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Old 01-20-2018, 08:42 PM
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Here is why AG lost the game for us today !

First half 4 min timeout, game tied at 38, AG has 3 of our top 5 scorers on the bench, I understand a few had a couple fouls, but u can replace them with guys who score 2 points a game, URI was in pace for 100 points at that point, averaging 2.5 points a min, they go on like a 8-0 or 10-0 run something like that why we have 3 guys out there scoring a total of like 6 points a game

Also 21 turnovers once again, absolutely no discipline, every game lazy passes, that's on the coach
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:46 PM
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First half 4 min timeout, game tied at 38, AG has 3 of our top 5 scorers on the bench, I understand a few had a couple fouls, but u can replace them with guys who score 2 points a game, URI was in pace for 100 points at that point, averaging 2.5 points a min, they go on like a 8-0 or 10-0 run something like that why we have 3 guys out there scoring a total of like 6 points a game

Also 21 turnovers once again, absolutely no discipline, every game lazy passes, that's on the coach
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You are correct - Landers, Josh, and Darrell were on the bench. Josh was gassed and both Darrell and Landers were in foul trouble. That was another aspect of the game that was a problem - they were calling some ticky-tack calls, but then let some slaps and reach-in fouls that went without a foul.
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Wow, I thought Coach Grant did an awesome job of managing guys minutes once they got 2nd could in first half.
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Josh was on the floor in that time period but had a bad sequence of about 4 bad offensive/defensive plays. See the play by play. he played 19 of the 20 minutes of the first half. http://daytonflyers.com/boxscore.asp...mbball&id=8689
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As I remember it, AG brought TL at this exact point and he proceeded to pick up foul #3 in the first defensive posssession.
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Isn't the message here that we need more talent so we can give players a break for a couple minutes rather than the message being that AG can't coach? Maybe if those guys weren't ineffective freshmen it wouldn't be a title of a thread.
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Isn't the message here that we need more talent so we can give players a break for a couple minutes rather than the message being that AG can't coach? Maybe if those guys weren't ineffective freshmen it wouldn't be a title of a thread.
Yeah, but that wouldn’t fit udscott’s narrative.
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Just a thought: the team with far more talent and experience imposed themselves over 40 minutes and wore down an inferior team.

URI did to Dayton today what Dayton did to inferior squads over the last 2-3 seasons -- impose their talent and experience and poise.

The roles are now reversed. URI would go 8-2 or 9-1 in a 10-game series with Dayton this year. We are throwing two true frosh -- Crutcher and Davis -- against one of the deepest most experienced backcourts in the country -- Matthews, Garrett, Robinson, and Terrell are all seniors. They alone average almost 50ppg. And unlike Mobley and Adams of SBU -- they actually play defense.

Men among boys. But one day our boys will be men. Josh is a grown man which is why he plays like one. He has the fewest holes in his game. The others are streaky or young and inexperienced. What we saw today is exactly what you get with the kind of roster we have -- competent one day, incompetent the next. To expect different is to ignore everyone's weaknesses and overvalue their strengths.
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Isn't the message here that we need more talent so we can give players a break for a couple minutes rather than the message being that AG can't coach? Maybe if those guys weren't ineffective freshmen it wouldn't be a title of a thread.
I don’t know about talent and experience, I just wish AG was a more consistent coach. I mean some nights he coaches the guys to play well and then you have days like yesterday where he coaches Darrell to have an off night shooting and turn it over 8 times. Why doesn’t he just always coach them to play well? Why doesn’t he just coach our freshman guards to be better than E.C. Matthews? You know the way that other coaches just coached their guards to be better than Scoochie and Kyle.

That was sarcasm.

This is the way it’s gonna be this year. Hopefully it gets better as the year goes on and it builds to the future. The offense is starting to come around a bit. I was somewhat encouraged that on a night when threes weren’t falling and Josh was having his way inside, guys weren’t throwing threes up indiscriminately, I think we shot 14. The defense is still horrible but I can see growth as a whole and that is what I am most interested in this season.
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Dafuq?

