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Dayton's average temp is roughly 63.4 degrees, I doubt temperatures are much of a factor.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer
Average temp in West Virginia is 63.9 degrees. I know that isn't like Tampa, but it sure beats Dayton, Omaha, or South Bend.
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But does it beat South Orange, New Jersey, home of Seton Hall? Granted, they have a very good program, but the average temperature is 52 degrees. Not exactly subtropical.
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Originally Posted by Medford
Dayton's average temp is roughly 63.4 degrees, I doubt temperatures are much of a factor.
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Sorry to be that negative guy who wants to correct everything, but we just had a temperature discussion during a 5 hour long social distancing alcohol infused bonfire with four good friends Saturday night. Depending upon which source you look at, you are a good 10 degrees high. But **** do I wish were right!
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Got mine from a google search which gave me the average high temp for each month, totaled them up, divided by 12. I guess I should say mine was the average high temp and kind of rough, but not too far off.
Take the total average temp at any given moment (so including lows) and Morgan Town is 52.25, Dayton 51.95.
Why am I even bothering to look this up? What the heck else am I gonna do?
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I recall when Adam Waleskowski was pondering his choices, some poster (maybe me) said he might want to go south to get out of the snow, and have you seen the girls at the southern schools? Sure enough FSU was his choice and the girls there are exceptional.
Hard to deny that Florida, Alabama, LSU, Texas, Arizona, California have the weather advantage over Nebraska, Indiana, Ohio, and lord knows how many others. But like someone said, it's not like we play the games outdoors.
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Having done no additional research, I wonder if this will be the primary flow of players as we approach the free-agent/one-free-transfer model; players establishing themselves at mid-majors and moving up a weight class.
It makes sense, and I think it's the outcome most expected, but until you see it happen, it's speculation. Between this migration of talent and the refusal of power conferences to play competition outside of their conference, it's hard to see how college basketball grows more parity, rather than separating off the bigger, more moneyed teams and conferences.
Not a complaint--I love where Dayton is positioned--just an observation.
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Tulsa grad transfer forward Jeriah Horne tells me that he will announce his college decision tomorrow, his birthday. Arkansas, Colorado, Dayton, Georgia, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Xavier and more have reached out in the last week.
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Originally Posted by flyer016
Having done no additional research, I wonder if this will be the primary flow of players as we approach the free-agent/one-free-transfer model; players establishing themselves at mid-majors and moving up a weight class.
It makes sense, and I think it's the outcome most expected, but until you see it happen, it's speculation. Between this migration of talent and the refusal of power conferences to play competition outside of their conference, it's hard to see how college basketball grows more parity, rather than separating off the bigger, more moneyed teams and conferences.
Not a complaint--I love where Dayton is positioned--just an observation.
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I think there will be an equally robust pipeline of highly ranked recruits who didn’t get a chance to play as much as they hoped they would at P5 conferences transferring to places like the A10.
I like our chances in the Transfer market now, and I think we will do just as well after the rule change.
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
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Tulsa grad transfer forward Jeriah Horne tells me that he will announce his college decision tomorrow, his birthday. Arkansas, Colorado, Dayton, Georgia, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Xavier and more have reached out in the last week.
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Horne started his career at Nebraska in the same class as Jordy if it hasn't been mentioned already.
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We have 3 open ships available (assuming Jalen's return) correct?
Interesting that we have no sophomores and only one junior. I'm not sure how much class balance actually matters, but as things stand currently we have none of it.
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I’m seeing a lot of transfers announcing their new schools. AG has missed on a few that purportedly he had reached out to if you believe Twitter.
I’m generally the type that is more worried about who you get vs. who you don’t get—primarily because I have neither the time nor the inclination to follow all this too closely. That said, there are some needs on the roster. Should I start getting nervous?
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Originally Posted by springborofan
I’m seeing a lot of transfers announcing their new schools. AG has missed on a few that purportedly he had reached out to if you believe Twitter.
I’m generally the type that is more worried about who you get vs. who you don’t get—primarily because I have neither the time nor the inclination to follow all this too closely. That said, there are some needs on the roster. Should I start getting nervous?
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I think we land one on Saturday
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
I think we land one on Saturday
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Go for broke. Give us your prediction on who we land on Saturday!
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Originally Posted by DallasFlyer
Go for broke. Give us your prediction on who we land on Saturday!
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Brandon Johnson's announcement is on Saturday... That's who I'm hoping for
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
Brandon Johnson's announcement is on Saturday... That's who I'm hoping for
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I agree. When you look at “fit” you see we need a 4 type as we currently have several guards and centers. Brandon would fit in very well with one of the top programs in the country.
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Originally Posted by TA111
I agree. When you look at “fit” you see we need a 4 type as we currently have several guards and centers. Brandon would fit in very well with one of the top programs in the country.
