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Old 11-26-2017, 03:01 PM
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Auburn Game Thread

Biggest Non-Con Home Game this year... Hopefully we build on the fantastic 2nd Half last night against Akron... Auburn and Bruce "The Cheater" Pearl is 4-1 this year and they score in buckets (average 93.4 PPG). Hopefully we get off to a good start to this tough 2 game week (play at Miss St on Sunday Night).

Game is on Wednesday and is at 7 PM and will be shown on CBS Sports Network.

Starting Lineup:
G 1 Jared Harper 5’10” 170 SO Mableton, GA
G 2 Bryce Brown 6’3” 198 JR Stone Mountain, GA
G 5 Mustapha Heron 6’5” 218 SO Waterbury, CT
F 13 Desean Murray 6’3” 225 JR Stanley, NC
F 0 Horace Spencer 6’8” 225 JR Philadelphia, PA

Brown averages 19 PPG while Heron averages a little over 16 a night... Murray goes for 12 Points 9 rebounds a night.

Hopefully X and Trey are ready to go.

Get it done! Go UD!

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Auburn should open 1-2 point favorite.
As we can all surmise, our Flyers can't afford a mediocre half to put this game in the win column.
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:30 PM
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I'm shocked that Auburn is only favored by several points. These guys can really motor. They average 5 steals/game, 6 blocks/game, and score in bunches.

6 players averaging 9 to 19 points/game.

Shooting 50%/38/75. Shoot 25 threes/game. Averaging 10 more rebounds/game than their opponents.

They have one Senior who rarely sees the floor. The starters have only one 6'8" player, and the next tallest player is 6'5", as shown above. Much like Akron. But this is a better team than Akron.

We cannot let them get up double digits or it could get ugly.
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I'm shocked that Auburn is only favored by several points. These guys can really motor. They average 5 steals/game, 6 blocks/game, and score in bunches.

6 players averaging 9 to 19 points/game.

Shooting 50%/38/75. Shoot 25 threes/game. Averaging 10 more rebounds/game than their opponents.

They have one Senior who rarely sees the floor. The starters have only one 6'8" player, and the next tallest player is 6'5", as shown above. Much like Akron. But this is a better team than Akron.

We cannot let them get up double digits or it could get ugly.
My line is based on computer power ratings. If this game was playing
at Auburn, the line would be Auburn -9.
Anyway, one bad half and the Flyers are toast.
At least we head into this game on a positive note after that exhilaring
second half against the Zips.
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We need to play more Power5 teams.
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We need to play more Power5 teams.
And we need to play a few of the upper echelon. Our record against power 5 (really should be 6 including BE, which is often better than some of the 5), while strong, is largely built on the bottom tier like Ole Miss, Alabama, et al. Would like to see an occasional game vs Duke, UVa, NC, Ky, KS, Fla, Ucla, O, Nova, MSU, and the like even if we have to do 2 for 1 or worse.
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Yo Maddog...does LSU play upper echelon basketball?

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Would like to see an occasional game vs Duke, UVa, NC, Ky, KS, Fla, Ucla, O, Nova, MSU, and the like even if we have to do 2 for 1 or worse.
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Those schools don't do 2 for 1 deals. You show up at their arena to play or run into them in an exempt tournament or you don't play them at all. None of those schools are coming to UD Arena to play UD.
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Ud +3.5.
I think the Flyers were around a 3 pt underdog last year vs St Marys. Other than that, when was the last time we were underdogs at home?
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Originally Posted by CE80 View Post
I think the Flyers were around a 3 pt underdog last year vs St Marys. Other than that, when was the last time we were underdogs at home?
http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/database


Not sure if I read that page correctly, but it looks like the last time we were home underdogs was January 2017 vs. URI, we were +1.
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Last 30 times that UD was a home dog.


