep us informed as usual! Soon as he gets to the bottom of the Amafule story! A shame we get so little from the guy who is allegedly the lead “reporter” in town. We get our info from the box score. Apparently he’s never heard of an interview.
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[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by tirebiter If Fordham and St Louis both win we could have four teams tied for first at 10-4. These last four games are crucial and I'm glad we're at full strength - especially if we can get Blakney back. Any word on him lately?

There’s a separate thread about RJ’s status.
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[Swampy Meadows]

Originally Posted by maddog07 I’m sure the great Jablonski will keep us informed as usual! Soon as he gets to the bottom of the Amafule story! A shame we get so little from the guy who is allegedly the lead “reporter” in town. We get our info from the box score. Apparently he’s never heard of an interview. Posted via Mobile Device

You really are utterly pathetic in your hatred of Jablo. He could win a Pulitzer Prize and you’d complain he didn’t get a Nobel Prize.
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[maddog07]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows You really are utterly pathetic in your hatred of Jablo. He could win a Pulitzer Prize and you’d complain he didn’t get a Nobel Prize. Posted via Mobile Device

I don’t hate him. I just find his “journalism” utterly lacking. Go ahead, list just a few of his best insider informations or his keen insights? He publishes little more than what anyone can glean from public information.

But clearly he ant least stays above your petty personal insults when you don’t agree with an opinion. It really is a poor deflection.


He’s an embarrassment.
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[UD62]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer They seem to be gaining some steam going into conference play...

Carefull what you post, Hawkoooo is monitoring

[Flyerferd]

VCU of 20 under 12 minutes to go.
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[springborofan]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows You really are utterly pathetic in your hatred of Jablo. He could win a Pulitzer Prize and you’d complain he didn’t get a Nobel Prize. Posted via Mobile Device

Is it necessary to insult someone because you don’t agree with his opinion? I don’t agree with Maddog on a lot of opinions but I don’t see a reason to get personal. Utterly pathetic? Stop trying to be a one man Twitter mob.

[Flyerferd]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, VCU wins. Duquesne plays st. Louis in the next game of consequence at 8 o’clock.
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	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Swampy Meadows]

Originally Posted by maddog07 I don’t hate him. I just find his “journalism” utterly lacking. Go ahead, list just a few of his best insider informations or his keen insights? He publishes little more than what anyone can glean from public information. Posted via Mobile Device

Here is a link to his twitter feed: https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski

Take a look at the content from the Loyola game and tell me what you would do differently.

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by springborofan Is it necessary to insult someone because you don’t agree with his opinion? I don’t agree with Maddog on a lot of opinions but I don’t see a reason to get personal. Utterly pathetic? Stop trying to be a one man Twitter mob.

Yeah let’s keep our insults, degrading remarks and attacks for the players and coach.
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[bcross]

Originally Posted by zmz723 There definitely was 1 NCAA tourney he’s “taken” us to, but 1 in 5 and probably 1 in 6 is really bad. He got fired at Bama for the same thing Posted via Mobile Device

It's crazy that one of the best coaches in the country has only been to 2 NCAA's in his last 11 seasons.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer California is in at 300. Minnesota is below Georgetown at 245. The 3 of them should have to play to see who is relegated to dii. Posted via Mobile Device

That, or move Cal to the WCC, Louisville to the MAC, and Georgetown to the MEAC.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Flyerferd Meanwhile, back at the ranch, VCU wins. Duquesne plays st. Louis in the next game of consequence at 8 o’clock. Posted via Mobile Device

As if there was much doubt, we now know for sure who the Alpha Ram is in the A-10.
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	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[tirebiter]

Originally Posted by Flyerferd Meanwhile, back at the ranch, VCU wins. Duquesne plays st. Louis in the next game of consequence at 8 o’clock. Posted via Mobile Device

Dukes up 28-14 10 minutes into the 1st half.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 That, or move Cal to the WCC, Louisville to the MAC, and Georgetown to the MEAC. Posted via Mobile Device

Better idea.
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[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows You really are utterly pathetic in your hatred of Jablo. He could win a Pulitzer Prize and you’d complain he didn’t get a Nobel Prize.

Ha-ha-ha! Who are you to talk about having a hatred of someone. You are utterly pathetic in your obsession with and hatred of a particular person whom you post over and over and over and over and over about on the Off-Topic board. Look in the mirror if you want to see a pathetic person.

[steverino015]

so after today, the top 4 in the A10 are:
VCU 11 - 3 in the A10
Dayton 10 - 4
St Louis 10 - 4
Fordham 9 - 5

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by steverino015 so after today, the top 4 in the A10 are: VCU 11 - 3 in the A10 Dayton 10 - 4 St Louis 10 - 4 Fordham 9 - 5

Just keep winning, baybee!
If the Flyers win out, they can finish no worse than second.

_____________________
Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Flyerferd]

VCU up 20 against Saint Joe’s, and SLU seven over Richmond with five minutes to go.
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Flyerferd]

And just as I posted this, Richmond hits two threes to make it a one point game with three minutes to go.
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Flyerferd]

Richmond rallies from 15 down to win.
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CT Flyer]

Richmond wins by 3. Collins 17 assists in the loss for SLU.

VCU wins big. Nunn 31 points on 12-13 shooting, including 7-7 from 3.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[TA111]

SLU is just terrible defensively. Left Richmond players wide open and the Spiders made them pay.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Glen Clark]

SLU shot 53% from the field, 86% from the line, out-rebounded Richmond by five, had seven more assists, and lost!

Richmond took a whopping 37 threes and made 46% of them, and went 16-20 at the free throw line. Saint Louis led the whole way, until the last 70 seconds.

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Swampy Meadows]

As would be expected the folks over at Billikens.com are taking the loss to Richmond well:

https://www.billikens.com/forum/inde...etball-player/
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark SLU shot 53% from the field, 86% from the line, out-rebounded Richmond by five, had seven more assists, and lost! Richmond took a whopping 37 threes and made 46% of them, and went 16-20 at the free throw line. Saint Louis led the whole way, until the last 70 seconds. _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

They also shot 40% from 3. Poor D haunts!
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Richmond wins by 3. Collins 17 assists in the loss for SLU. VCU wins big. Nunn 31 points on 12-13 shooting, including 7-7 from 3.

17 assists.... and they lose

maybe that can get them mad,
so they take it out on VCU
that's who VCU plays before us

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[maddog07]

Richmond took almost 70% of their shots from 3!
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

They’ve given up 32 - 3 point shots in their last 2 games. SLU is currently ranked 163 giving up 33.5%. Teams have to defend the arc. Btw, UD is currently sitting at #5 giving up only 28.2%.
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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.