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Couldn't agree more. He'd slot into the lineup really well. You could probably mark him down for 25 minutes, 10 points and 6 boards a night, and as a result don't need to force Nwokeji or Blakney into action they're not ready for.
You can split the center spot between Tshimanga and Sissoko. If Nwokeji or Blakney pop, you could go small and play Johnson at the 5 (as it would appear he did a good deal of at WMU).
He'd be an ideal one-year fit, provide a lot of roster flexibility, give Nwokeji time to develop and allow the staff to recruit to the Obi position. Hope it works out.
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Originally Posted by flyer016
Having done no additional research, I wonder if this will be the primary flow of players as we approach the free-agent/one-free-transfer model; players establishing themselves at mid-majors and moving up a weight class.
It makes sense, and I think it's the outcome most expected, but until you see it happen, it's speculation. Between this migration of talent and the refusal of power conferences to play competition outside of their conference, it's hard to see how college basketball grows more parity, rather than separating off the bigger, more moneyed teams and conferences.
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I think it's mostly players moving down. The guys moving up get the attention on Twitter and other places but if you scan Verbal Commits Twitter it seems like most guys are moving down a level or two
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Originally Posted by springborofan
I’m seeing a lot of transfers announcing their new schools. AG has missed on a few that purportedly he had reached out to if you believe Twitter.
I’m generally the type that is more worried about who you get vs. who you don’t get—primarily because I have neither the time nor the inclination to follow all this too closely. That said, there are some needs on the roster. Should I start getting nervous?
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It's a numbers game with the way to transfer portal works now. You reach out to bunch and see who has interest.
AG can reach out to 50 transfers and as long as the couple slots open get filled it's all well that ends well
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
It's a numbers game with the way to transfer portal works now. You reach out to bunch and see who has interest.
AG can reach out to 50 transfers and as long as the couple slots open get filled it's all well that ends well
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As long as the couple slots get filled by the right players...
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Originally Posted by springborofan
As long as the couple slots get filled by the right players...
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Exactly.
-If the slot gets filled by another Ibi Watson? Thank you, sir, may I have another?
-If the slot gets filled by another Jordan Pierce? Been there; done that; no, thanks.
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Originally Posted by springborofan
I’m seeing a lot of transfers announcing their new schools. AG has missed on a few that purportedly he had reached out to if you believe Twitter.
I’m generally the type that is more worried about who you get vs. who you don’t get—primarily because I have neither the time nor the inclination to follow all this too closely. That said, there are some needs on the roster. Should I start getting nervous?
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No. It takes a cool hand Luke approach to stick to your draft board. Time is not a factor right now.
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Brandon Johnson's announcement is on Saturday... That's who I'm hoping for
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Me too! I looked up a couple of his box scores and in back to back games in Western Michigan wins over Miami of Ohio and Ball St. he went for 21 pts., 7 reb. and 7 for 10 from the line against Miami and 29 pts., 7 reb. and 4 for 6 from the line against Ball St. He was a very consistent rebounder game in and game out and that is exactly what we need because we have plenty of scorers!
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College basketball transfer rankings for 2020-21 and 2021-22
Graduate transfers eligible immediately
14. Brandon Johnson, 6-8, 200 pounds, PF, RS Jr., Western Michigan
Has continued to improve throughout his Western Michigan career, enjoying a breakout 2019-20 campaign: 15.4 points and 8.1 rebounds. His size and rebounding ability will be sought after.
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Michigan sophomore Colin Castleton will transfer.
6'11" from Daytona Beach. He averaged 3.1 points and 2.4 rebounds last season.
He's a former 4-star recruit but is skinny (210 lbs) and saw his playing time really tail off at the end of this year.
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Castleton is listed as both 6'10" and 6'11" and 210, 215 and 220 lbs. Whatever the real numbers, if he has good hands, footwork, some hops and a decent head, go get him.
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Brandon Johnson to Minnesota
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
Brandon Johnson to Minnesota
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He deleted the tweet but it still is up on instagram?
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Originally Posted by jack72
Castleton is listed as both 6'10" and 6'11" and 210, 215 and 220 lbs. Whatever the real numbers, if he has good hands, footwork, some hops and a decent head, go get him.
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Our last UM transfer has worked out pretty well. I’d say he’s worth a look.
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
He deleted the tweet but it still is up on instagram?
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He updated it to be a scroll of logos of the schools that are his finalists. You now see logos for UD, UC, Minnesota, and the rest.
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Castleton is from Florida so that should be AG's wheel shop
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It's official:
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Minnesota has landed Western Michigan grad transfer Brandon Johnson. Richard Pitino gonna have a revamped frontcourt.
