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Old 09-27-2013, 10:10 AM
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VCU I Match

Big conference match tonight. VCU has had a really good pre-conference season. UD has had a tough challenging pre-conference season. We'll find out more about the 2013 Flyers tonight. We have to keep improving and we have to use our A-10 schedule to improve in a lot of areas. We have the talent. We've seen them play at a very high level at times during big-time matches. They have to learn to play at that level for a great percentage of the match.

VCU will be a challenge and an opportunity to take a big step forward. Stay focused. Keep the pressure on. Pass nails! GO FLYERS!
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:44 AM
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UD Timeout leading 19-17 in set 1. VCU is up 3-2 in blocks, but we are getting our hands on a lot of swings that are tooling out -- that's a timing thing that I think we will settle into in sets to come and we should be able to stick some blocks.
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UD takes Set 1 25-21.
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2nd set - TO UD with VCU up 25-24.
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VCU takes the 2nd set 28-26.

We had 4 blocks that set -- and needed every one of them -- for a total of 6 so far. Megan has been in 5 of the 6. It looks like VCU is keying on her offensively, so it's great she is stepping up on defense.
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Bummer losing 2nd set. Both teams saw their hitting percentage drop at the end of 2nd set.
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Duquesne up 2-0 over SLU winning the first two sets in 17 & 21. Not really a surprise, but the conference needs SLU to take the step back up if not this year, then next. They have the next most "name recognition" on the national level.
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Have to win the A-10 tourney now or its a very long spring and summer. Seems the girls lost total focus after wining the 3rd set so convincingly. Way too many errors in the 4th set.

This Dayton is a jeckyl hyde, when they are good they are very very good and when they are bad, well 6-7 on the season, losing first home match in 8 years. Consistency and execution not there.

Could be a long year if they don't come together and quickly.
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Tough loss. I felt coming into this match that the team would probably need to win the tournament to get into the ncaa tournament.

I do agree with you on the consistency. At times they are lights out and at other times they struggle. Teams are going to try to slow down megan campbell and when they do that the other players must make them pay

They play VCU next weekend. A win at VCU puts them in good position to win the A10 regular season title. A loss would make it very unlikely to win the title
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:01 PM
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This was a must win. You need to "hold serve" on your home floor and historically we are almost unbeatable at home. Right now, VCU should beat Dayton in Richmond -- its on their home court and they have no business losing that. So, we'll need some help along the way. Where we get it, who knows.

Really had to have this one. I feel for Affolder. Hes double-dosing the Just for Men. No one is going to feel sorry for us however. We will win matches like these when we get better. Its up to us.
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A very very close match. A point here or there was the difference. We out-pointed, out-hit, out-blocked, and out-served VCU - yet lost. Team played hard IMHOP. Thought Brown played well. VCU with very good libero.

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We got out-dug 77 to 67. You are not going to win many matches being on the short end of digs by a margin of 10.

FYI -- a team/player only gets credited with their digs if they WIN THE POINT. So you might see some great diving digs/passes, etc but they never see the stat line if you don't win the point and score off those passes.

Wish-wish-wish the NCAA would add the passing scores to the stat sheet. We are NOT terminating enough balls consistently, especially from our left side. But without the passing scores, it's hard to say why. We've got to find a way to improve our hitting efficiency from the left side. Someone's either got to step up big-time or we have to look at other options.

This is the kind of situation that worries me -- we start playing A-10 teams that are nowhere near NCAA tourney quality -- and everything starts to work. We begin to think problems are fixed because the quality of competition isn't there.

I for one am GLAD we play VCU again next weekend. It will be a tough challenge to go into their gym and come out with a win. It's not a must win to get to the tournament. We all know winning the A-10 Championship gets us there. But it's looking like our match with Duquesne will be the only other time we might be pushed, so it's a very important match. We out-scored VCU last night. That's a good place to start, but we have to close out the close sets.
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Great post, I didn't realize that you had to win the point to be credited with a dig.

We are young and inexperienced on the left outside and if the passing isn't good (don't know that for sure) it puts the outside hitters into bad situations.

For those of you who might not be sure how passing is scored:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Volleybal...Rating-0-3.htm

You score each pass......
0 for an overpass, reception error or setter forearm set.
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This is our system you can change how you rate the passes.

You add up the passing scores, then get the number of attempts and then divide the two. That is your passing percentage.

