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Old 03-02-2018, 03:58 PM
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George Washington semi-final opponent

Butler got 39 for GM but it wasn't enough in their four point loss. Credit GW only 9 TO's. I feel the key Saturday will be Prange who had 13 off the bench Friday - she was quite out of sync in their loss at Dayton.
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If I had a choice, I would have picked GDub for our opponent based on what I saw in the GDub/GMU game. Butler is a load and Cordano-Hillary killed us in previous games. However, today Butler got no help. She was the only player to score in double digits for GMU. Cordano-Hillary had an abysmal game - 6 points on 2-12 from the field and 5 turnovers. Had GMU won, I would not have expected another stinker from Cordano-Hillary. I'll take GDub with some good players over GMU with a couple of really good players.

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This tourney is all about how well Dayton plays. No one can touch us if we play well. If we play like the last two games, all bets are off.
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Why does Harris have so much trouble making layups?
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She is the worst since Huelsman. A two foot layup is two feet short.

Lauren with two horrendous lazy passes early.

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Rough start. Turnovers!
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14-13, UD up end of qtr
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Not sure our defense picked up, may be just GW missing there last several shots. We are starting to hit some. 4 turnovers to their 1. Burdette is 1-5. She has got to warm up sometime. Scaife with 5 pts and 4 rebounds.
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Monster bad call on Layfield's second foul. Had made the bucket too. Puts her on the bench.
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Somebody needs to guard Cummings, she's lighting us up.
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Old 03-03-2018, 11:37 AM
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Got a five point lead and then relaxed on both ends. We have some of the laziest players coming to meet passes. Always accounts for several turnovers a game.

I hope Ward conditions all off season. The skill is there, but the body is not.
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Old 03-03-2018, 11:40 AM
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How did we not know the clock was down. Lauren posting up high is a waste
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GW already taken 9 more shots than us -- turnovers!
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Jenna struggling so far today.
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11 points on 2-10 shooting. Outrebounded and totally outhustled that quarter. We lost every 50/50 ball that quarter. Jenna is 2-9 and no one else getting many shots.
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Turnovers and we have given up 6 offensive rebounds, because GW wants the ball more the we do.
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Just 25 points for the half isn't cutting it. 8 total baskets! Wonder if the pressure got to us. Could be their last game of the year.
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Old 03-03-2018, 11:57 AM
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Just 25 points for the half isn't cutting it. 8 total baskets! Wonder if the pressure got to us. Could be their last game of the year.
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31 RPI probably has us in, even with a loss today or tomorrow.
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Will be interesting to see if Green switches from Layfield to Scaife guarding Cummings.
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Need Jenna to get if figured out. Taken 35% of our shots. Made 2.
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What is Jenna's deal? That is the third time she did not rotate the ball to an open for a three Lauren.
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Jenna, you do not have it, give it up and stop shooting.
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Dayton just does not do a good job passing the ball to get the defense moving. Rely too much on ball screens.
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This is just an awful basketball game to watch.
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Green should have pulled Jenna for a few minutes that quarter and rested her. Instead she has pulled Scaife twice, our best player today. Jenna is tired and pressing.
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Our bench is practically worthless. Wilmoth gives us a little.
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One qtr to go. Down 3. Played dreadfully so far. Time for the seniors to step up. JL one basket???
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GW has 1 turnover to our 8. They have 8 offensive rebounds to our 7
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The A10 and league tournaments need to reconsider their format. 3 games in 3 days does not produce good basketball for the players or fans.
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That LC24 turnover pretty much sums up today's effort.
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And right on cue, Lauren with a bad turnover. Going where?
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Turnovers now 10 to 1. Wow!
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Besides defensive rebounds and free throw shooting, our stat sheet is a disaster. Thank goodness GW is a poor shooting team, or this would be over.
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We have 2 fouls to give and instead of tight D going for the ball, we play 12 feet off of it. Put in Phillips to chase and foul, then take her out on offense.