The 6-foot-8 Johnson averaged 15 and 8 this past season.
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"I picked Minnesota because I think it's the best opportunity for me especially with them being in the Big Ten conference," Johnson said. "I think it's the best way to accomplish my dreams after this year."
Johnson, a 6-foot-8 versatile forward, reeled in a wide range of high major interest, but ultimately picked the Golden Gophers over Cincinnati and Dayton.
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I'll take a commit from Horne today
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Pickings getting slimmer. If there’s a rabbit out there, I’d sure like to see AG pull it out of his hat.
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
"I picked Minnesota because I think it's the best opportunity for me especially with them being in the Big Ten conference," Johnson said. "I think it's the best way to accomplish my dreams after this year."
Johnson, a 6-foot-8 versatile forward, reeled in a wide range of high major interest, but ultimately picked the Golden Gophers over Cincinnati and Dayton.
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". . . accomplish my dreams after this year." Sounds like he thinks he is one and done and in the NBA. We'll see.
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". . . accomplish my dreams after this year." Sounds like he thinks he is one and done and in the NBA. We'll see.
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He's a grad transfer. He's one and done regardless.
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". . . accomplish my dreams after this year." Sounds like he thinks he is one and done and in the NBA. We'll see.
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Huh? He's a Grad Transfer... He only has 1 more year left
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Unfortunately, despite all of our historic success of this past season, being in the A10 is a significant recruiting disadvantage. A lot of the grad transfers from low to mid-level D-1 schools seem more attracted to playing for P5 or high-level D-1 programs. Hopefully, CAG can still overcome this obstacle and bring in the right pieces for next year’s team.
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Originally Posted by Monster Man
Unfortunately, despite all of our historic success of this past season, being in the A10 is a significant recruiting disadvantage. A lot of the grad transfers from low to mid-level D-1 schools seem more attracted to playing for P5 or high-level D-1 programs. Hopefully, CAG can still overcome this obstacle and bring in the right pieces for next year’s team.
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I agree with this
If you look at the ESPN or Stadium lists of top grad transfers they're almost exclusively going to the Big East/Power 5/Gonzaga. San Diego St got an undersized guard who I believe was 11th
For big guys it's probably doubly hard given their scarcity.
The Duke, UNCs and UKs of the world are in on the transfer game now and I think that competition trickles down to UD.
Duke got a PF grad transfer from Columbia who was the 4th leading scorer on a team that went 10-18 in the Ivy League. The demand for big guys with any kinda of production is ridiculous
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While the ability to bring a player on campus has historically been huge for Dayton, the fact is that no one can bring anyone on campus. Our advantage now that must be leveraged is the fact that Dayton is coming off a historic season, rising to be a basketball power. Furthermore, Grant put a guy in position to win basically every national player of the year award and potentially be an NBA #1 pick. That's HUGE. We are in an enviable position. Come be the next Obi Toppin. That's a heck of a pitch.
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I recall @JonRothstein stating... "A year ago, 14 mid-major players who averaged in double-figures during the 18-19 season opted to grad transfer to power conferences. None averaged in double-figures last season."
I would love to see a stats on how lower level players, averaging in double figures, fare when going up to a mid-major conferences.
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Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel
I recall @JonRothstein stating... "A year ago, 14 mid-major players who averaged in double-figures during the 18-19 season opted to grad transfer to power conferences. None averaged in double-figures last season."
I would love to see a stats on how lower level players, averaging in double figures, fare when going up to a mid-major conferences.
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Rodney Chatman's numbers went WAY down from his numbers at Chattanooga.
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Rodney Chatman's numbers went WAY down from his numbers at Chattanooga.
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His role changed with Jalen in the backcourt with him.
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Not being able to bring them to campus is killing us..
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As the days click by, this is what crosses my mind.
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Originally Posted by Monster Man
Unfortunately, despite all of our historic success of this past season, being in the A10 is a significant recruiting disadvantage. A lot of the grad transfers from low to mid-level D-1 schools seem more attracted to playing for P5 or high-level D-1 programs. Hopefully, CAG can still overcome this obstacle and bring in the right pieces for next year’s team.
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Exactly. He would rather play for the 12th place team in the Big 10 than the #3 team in the country simply because they are in the Big 10.
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Bottom line is we are still in the A10.
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Bottom line is we are still in the A10.
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Shhhh - Don’t tell that to Jalen, Ibi and company
Plenty of good players out there that aren’t too good for the A10 and will better fit the culture here
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Exactly. He would rather play for the 12th place team in the Big 10 than the #3 team in the country simply because they are in the Big 10.
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Oh, I trust AG implicitly. I just get so disgusted with the people who worship at the altar of the P5, even to the point of committing to the 12th-best team in the B1G over the 3rd-best team in the country. I guess he doesn’t give a 💩 about winning. And, if that’s the case, then I don’t want him here, anyway.