Example....Sally 3,3,1,2,3,3,0,3,3,1....22 total points
10 attempts. Her passing percentage is 2.20.

I remember Kelly saying that Janna was passing at 2.7 last year which means she was perfect most of the time.
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After crushing VCU in the 3rd set we had 6 errors in a row in the 4th set and a total of 10 pushing VCU way ahead of us and yet almost came back to win it 23-25. The ladies can definitely mount a comeback but dug themselves too deep a hole which gave VCU all the confidence and momentum going into the 5th set.

Post game comments from Matt; ".....was upset the team just shut down after 3rd set.....didn't feel VCU was the better team....we just gave it to them....) paraphrasing.

If the ladies didn't know or believe it before this match, the A-10 is not going to be a cakewalk. Wakeup call; well thought we had several of those this year and yet we still go into these funks.
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Great post, I didn't realize that you had to win the point to be credited with a dig.
I didn't know it either until a couple years ago when Mandy Robbie was doing color commentary on the video feeds, she brought it up during a match and said no credit if you don't win the point. (She also pointed out that it wasn't really fair, but that's how it was done. I'll point out the setters and hitters also take "hits" to their stats when the pass isn't good -- so both really good examples of how much this is a TEAM sport.)

Anyway, if you have ever looked at the line-by-line details of a match from the stat software, you realize the only stats that are "kept" are the winning point -- with the digs going to the team that wins the point. I just never noticed it until Mandy brought it up.
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The Red Scarce was mostly absent again. Other than the first couple soccer games this year, they have been weaksauce.
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Recovering from a deficit is not something the Flyers are doing good at achieving.

Non-Fifth-Set Differentials
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          0     1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9    10    11    12    13    14 
TRAIL: 17-18 15-24 11-24  7-22  5-20  2-19  1-18  1-11  0-10  0- 9  0- 5  0- 3  0- 2  0- 1      
PCT  : 0.486 0.385 0.314 0.241 0.200 0.095 0.053 0.083 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000      

LEADS: 17-18 21-14 21-10 19- 8 15- 5 14- 4 11- 2  9- 1  8- 0  6- 0  2- 0  2- 0  1- 0  1- 0  1- 0
PCT  : 0.486 0.600 0.677 0.704 0.750 0.778 0.846 0.900 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
In 35 sets when they are down by 2, they have only won 11 of them, or 31%. Going down 3 points makes it 24%, or in 1 in 4 sets. Last night against VCU, they couldn't overcome a 2 pt deficit. Of course, they also didn't blow a 2 pt lead. Basically, whoever got out in front, won the set. And the fifth set, VCU got out in front, it got tied at 10, then they went up 2 and kept it.
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UD has had some great comebacks; down 24-21 v Cincy and won; Down 14-11 v St Marys in 5th set and won. But they have also lost in the same fashion.

Rogers comes into VCU from a very successful DII team and don't miss a beat. Her team was focused and disciplined. Other than set 3 where they lost 25-14 they were in every set, stealing set two after Dayton had a 24-23 led; VCU outscores UD 5-2 to take the set.

And that is just this year, we lose Megan, Shayne and Mallory; don't see anyone able to fill their shoes....yet.

Recruiting needs to get in high gear.
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We "contained" VCUs best player - So 6'3" OH Kriskova. You are not going to STOP her -- it comes down to if you can contain her and we did that pretty well, except in the 4th set at the end when she took over.

If it was time to vote for A-10 POY today -- it's Kriskova by a mile. She is #5 in the country in Points/set at 5.66. She does everything, all 6 rotations very well. (ie she got 19 digs against us -- Libero's don't do that -- and we all know how "rare" it is to have a great hitter than can also play back row and pass.) We "limited" her to 4.2 points/set -- a point and a half below her average.

The two players that hurt us were their setter Aragao. She set very well and she blocks better than Jendryk -- who I think is the best blocking setter UD has ever had.

And VCU's MB Sykes hurt us. When we contained Kriskova Aragao and Sykes teamed up to score. Not many teams have contained Kriskova this year, so there probably wasn't a lot of film on that. Now we have that film and can study Aragao and Sykes in those situations and hopefully take that away next week.