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Instead, Layfield picks up two fouls and fouls out.
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What in God's name was Layfield doing? Just play "D"!!!
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The players are not the only ones out of it today. Green is in la-la land. She leaves Layfield in to chase the ball and foul, then gets mad when Layfield fouls out.
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Lauren was clearly behind the line, so should have been 3 shots. No protest from Green to look at the monitor.
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Hard to complain with 15-17 FT but man would love to have 17-17 and make this last 23 seconds interesting.
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Wow, what a terrible pass by Jenna. She gets Rollo's award unanimously today, but Green did not help her team either.
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Can't believe Cannatelli with only five shots today.
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Three games in three days in a,tourney setting is not unusual. If they don't make the NCAA tourney its a farce. 15-1 conference counts for something.
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Credit GW defense and pace. Blaming Green I don't get it.
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Lauren was clearly behind the line, so should have been 3 shots. No protest from Green to look at the monitor.
How could everybody miss that? It was quite obvious.
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I saw the same thing I saw at SLU - we played a team that wanted it more. We didn’t match their energy.

We also seemed to be a bit disorganized there with ~40 seconds to go as we went into foul/not foul mode.
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How could everybody miss that? It was quite obvious.
It was ruled NOT in the act of shooting, so monitor wasn’t necessary.
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Losing 2 out of last 3 games is not going to impress the committee on Sunday. Think this was there last game as A10 is one bid league.
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Credit GW defense and pace. Blaming Green I don't get it.
Blaming? I am criticizing big time. Read my posts near the end. Add to it playing Jenna and Lauren 80 straight minutes. What would have happened if you gave both of them a three minute rest in quarters two and three? Phillips would do little, but it would give us fresh legs, and we lost anyway. Lauren got off 4 shots and is not great at defense or rebounding, so what was the gain?

Where was the coaching staff on recognition of the double team on Jenna when she had the ball. How about at least making the players aware and running some plays off of it.

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Three games in three days in a,tourney setting is not unusual. If they don't make the NCAA tourney its a farce. 15-1 conference counts for something.
Not unusual but don't provide good basketball. 15 - 1 league is good....losing 2 of last 3 not good. Think we sit out this year.
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Green and players talking about "next game" in post-game presser.
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Blaming? I am criticizing big time. Read my posts near the end. Add to it playing Jenna and Lauren 80 straight minutes. What would have happened if you gave both of them a three minute rest in quarters two and three? Phillips would do little, but it would give us fresh legs, and we lost anyway. Lauren got off 4 shots and is not great at defense or rebounding, so what was the gain?

Where was the coaching staff on recognition of the double team on Jenna when she had the ball. How about at least making the players aware and running some plays off of it.

I think Green is a great coach, but not today.
I have no idea who you would sub in unless absolutely an emergency. We have no bench - especially in the backcourt.

The number that just astounds me is GDub with 1 - yes one - turnover. That is practically impossible unless the defense is so so soft. For the last few games we have been too passive. No fire in the belly. No fastbreak points in 2 games! Again, seems to me a number that is almost impossible.
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Green and players talking about "next game" in post-game presser.
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Fatigue I feel wasn't a,factor. These are well conditioned college athletes and it was a,slow paced game. I'd like to have seen an,attempt or two of a full court press to up the tempo.
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I’m feeding NIT also. Committee not prepared to have two A-10 teams. If Dayton does get in, it will be no greater than a 12 seed. Unfortunately Jenna did not have a first team A-10 player today. It will be a nervous week in Dayton until selection day.
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Question. Don't most coaches have an assistant tabulating actual minutes in play for each player? If they don't they should. That's including team time outs, free throw shooting, media timeouts (which seem to be an eternity anymore), injury pauses, ad nauseum....

One issue is total minutes played for sure. But the other issue is how much recovery time have you benefited from, and what is your history of extending yourself and still maintaining productivity on the court.
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Examine the minutes for the GW players Friday in their escape of GM. They were also extended. UD didn't lose because of fatigue.
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Examine the minutes for the GW players Friday in their escape of GM. They were also extended. UD didn't lose because of fatigue.
Get a grip Barney for a man who does play by play to not recognize the bigger picture that the flyers played short handed all season and doesn't' take that into account is unbelievable. If anyone should recognize fatigued players it should be you.

How many teams played with only 7 players for most of the season. When you are not hitting your shots and they are short its due to tired legs.

Fatigue was most certainly a part of the picture here. Low energy, lack of effort all part of being fatigued. These ladies score at a rapid pace when fully rested. The pace of the game was slow because UD didn't have the gas to push the pace. Nor a bench with players returning from injuries and not in game shape.