You selected Dayton against anyone during the regular season at home over 30 games as an underdog of 1 to 60 points.
Dayton is 15-15 overall, 15-14-1 ats, and 9-9-2 over/under in these games.
Date Away Score Home Score Result Home Spread ATS Total OU
Jan 6, 2017 RHODEI 64 DAYTN 67 W +1.0 W 137.5 U
Nov 19, 2016 STMAR 61 DAYTN 57 L +2.5 L 144.5 U
Jan 12, 2013 BUTLR 79 DAYTN 73 L +1.0 L 135.5 O
Jan 21, 2012 XAVIR 72 DAYTN 87 W +3.0 W 138.0 O
Jan 4, 2012 STL 72 DAYTN 79 W +3.5 W 124.0 O
Dec 7, 2011 ALA 62 DAYTN 74 W +5.0 W 126.0 O
Feb 27, 2011 XAVIR 66 DAYTN 62 L +3.0 L 136.5 U
Feb 19, 2011 DUQU 63 DAYTN 64 W +3.0 W 140.5 U
Feb 12, 2011 TEMPL 75 DAYTN 63 L +3.0 L 131.0 O
Feb 11, 2009 XAVIR 58 DAYTN 71 W +3.0 W 129.5 U
Nov 29, 2008 MARQ 75 DAYTN 89 W +10.0 W 135.0 O
Feb 24, 2008 XAVIR 57 DAYTN 51 L +4.5 L 131.0 U
Dec 29, 2007 PITT 55 DAYTN 80 W +2.5 W 135.0 P
Feb 24, 2007 XAVIR 75 DAYTN 67 L +5.5 L 140.5 O
Feb 18, 2007 UMASS 77 DAYTN 69 L +1.0 L 140.5 O
Jan 31, 2007 GWASH 69 DAYTN 84 W +1.5 W 139.0 O
Nov 24, 2006 LOUIS 64 DAYTN 68 W +5.0 W 143.0 U
Feb 26, 2005 GWASH 62 DAYTN 59 L +1.5 L 136.5 U
Dec 4, 2004 CINCY 65 DAYTN 55 L +7.5 L 133.0 U
Feb 22, 2003 XAVIR 73 DAYTN 72 L +1.0 P 145.0 P
Feb 17, 2000 TEMPL 64 DAYTN 58 L +5.5 L 0.0
Jan 11, 2000 XAVIR 72 DAYTN 76 W +1.0 W 0.0
Feb 14, 1999 GWASH 69 DAYTN 65 L +1.0 L 0.0
Jan 30, 1999 XAVIR 86 DAYTN 91 W +3.0 W 0.0
Jan 24, 1998 XAVIR 82 DAYTN 93 W +5.0 W 0.0
Nov 22, 1997 MIAOH 93 DAYTN 86 L +2.0 L 0.0
Feb 23, 1997 UMASS 67 DAYTN 69 W +5.0 W 0.0
Feb 4, 1997 STJOE 89 DAYTN 82 L +1.5 L 0.0
Jan 18, 1997 GWASH 59 DAYTN 38 L +2.5 L 0.0
Jan 7, 1997 XAVIR 91 DAYTN 98 W +8.5 W 0.0
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Line has moved to UD +4. Biggest home dog in 6 years. 5pt dog in Dec 2011 when Anthony Grant brought Alabama to UD arena.
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Originally Posted by CE80 View Post
I think the Flyers were around a 3 pt underdog last year vs St Marys. Other than that, when was the last time we were underdogs at home?
The below thread mentions 2 other sites with archived gambling odds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/...ical_database/



1. Site requires payment to view the information.

https://www.sportsinsights.com/sport...s-sports-data/




2. Site requires the ability to construct SQL database commands to get the information. That site looked to be a pretty big pain in the rear to use.

http://www.sdql.com
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Kostas with 2 fouls in 28 seconds. That is bad.

The charge call was crap.
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2 fouls in 28 sec would make even Kendall Pollard blush.
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I know Rollo will disagree, but offensive foul on Kostas 1st play of game huge. To me clear block and 1. Refs change games. Different momentum with call. Dayton still loses but call changed game along with Kostas' stupid 2nd quick foul, easy call.
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And then a sixth turnover bailed out by a questionable foul. We are playing at a pace much slower than Auburn. Very lethargic.
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Svoboda IS known as a 3-point threat, right? Just checking.
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Jordan Davis is just sitting there chilling on the bench for some reason I don't understand while nobody can hit a shot.
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Svoboda IS known as a 3-point threat, right? Just checking.
From what I've seen so far this season, Svoboda isn't a threat, period.
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Got the lead. This game has changed in just a couple of minutes. Just hope we don’t revert back to the team that began the game.
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Still don't like Crutcher gunning 3s early in shot clock. Now 5/22 for year or 22%.
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Our offense was great for about 10 minutes. Now we are back to chucking up threes.
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Hope that you mean “this year.” If he doesn’t play tonight he should put a red shirt on.
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Oakee is 9/16 from 3 on the season, but Dayton giving him back to back open looks ...
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Shooting 27% and 9 turnovers. Lucky to only be down 8.
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Difference in the game.