As we have said before, we have the talent, it's a matter of how fast we can raise our ability to play at a high level for a greater percentage of a match. Can we consistently play at the high level of great teams? Can we find a way to terminate more out-of-system swings to score? Can we raise our passing skills so we take less out-of-system swings? Can we raise our ability to serve tough and reduce the number of service errors at the same time? And as good as our block is, can we take it to even higher levels? We will need to, to offset other areas of the court we are only average. It's our strength and we need it to be even better before A-10 Tourney time.
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Great post, I didn't realize that you had to win the point to be credited with a dig.
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I didn't know it either until a couple years ago when Mandy Robbie was doing color commentary on the video feeds, she brought it up during a match and said no credit if you don't win the point.
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I, too, remember Mandy Robbe saying that.

Mandy said you receive no credit if you don't win the point.

Well, no, that is not really how it works...

"Article 1. A dig (D) is awarded when a player passes the ball that
has been attacked by the opposition. Digs are given only when
players receive an attacked ball and it is kept in play, not when a ball is
brought up off a “put back” (blocked ball).

Philosophy. The pass or play of any ball that is attacked is awarded a
dig. The ball can be kept in play on the digger’s side of the net or can go
back to the opposition. In either case, a dig is awarded.

Note: if an attack, as defined in Section 1, occurs and the ball is kept in
play, then a player on the defending team receives a dig.

A.R. 1. team White attacks the ball. team blue player saves the
ball but (a) no one on team blue can keep the ball in play or (b) the
ball stays in play. Ruling: in (a), a dig is not awarded. in (b), team
blue player is awarded a dig.

A.R. 2. team White player No. 1 attacks the ball. the ball goes
off team blue player No. 1 and (a) is returned to team White and
passed by team White player No. 2 or (b) goes to team blue player
No. 2 who keeps the ball in play. Ruling: in (a), team blue player No.
1 is not awarded a block nor is team White player No. 2 awarded a
dig. a block is not considered an attack and therefore a player can-
not be given a dig off a block attempt. in (b), team blue player No.
1 is not awarded a block but team blue player No. 2 is awarded a
dig.

A.R. 3. team White player attacks the ball. team blue player digs
the ball (a) from which team blue proceeds to keep the ball in play
or (b) but returns it to team White. Ruling: in both cases, team blue
player receives a dig.

A.R. 4. team White’s setter aggressively sets or dumps the ball
over the net. team blue player passes the ball, keeping it in play.
Ruling: team White’s setter receives a “0 attack” while team blue
player is awarded a dig." From: 2013 NCAA Official Volleyball Statistics Rules

More from same: "(6)
A team’s total digs cannot exceed the number of “zero attacks” by its opponent occurring in the match. Each team has only a certain number of opportunities to record digs during the course of play. For instance, Team A attacks the ball 100 times during the match—35 result in kills and 10 in attack errors. This leaves 55 attack attempts (100-[35+10]) that can be dug by Team B. It is not likely that every ball will be dug, as some may be blocked back to Team A’s side by Team B and kept in play by Team A. (We refer to these as “put backs” as they do not count as blocks statistically.)"

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Wow...the stat keepers just went up on my respect scale.

I have always wondered if players get credit for a dig off a serve (ie serve receive?) It doesn't look like they do, but maybe it's under a different stat rule???
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Originally Posted by BeckysTXA View Post
Wow...the stat keepers just went up on my respect scale.

I have always wondered if players get credit for a dig off a serve (ie serve receive?) It doesn't look like they do, but maybe it's under a different stat rule???
Nope, successful serve reception is not considered a dig because a serve is not an attack. All digs come directly from attacks.

"Article 4. A serve reception is when a player attempts to pass a successful serve attempt. There are two possible outcomes when a player attempts to pass a served ball:
(1) A service reception error.
(2) A zero service reception. This occurs when a player continues play by successfully passing a served ball and the pass does not result in a kill or lead directly to a kill by a teammate. Note: Documentation on the work sheet is required only if the statistician is calculating serve reception percentage.

Article 5. A reception error (RE) is charged to a player:
(1) If the serve strikes the floor in the area of the player.
(2) If the player passes the serve but it cannot be kept in play by his or her team.
(3) If the player is called for a reception violation by the referee (e.g., lift, double hit).

Article 6. Reception errors should not be charged to an individual
when team reception errors (TRE) are charged. A team reception error is charged when:
(1) A serve falls between two players and the statistician cannot determine which player is responsible.
(2) The receiving team is out of rotation.

In both cases, the server receives an ace. The team reception error
should be noted on the work sheet and tabulated in the team totals on
the Box Score Form." From: 2013 NCAA Official Volleyball Statistics Rules

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