You go with what you are dealt, and for most of the year they were able to overcome the short bench. It catches up with you eventually.
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Wow that's quite a rip job. When a team loses why in many cases is lack of effort cited. They didn't hit shots is that lack of effort? Hmmmmm.
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GW was playing their third game of the week and played basically the same number of players today. Some of their studs logged heavy minutes too.

We got beat at Sloo, almost got beat by Richmond, and got beat by GW because we played soft and without a chip. The better team advanced today. The weakness with Dayton is we have no bench. Not in the sense that there arent some bodies to play, but in the sense that the talent on the bench sans Wilmoth might be the weakest in the league. Our first five stacks up pretty well in the A10 but when we get in foul trouble and have to go to the subs, we immediately lose ground. This is why Shauna cannot take Jenna out of th game unless she's in foul trouble. Or Layfield. We'd go down 10pts in 2 and a half minutes if she chose that option. Its suicide.

When a team has 1 TO against us, that means our defense was passive, not physical, and not dictating play. GW missed a lot of shots, but the Flyers never got into passing lanes and made players uncomfortable. We sat back and also got hurt on shot attempts.

Once again we let the opponent shoot a number of more shots (8) than we took ourselves. Against Richmond, the Spiders took 12 more shots.

In the A10 tourney, opponents took 20 more shots than we did. You cant win with stats like that. In two games we had 11 assists and 26 TOs. That is abysmal basketball fundamentals by any measure, but especially for an NCAA at-large caliber team. We are long past the point in this program where 11 assists and 26 TOs in a 2-game stretch is an acceptable bump in the road. That bridge was crossed long ago when we started making NCAA tournaments every season.

I just dont know why we have such an inability to protect the basketball in this program. Its been this way for over a decade. We hemorrhage unforced errors and TOs and play Santa Claus far too much.

That said, for this team to even be in at-large territory is a huge success. This a good team but not a great one. Ive said all season their margin for error was razor thin and success hinged on executing and staying in their lane. When they get out of it, like the last 10 days, Dayton is a marginal basketball team. When they stay in it, they are good enough to win a game in the NCAAs.

If Im putting paychecks on it, I think UD sneaks into the NCAA as a #11 seed. We did win the A10 outright by two full games. That counts for something. We did win 16 in a row. Even with the latest skid, we were getting the job done. Only one good win, but few bad losses either.

Whether we make the NCAA or NIT however, we are one-and-done unless we start cleaning the defensive glass, not fouling players taking HORSE shots with 2 seconds on the shot clock, and protecting the basketball.

Despite shooting an anemic 33% today, we still win if we just execute the fundamentals of basketball. Free throw shooting was about the only fundamental task did executed.

Before you start beating the opponent, you need to first stop beating yourself. Players with no license to take certain shots continue to take certain shots. Bigs missing point blank layups. Guards throwing entry passes into three defenders. Guards dribbling into three defenders on a 1-on-4 break. Post players fumbling decent entry passes or taking steps and traveling with no reason to be rushed.

Every team seems to have a bad stretch during the season. I think this is ours. But Im hoping we've gotten it out of our system and the tournament (of whatever kind) will breathe new life and a chance to make up for bowing out of an A10 tourney bracket that broke in our direction as well as you could have ever hoped for and we let it slip through our fingers.
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Wow that's quite a rip job. When a team loses why in many cases is lack of effort cited. They didn't hit shots is that lack of effort? Hmmmmm.
Yes it is. Largely a failure to work for a good shot. Anyone can jack em up. We didn't fight for ****s in close, we didn't fight to limit turnovers, and that what you get.
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Wow that's quite a rip job. When a team loses why in many cases is lack of effort cited. They didn't hit shots is that lack of effort? Hmmmmm.
Why are you saying lack of effort. I did not see one Flyer not trying. Jenna could barely hit the rim near the end she was so leg tired, but she still gave 100%. Don't imply it was lack of effort. That is way off base.
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Chris all you have to do is look at the last7 games or so. Was GW or any team playing 80% of their season with only 7 players? The last 7 games we were winded in the 4th quarter and almost lost our games in the 4th qtr.

It was widely discussed that this team would have a tough time in the tournament as they were showing signs of fatigue early on, so I am not sure why it comes as a surprise to you and Barney that this team is spent.

Sure signs of fatigue and tired legs is hitting the front of the rim which the flyers were doing on a regular basis especially in the 4th qtr.