You need to find a new hobby or a good cardiologist that specializes in mental health.
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At some point you need to put some responsibility on the players. Yeah it’s AG’s responsibility to have them prepared but when they are just lazy that speaks more to them personally than AG. He can’t help that DD is lazy and and selfish. He can’t help that John Crosby has never committed to playing defense under any coach. He can’t help that he has a 6’7 forward who is too lazy to roll to the hoop and prefers to just slide to the 3 point line. He can’t help that we had two ridiculous lane violations in the past 2 games. It’s not like AG is missing this. I’m sure he’s telling them to work harder. But it’s pretty apparent most the guys on this team just don’t have that fire or killer instinct in them. There’s a reason why all these guys were just small role players at best last year. They’re all talented but they don’t have the committiment and effort level of scoochie, CC, KD, pollard, and Cunningham. Don’t get me wrong I know AG is responsible for everything that goes on out there but once the game starts he has no control of how much effort a guy is going to give. And that seems to be problem #1 right now.
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We helped to beat ourselves with way too many turnovers but were beaten by a better all around team with senior leadership. Our half court game is poor and Cunningham should not be out beyond the circle. We need to run, run, run.
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At some point you need to put some responsibility on the players. Yeah it’s AG’s responsibility to have them prepared but when they are just lazy that speaks more to them personally than AG.
We can debate AG's "system" all day long...but in the end...it boils down to the players when they aren't even carrying out that debatable "system".
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Excuses, Excuses, Excuses blame everyone but the coach who has 2 NCAA appearances in 10 years
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Our defense still is terrible. There is not one above average defensive player on the roster, but a bunch below average. Some of the guys we love most on offense, seem to take off plays on defense, and our help defense has improved only a little from game 1. Blockouts for rebounds, other than Cunningham most of the time, are nonexistent. Grant and his staff must take their share of the blame for this.

Our offense is like night and day from the early season. Other than an above average amount of turnovers, lately we play darn good offense. Grant and his staff must take their share of the credit for this.

We are about .500, right where I thought we would be, and our talent and inexperience allows us to be. Grant and his Staff have done a satisfactory job.
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Ineffective Junior too!

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Isn't the message here that we need more talent so we can give players a break for a couple minutes rather than the message being that AG can't coach? Maybe if those guys weren't ineffective freshmen it wouldn't be a title of a thread.
Mr. Crosby remains unbelievable unproductive. Our offense was sputtering, and then he completely stopped it. Those who think he's going to pull off a D Davis and blossom next year must also believe in the Easter Bunny. He needs to go. Three years of crazy bad is enough.
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I am really tired of these BS comments. I wrote a rant response, calmed down and deleted it.

There is a reason why URI is 15-3. If you think Grant could have done something to win the game yesterday, then you don't know the difference between college and CYO basketball. Each time you comment, you prove that point out.
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I am really tired of these BS comments. I wrote a rant response, calmed down and deleted it.

There is a reason why URI is 15-3. If you think Grant could have done something to win the game yesterday, then you don't know the difference between college and CYO basketball. Each time you comment, you prove that point out.
And he also thinks it’s reasonable to blame a single person in a TEAM sport. Very reasonable considering there’s 15 players who contribute during games or
practice and a coaching and training staff of the same size. But that would be dishing out the blame responsibly which is obviously a ridiculous theory
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Mr. Crosby remains unbelievable unproductive. Our offense was sputtering, and then he completely stopped it. Those who think he's going to pull off a D Davis and blossom next year must also believe in the Easter Bunny. He needs to go. Three years of crazy bad is enough.
Amen brother. The dagger yesterday happened at the under 12m timeout where we were down 7 with the ball. Good execution out of a timeout by our PG and we make this a 4/5 point game w/ 10m left. But....Out of the timeout on consecutive possessions...