Auburn 6/13 from 3. Dayton 2/12 from 3. +12 points on about same shot attempts.

Possessions are even with Dayton advantage offensive rebounds and Auburn Turnovers.

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Okay Crutcher time to pass up the 3 for a while unless you're trying to join the club with Svoboda and Xman.
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Landers boxing out, that is a terrible call.
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Its pretty clear that Crosby is not really in any of AG's plans. Seems he only plays due to necessity at this point.
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Scott May played for Dayton??
Hey, at least he admitted that because of Dayton, Nova came within a hair of getting knocked out in the first round of the year they won the championship.
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Its pretty clear that Crosby is not really in any of AG's plans. Seems he only plays due to necessity at this point.
My bet is that Crutcher starts once 2nd semester starts. AG has to keep Crosby around for the whole year. If he starts Crutcher now Crosby might transfer at the end of 1st semester.
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I think the difference is Flyers missing a lot of shots from point blank range. Or so it seems to me.
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Horrible blockout and rebound by Kostas on that follow-up stuff. Get some fire dude. I think he falls asleep on that zone with Auburn never penetrating.
He was terrified of picking up a 3rd foul. He was simply trying not to touch anyone.
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Outrebounded 14-9 in the last ten minutes. For the half 10 turnovers and 28% and 2-14 from 3. As the announcer said, we have big problems on offense.
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DD had 10 pts after 10 minutes and zero in the last ten. When you do not run an offense it is too easy to guard him.
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Crutcher starts the 2nd half. AG is done with Crosby
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My bet is that Crutcher starts once 2nd semester starts. AG has to keep Crosby around for the whole year. If he starts Crutcher now Crosby might transfer at the end of 1st semester.
Crutcher has a kenpom offensive rating of 81 and Crosby 100.

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Landers keeping us in shouting distance. Didn’t think I’d see Josh get schooled like this tonight.
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Josh's 3rd was a foul, dipped the shoulder, sigh.
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Crutcher had a wide open layup and throws up some worthless floater.
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Crutcher had a wide open layup and throws up some worthless floater.
He is what, 155 pounds. Was afraid to go strong to the rim there. He has to, agree worthless floater.
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Dayton has been schooled this year on out-of-bounds plays after timeouts.
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Where is Jordan Davis?!?!?
Sitting on the bench for reasons I do not understand.
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Way too easy for Auburn.
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Sitting on the bench for reasons I do not understand.
I feel like AG forgets about people during games ..
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Kostas is a disaster tonight on both ends. Zero rebounds. Cunningham giving us rebounds, but no offense.
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If we are going to get killed, get Jordan Davis and Svoboda some playing time in addition to Kostas and Crutcher.
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I can't wait to check on the phase 2 arena updates in November 2018. This kind of effort isn't worth the 4 hour round trip. I can watch the rebuild from my couch.
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Darrell just got blocked because he refused to shoot a left handed layup. SMH. Went for the reverse right into the defender.
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Please give Crosby a chance (cannot believe I type these things). He is better defensively and a better rebounder.
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We are not a very good team.
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Svoboda and Crutcher need to learn to move their feet. Clear blocks and they put hands up and ask why. Easy calls.
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We are not a very good team.
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Crosby has not played at all the 2nd half. That is strange.
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100% foul on Kostas, don't argue. You went through him and hacked him.
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Cunningham is intimidated when he has a better athlete playing D on him. Of course does not help that we never get the ball inside.
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Crosby has not played at all the 2nd half. That is strange.
Crosby has played only 7 minutes?
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