We have talent on the bench, some are still recovering from injuries and the few that have come back are not game ready. Should see a tremendous change with Ward next year. Five star players don't suddenly lose it, if she had it then she needs to get back into game shape.

The SLU game was the precursor of what we saw in the tournament. Seven players logging 90% of the minutes for 90% of the season finally took its toll.

Jenna has had three worst games in her career three straight games. She and Lafield gave it all they had but when its on empty its on fumes.

As for coach Green her hands were tied, little to work with especially with back to back games.

Great season, just not the ending they were aiming for, no hardware...yet.
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The product of massive turnovers the past decade or so is due to our wanting to push the ball and play at a tempo greater than our ability. I would expect that to change with Coach Green but these are still Jabirs recruits and team.

We try to do things we are not totally comfortable at. Jabirs system while successful had warts and Green is dealing with some of those warts. Still all in all what she has accomplished in her two years is simply amazing.

If I remember hearing or reading correctly Jabir said the trade off of turnovers vs fast brake points was justifiable. Someone kept score on that so he wasn't too concerned as long as we scored more than what we gave up. Not his exact words but along that line.
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Jabir had three 1000 point scorers, Hoover,Mallot,Deane. The offensive firepower was there. You could play the higher turnover game. This Dayton team is not built like that. They really are looking out of sorts the last three to four games. It’ll be interesting to see if and when they play next, what the Flyers will look like
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Thinking back to non conference I wish they'd have won South Florida. I'd feel better about their NCAA tournament chances.
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Creme’s got an updated Bracketology and has the Flyers as a 9-seed. He’d really have to whiff on the Flyers if we’re not getting an invite.
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Jabir had three 1000 point scorers, Hoover,Mallot,Deane. The offensive firepower was there. You could play the higher turnover game. This Dayton team is not built like that. They really are looking out of sorts the last three to four games. It’ll be interesting to see if and when they play next, what the Flyers will look like
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Shauna has three 1000 point scorers too, LC, JB and Scaife will graduate having eclipsed that. We have plenty of "firepower". Turnovers, particularly unforced, passes for no purpose, are killers. When we get beat, by inferior teams they are usually causal as they were yesterday.
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Jabir had three 1000 point scorers, Hoover,Mallot,Deane. The offensive firepower was there. You could play the higher turnover game. This Dayton team is not built like that. They really are looking out of sorts the last three to four games. It’ll be interesting to see if and when they play next, what the Flyers will look like
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Those players were with Jabir 4 years while his turnover machine existed for all 13 years he coached.
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Thinking back to non conference I wish they'd have won South Florida. I'd feel better about their NCAA tournament chances.
I also feel we needed to win the GW game to secure an invite. We just don't have the name recognition (YET) to get in. Hope I'm wrong but just don't feel confident yet, and the seeding will not be kind if we do get in.
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I also feel we needed to win the GW game to secure an invite. We just don't have the name recognition (YET) to get in. Hope I'm wrong but just don't feel confident yet, and the seeding will not be kind if we do get in.
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I have to concur Avid. This Flyer team has no significant win this year...not their fault! That’s why winning the A-10 tournament and getting an automatic bid instead of at large bid was so important. The A-10 is not getting the recognition as in the past because the talent is way down...no real WNBA prospects as in prior years. It’s a one bid league at the present.Jenna, Cannateli, Scaife will have to pick their games up to a monster level to get even one win if picked to play in the Big Dance. I’m hopeful, but I don’t know if the committee will be. Dayton should consider getting out of the A-10 and taking their talents to a more competitive conference.
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GW blowing St Joe away by 20 in the fourth.
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GW blowing St Joe away by 20 in the fourth.
This is painful to watch. In a very weak A-10 and with the bracket decimated, we laid an egg. This title was on a platter for us and we just ****ed it away.

By the way, GDub had 10 turnovers against a very weak St Joe. They had one against us. Says a lot about our lack of defensive effectiveness yesterday.

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We are guaranteed a WNIT invite based on winning the Atlantic ten conference. Hope we get an at large bid.

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Guess GW win makes us look better.
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I have to concur Avid. This Flyer team has no significant win this year...not their fault! That’s why winning the A-10 tournament and getting an automatic bid instead of at large bid was so important. The A-10 is not getting the recognition as in the past because the talent is way down...no real WNBA prospects as in prior years. It’s a one bid league at the present.Jenna, Cannateli, Scaife will have to pick their games up to a monster level to get even one win if picked to play in the Big Dance. I’m hopeful, but I don’t know if the committee will be. Dayton should consider getting out of the A-10 and taking their talents to a more competitive conference.
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There is alot more to going to another league than UD considering it. If it were that simple we would have been long gone.
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The men's basketball team controls this so going to another league will only happen when they start winning the A-10 regularly in my opinion.