Crosby misses a 3 on O.
Crosby doesn't box out Matthews and gives up an easy O rebound.
Crosby then fouls Matthews after the rebound and sends him to the line where he makes 2 FT.
Turnover by DD.
Missed URI shot.
Crosby misses another 3 on O.
URI makes an open 3 as a result of Crosby not properly rotating on D.

We go down 12 and that's all she wrote.

Why Crosby is ever shooting a 3 is beyond me, and his consistent lack of understanding how to play defense is infuriating. Not sure if anyone saw, but about 7m later Crosby got burnt again by Dowtin and gave up the layup and foul with abt 2:45 left. Cunningham got in his face abt his lack of D. The whistle resulted in a media timeout, and the two argued all the way back to the bench. Coaches had to get in between them, and as AG had the guys huddled around him discussing the next series, Crosby could still be seen yelling at his teammates, throwing a tantrum like a child. No Bueno
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When Crosby is in the game and has the ball, the offense comes to a screeching halt. So evident yesterday it made me sick every time it happened/he touched the ball. His defense is awful too. I hate to say it but he needs to be forced to transfer or told he won’t play in most games next year...
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There isnt a coach out there that could coach this team to the NCAA
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I'm not saying that, I'm talking about turnovers, substitution patterns, no offensive plan, no defensive plan, it's all NBA all the time is our game plan, im talking about why does Jordan Davis ride the bench sometimes for like 5-10 mins straight, I'm talking why does svoboda even dress ?, we gave up almost 90 yesterday and people are saying we played well r u f*****g serious, 90 ??
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I'm not saying that, I'm talking about turnovers, substitution patterns, no offensive plan, no defensive plan, it's all NBA all the time is our game plan, im talking about why does Jordan Davis ride the bench sometimes for like 5-10 mins straight, I'm talking why does svoboda even dress ?, we gave up almost 90 yesterday and people are saying we played well r u f*****g serious, 90 ??
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Who said that the team played well yesterday? I don't see anyone who said they played well. I see people bothered by 21 turnovers, getting outmuscled on the offensive glass and unable to defend. Continue your delusional rants!!!


Guys are riding the bench at times because Anthony knows no better way to wake them up to play harder. This team does not step up defensively Period. Just like Archie's first two years. I can tell you Grant is ****ed. I've seen it. When it comes to defense, the old adage about leading a horse to water applies. The last two year's Archie did not have to tell his team to play harder on defense. It was in their DNA.

Svoboda is playing only because he needs to rest players. Take the uniform off Svoboda and Joey Gruden is play minutes. Is that your coaching answer? Win with walk ons?

Again, please show us how to win games with your CYO coaching skills.
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Excuses, Excuses, Excuses blame everyone but the coach who has 2 NCAA appearances in 10 years
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This doesn't refute or defend your argument ... but here are actual facts: Anthony Grant has 3 NCAA appearances 9 previous season as head coach. That includes 3 conference titles and 2 NCAA appearances in his 3 years at VCU. In 6 years at Alabama, they went to the NCAA in 2012, the program's first appearance since 2006.
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There isnt a coach out there that could coach this team to the NCAA
I think most of the posters on this board would have been very surprised (me personally...astounded) had AG took this team to the dance this year. Even an NIT would have been a tremendous accomplishment. But udscott seems to have all the answers so instead of defended the job coach Grant has done - I’m waiting for what udscott would do differently. All i hear from him is ranting how bad AG is and how great AM was. But whatever AM accomplished here in his 6 years he p1ssed away in my opinion by only thinking of himself instead of the “dynasty” he said he was trying to create.

The jury is out on what will become of the AG era- but one thing is for sure - you’ll never have to question his integrity.
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Paralysis by analysis on this thread

We have to play freshmen a bunch of minutes. We will be inconsistent

Archie missed on Crosby, so we have no leader at PG. We have no upperclassmen with even a decent handle, let alone good

McElvene tragically passed, so we have no enforcer on defense in the paint

Blame Grant if you want, but it’s not fair. He started in May and couldn’t build a team. Next year will be telling. By year 3, we’ll know if he’s the right man for the program
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I think most of the posters on this board would have been very surprised (me personally...astounded) had AG took this team to the dance this year. Even an NIT would have been a tremendous accomplishment. But udscott seems to have all the answers so instead of defended the job coach Grant has done - I’m waiting for what udscott would do differently. All i hear from him is ranting how bad AG is and how great AM was. But whatever AM accomplished here in his 6 years he p1ssed away in my opinion by only thinking of himself instead of the “dynasty” he said he was trying to create.

The jury is out on what will become of the AG era- but one thing is for sure - you’ll never have to question his integrity.
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I've never once said how great AM was, AG has been average his whole coaching career, his offensive rankings have been average every year, he so far is below average at UD, but everyone wants to sit around 2-3 years and not blame him, then in 2-3 years everyone here will see I was right, has Butler took a step back in their coaching changes ? NO, Xavier ?NO, Ohio State ? NO, so why do we have to suck for 2-3 years and have every excuse known to man and it's not AG fault ??
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First half 4 min timeout, game tied at 38, AG has 3 of our top 5 scorers on the bench, I understand a few had a couple fouls, but u can replace them with guys who score 2 points a game, URI was in pace for 100 points at that point, averaging 2.5 points a min, they go on like a 8-0 or 10-0 run something like that why we have 3 guys out there scoring a total of like 6 points a game

Also 21 turnovers once again, absolutely no discipline, every game lazy passes, that's on the coach
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Seriously?

Let me get this right. A senior dominated team with a ton of talent comes in here and does what our team did a number of times the past two seasons to others.

To the "pit of misery" for you!
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Seriously?

Let me get this right. A senior dominated team with a ton of talent comes in here and does what our team did a number of times the past two seasons to others.

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I've never once said how great AM was, AG has been average his whole coaching career, his offensive rankings have been average every year, he so far is below average at UD, but everyone wants to sit around 2-3 years and not blame him, then in 2-3 years everyone here will see I was right, has Butler took a step back in their coaching changes ? NO, Xavier ?NO, Ohio State ? NO, so why do we have to suck for 2-3 years and have every excuse known to man and it's not AG fault ??
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Amen brother. The dagger yesterday happened at the under 12m timeout where we were down 7 with the ball. Good execution out of a timeout by our PG and we make this a 4/5 point game w/ 10m left. But....Out of the timeout on consecutive possessions...

Crosby misses a 3 on O.
Crosby doesn't box out Matthews and gives up an easy O rebound.
Crosby then fouls Matthews after the rebound and sends him to the line where he makes 2 FT.
Turnover by DD.
Missed URI shot.
Crosby misses another 3 on O.
URI makes an open 3 as a result of Crosby not properly rotating on D.

We go down 12 and that's all she wrote.

Why Crosby is ever shooting a 3 is beyond me, and his consistent lack of understanding how to play defense is infuriating. Not sure if anyone saw, but about 7m later Crosby got burnt again by Dowtin and gave up the layup and foul with abt 2:45 left. Cunningham got in his face abt his lack of D. The whistle resulted in a media timeout, and the two argued all the way back to the bench. Coaches had to get in between them, and as AG had the guys huddled around him discussing the next series, Crosby could still be seen yelling at his teammates, throwing a tantrum like a child. No Bueno
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When Crosby is in the game and has the ball, the offense comes to a screeching halt. So evident yesterday it made me sick every time it happened/he touched the ball. His defense is awful too. I hate to say it but he needs to be forced to transfer or told he won’t play in most games next year...

I agree, we should sub out Crosby and and DD, and sub in Scoochie and how about Jordan Siebert. Why doesn't AG see this? His bench is bursting with talent, AG just won't play them.