I think we are stuck with this league and we need to start winning both the regular season and tourney too. It would help put pressure on the administration to get us into a better conference.
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Interesting posts from GW's Kelli Prange and the apparent aftermath.

https://m.facebook.com/kelli.prange/...80078558847728

https://twitter.com/kelli_prange/sta...02870001451008

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Interesting posts from GW's Kelli Prange and the apparent aftermath.

https://m.facebook.com/kelli.prange/...80078558847728

https://twitter.com/kelli_prange/sta...02870001451008
I am not quite sure what to make of her rant. She mentioned not being honored on Senior Day. Yet, see this -

http://www.gwsports.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/022418aaa.hml

She also says if she had played more minutes against OSU in the tournament, they would have surely won. I would beg to disagree.

Got to be more to this than what we are seeing.
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My interpretation of the so-called Senior Day snub is the end of game substitution.

Prange subbed out with 1:53 left, Cummings and Tapias subbed out at 0:33 and Campbell subbed in at 0:33.

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I found her post interesting. I believe she posted as a means of closure to a senior year that found her being taken out of the starting lineup after a few games. This soured her likely on the entire situation. It was one more perceived slap.

It is also interesting she didn't start her last regular season home game. This is when all seniors should start.

I wish her luck and hopefully, she can move forward and have a great life. Some years later she may reflect differently.

I guess I kind of respect her honesty. I know she hurt the Flyers when she played. Glad to see her not going against us any more.

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It is also interesting she didn't start her last regular season home game. This is when all seniors should start.
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Yeah, I didn't notice that -- this has to be what she was referring to.
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This does not reflect on Coach Rizotti at all - maybe the two of them just didn't get along - sounds like there was also a lack of communication. Rarely do we hear from the player when situations like this occur so I give her credit for using Facebook to "unload" her frustrations. When she returned after the concussion I recall asking Rizotti if she will go back into the starting lineup and Rizotti said they have to monitor her minutes and it's best for her to come off the bench. I thought that was a strange answer for your 6'5 center not to start since you can gauge minutes in any manner.
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Just as with X Williams on our team, there is always more than meets the eye. Hopefully, X has more sense than her, and does not go on social media. Kids need to learn two lessons, the customer is always right, and the boss is always right.
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Sorry I have to take issue with that - the boss is NOT always right and Kelli waited until the season was over and she's well within her right to post her frustrations about the way she was NOT being used. If someone did indeed clean out her locker and dump her belongings on the floor as pictured on her twitter feed that's awful.
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Sorry I have to take issue with that - the boss is NOT always right and Kelli waited until the season was over and she's well within her right to post her frustrations about the way she was NOT being used. If someone did indeed clean out her locker and dump her belongings on the floor as pictured on her twitter feed that's awful.
You may be too young to have heard the concept. Of course the customer and the boss are not always literally right. It is said in a figurative sense, just like the "buck stops here/there". Even if the customer is wrong, you make it right for them, or lose their dollar. Even if think the boss/coach is wrong, you conform to their wishes, leave or pay the consequences. Exhibit A and B: Williams and Pierce, and C: this lady.
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So she should just keep it to herself - can't buy that and if it hurts their recruiting so be it.
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So she should just keep it to herself - can't buy that and if it hurts their recruiting so be it.
Not sure about keeping it to herself, but what good does blasting it all over the school and social media do? I guess if it made her feel good, go for it. Just remember, as they say, the stuff you post on the internet does not go away. She will never know how many interviews or jobs she does not get, because as I always saw in business, better safe than sorry when hiring.

The bigger point, that we do not know, is what occurred during the year between her and her coach, or other players. This did not start on senior night.

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I think it is the type of thing that might be a red flag to a potential employer when they check her social media profile, but again, maybe not. I am older and it's been a while since I hired, so things may be changing.
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Originally Posted by Barney Sentner View Post
maybe the two of them just didn't get along - sounds like there was also a lack of communication.
This just made me laugh a little since Prange is a Communication major.
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