You sound like a guy complaining about 1 firefighter with 1 hose on the ground floor not being effective enough putting out a multi-floor high rise fire. I give him credit for his courage at trying to put it out at all. Is AG making all the right decisions? No. Would it make a lick of difference in the grand scheme of things? No. The building is burning and will continue to do so until reinforcements arrive. Not this year.
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I agree, we should sub out Crosby and and DD, and sub in Scoochie and how about Jordan Siebert. Why doesn't AG see this? His bench is bursting with talent, AG just won't play them.

You sound like a guy complaining about 1 firefighter with 1 hose on the ground floor not being effective enough putting out a multi-floor high rise fire. I give him credit for his courage at trying to put it out at all. Is AG making all the right decisions? No. Would it make a lick of difference in the grand scheme of things? No. The building is burning and will continue to do so until reinforcements arrive. Not this year.
Agreed. AG would play Crutcher 40 minutes if he could, but he can’t. We need some help from Crosby, but that’s unlikely to happen. Wouldn’t be surprised if Crosby isn’t with us next year.
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I totally blame AG for this loss. After all, he had 21 turnovers. The guy needs to work on his passing! He also needs to keep the opponent off the offensive glass. His game needs a lot of work.
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There isn't a coach out there that could coach this team to the NCAA
Wait til next year and Rhodey's Seniors are gone, and we will see how much of a genius Hurley is. If Grant and Hurley switched positions, the team's records would likely be the same. You can't coach up what isn't there. We will get there in time.
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Wait til next year and Rhodey's Seniors are gone, and we will see how much of a genius Hurley is.
If he is still there.
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When he was hired, Anthony Grant was the obvious choice for a lot of reasons:
1. Losing Archie stung...a lot. Anthony probably would never use UD as a stepping stone. He is one of us, he's not going leave us.
2. He was a fairly successful college basketball coach, doing very well at VCU and alright at Alabama. He had the credentials.
3. He has no regulatory issues. He's probably as clean as they come.
4. He brought the cache of the NBA, Billy Donovan and the Thunder. There is something to be said for that - in terms of knowledge and recruiting.

All of that being said, the way they are playing right now does not pass the eye test. I go to every game and I watch intently. Been a season ticket holder since the mid 90s. Something is missing that the last three coaches I thought generally brought - a toughness and grittiness. Rebounding and defense. I feel this team is soft mentally and physically. The problem is I don't know if it is a function of Coach Grant, the players or both. Kostos and Xeyrius are very very soft. Heck, outside of Trey and Josh and maybe Jalen, they all seem softish. I don't know, I hate to be hard on the players, I do. I am very willing to give the coach a year, this was probably a very difficult situation he was thrust into. I want Coach Grant to be very successful and I pray he will.

But the cold reality is that Dayton has every advantage in the A-10 and we should never be in a situation like this, never. Something has to change. It is not working.
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If he is still there.
I agree. Hurley has some talent back next year, but he is in the same position as Archie was, take the next good train out of town.
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When he was hired, Anthony Grant was the obvious choice for a lot of reasons:
1. Losing Archie stung...a lot. Anthony probably would never use UD as a stepping stone. He is one of us, he's not going leave us.
2. He was a fairly successful college basketball coach, doing very well at VCU and alright at Alabama. He had the credentials.
3. He has no regulatory issues. He's probably as clean as they come.
4. He brought the cache of the NBA, Billy Donovan and the Thunder. There is something to be said for that - in terms of knowledge and recruiting.

All of that being said, the way they are playing right now does not pass the eye test. I go to every game and I watch intently. Been a season ticket holder since the mid 90s. Something is missing that the last three coaches I thought generally brought - a toughness and grittiness. Rebounding and defense. I feel this team is soft mentally and physically. The problem is I don't know if it is a function of Coach Grant, the players or both. Kostos and Xeyrius are very very soft. Heck, outside of Trey and Josh and maybe Jalen, they all seem softish. I don't know, I hate to be hard on the players, I do. I am very willing to give the coach a year, this was probably a very difficult situation he was thrust into. I want Coach Grant to be very successful and I pray he will.

But the cold reality is that Dayton has every advantage in the A-10 and we should never be in a situation like this, never. Something has to change. It is not working.
This hits the point. It's obvious there is a broad uneasiness across the board with the current state of the program.
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I agree. Hurley has some talent back next year, but he is in the same position as Archie was, take the next good train out of town.
Hurley's best returning player is Jeff Dowtin, a 6'3" guard who will be a Jr. Other returnees are roll players on this years team. He has filled 3 sholarships for next season and has 1 remaining. None of the recruits are above 3 stars, two are 2 stars. They have a 6'10" red shirt freshman, Michael Tertsea from Nigeria, who may or may not be as good as Kostas.

In short, if Dan Hurley's stock goes up like Archie's did last season, especially if Rhode Island goes far into the NCAAT he can opt to go to a bigger name school or if he stays he will probably have to endure what AG is presently going through.
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I agree. Hurley has some talent back next year, but he is in the same position as Archie was, take the next good train out of town.
Based on URI’s current stats, they’re losing 5 of their top 7 scorers to graduation. It’ll be interesting to see how they do next year, and if Hurley is still the one pulling the strings.
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I feel this team is soft mentally and physically. The problem is I don't know if it is a function of Coach Grant, the players or both. Kostos and Xeyrius are very very soft. Heck, outside of Trey and Josh and maybe Jalen, they all seem softish..
Look at all the returning players. How many in the past are what you are looking for today?

Trey didn't have the opportunity and he, on the whole, hasn't been soft. Cunningham...didn't have much to go by last season...but didn't appear to be soft and isn't soft this year. I don't put any true freshman in this category as they are green.

Now...look at the rest of the roster. Are you surprised at what you are seeing? I am not saying that toughness in a coaching staff doesn't bring toughness to a team...but with guys that haven't played DI, guys that never played here, and returners that weren't Scooch, KD, KP, or CC...you have a recipe for what you are seeing. Your junior is a captain. That says something. You want a tough team...it is a combo of staff getting the point across and peer leaders that preach it and do as they say.
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The real worrisome part is they don't seem to be making much progress in handling the physical play..... The season is half over.... they need to be making strides forward by now....
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Amen brother. The dagger yesterday happened at the under 12m timeout where we were down 7 with the ball. Good execution out of a timeout by our PG and we make this a 4/5 point game w/ 10m left. But....Out of the timeout on consecutive possessions...

Crosby misses a 3 on O.
Crosby doesn't box out Matthews and gives up an easy O rebound.
Crosby then fouls Matthews after the rebound and sends him to the line where he makes 2 FT.
Turnover by DD.
Missed URI shot.
Crosby misses another 3 on O.
URI makes an open 3 as a result of Crosby not properly rotating on D.

We go down 12 and that's all she wrote.

Why Crosby is ever shooting a 3 is beyond me, and his consistent lack of understanding how to play defense is infuriating. Not sure if anyone saw, but about 7m later Crosby got burnt again by Dowtin and gave up the layup and foul with abt 2:45 left. Cunningham got in his face abt his lack of D. The whistle resulted in a media timeout, and the two argued all the way back to the bench. Coaches had to get in between them, and as AG had the guys huddled around him discussing the next series, Crosby could still be seen yelling at his teammates, throwing a tantrum like a child. No Bueno
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Originally Posted by big jordan View Post
Paralysis by analysis on this thread

We have to play freshmen a bunch of minutes. We will be inconsistent

Archie missed on Crosby, so we have no leader at PG. We have no upperclassmen with even a decent handle, let alone good

McElvene tragically passed, so we have no enforcer on defense in the paint

Blame Grant if you want, but it’s not fair. He started in May and couldn’t build a team. Next year will be telling. By year 3, we’ll know if he’s the right man for the program
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This is one of the few threads that have backed up their opinion with some substance. "Paralysis by Analysis"???

Don't confuse me with the facts???

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