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Alonzo Gaffney’s professional career plan just went south. He has entered his name in the NCAA transfer portal. Great decision, he was a former Top 50 player and has a lot of potential.
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Originally Posted by Monster Man
Alonzo Gaffney’s professional career plan just went south. He has entered his name in the NCAA transfer portal. Great decision, he was a former Top 50 player and has a lot of potential.
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Originally from Cleveland and the staff has had success in that part of the state.
Gaffney played summer ball for OBC at one point which was Cohill's summer team so their paths might have crossed
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
Originally from Cleveland and the staff has had success in that part of the state.
Gaffney played summer ball for OBC at one point which was Cohill's summer team so their paths might have crossed
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Would Gaffney have to sit out a year if they don't change the current transfer rule?
He is 6'9" and rail thin at 198lbs. Maybe he could hit the weights and bulk up like Obi did and tear up the A-10 in 2021-2022! He is listed in verbal commits.com as a four star. His you tube videos show that he likes to dunk and has a good outside shot. Maybe he will see that Jordan Sibert's decision to come to the University of Dayton triggered an elite eight run!
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Just remember when our back was to the wall, it was late summer and we had no point guard. AG brought in Crutcher and then put the icing on the cake with a skinny kid who had academic needs and redshirted. Need I say more?
Trust AG. If he really wanted them, he would have gotten them.
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Just remember when our back was to the wall, it was late summer and we had no point guard. AG brought in Crutcher and then put the icing on the cake with a skinny kid who had academic needs and redshirted. Need I say more?
Trust AG. If he really wanted them, he would have gotten them.
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I don't recall when Obi committed but I'm pretty sure Jalen committed in mid-May, far from late summer.
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^ that is true, but Mid-May is definitely late recruiting wise, as most of these kids start at UD during the 2nd summer session, which is Mid-June (?)
One thing we haven't seen yet, and this offseason is going to be different, but there haven't been a rash of coaching firings or promotions yet, typically that would happen over the next 2 weeks, who knows what that offseason is like, but the change in coaches typically brings in a rash of transfers or de-commitments from those schools losing a coach for one reason or another. Had Matt McCall stayed at UTC (?) rather than leave for UMass, Crutcher is likely tearing things up down there.
The thing I don't get, is that CAG has proven he's a really good developer of big men. You can't deny the development of Horford, Noah & Obi. The most Richard Pitino has proven is to be really good at being the son of Rick.
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I think that there are two factors in action. The first is the few coaching changes that have happened so far .. . I agree with Medford that we may see some movements in the next two weeks.
I think we may also be seeing that our cupboard is not bare, and that there is some competition for immediate and substantive playing time. CAG would be honest with transfers that they will have to "earn" time. Transfers may be looking for a situation where they are really really needed and can showcase. If I were a grad transfer, you bet that is what I would be looking for . . . .
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Originally Posted by Medford
^ that is true, but Mid-May is definitely late recruiting wise, as most of these kids start at UD during the 2nd summer session, which is Mid-June (?)
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Yes and no. It is late for a incoming freshman unless there was a coaching change, like with McCall at UTC. Then mid May is normal for a player in JC's case.
Also, the transfer market is heating up much earlier because of shutdown. Many players entered the transfer portal before they would have been able to if the season was played out and are now finding new schools when they would normally be announcing they are transferring.
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Originally Posted by GoFlyer
I think that there are two factors in action. The first is the few coaching changes that have happened so far .. . I agree with Medford that we may see some movements in the next two weeks.
I think we may also be seeing that our cupboard is not bare, and that there is some competition for immediate and substantive playing time. CAG would be honest with transfers that they will have to "earn" time. Transfers may be looking for a situation where they are really really needed and can showcase. If I were a grad transfer, you bet that is what I would be looking for . . . .
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IIRC, off the top of my head Gavrilovic, Sanford, Sibert, Price, Pierre, Crutcher, Toppin, Policelli, Watson, and Chatman committed in the late April-Mid May range. Derenbecker, Bass, Cooke, Cunningham, Kostas, and Jordy were all June or later.
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Originally Posted by Don
I don't recall when Obi committed but I'm pretty sure Jalen committed in mid-May, far from late summer.
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isn't the point:
trust Coach Grant??
when he committed, Obi was NOT anywhere
near what he would become, yes?....
regardless of when they committed,
the point is trust our coach....
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Long way to go. I remember when AG targeted a guy by the name of James Scott from Kennesaw State who ended up at Temple (Did nothing there) before ending up with Ibi
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows
It's official:
Jeff Goodman
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Minnesota has landed Western Michigan grad transfer Brandon Johnson. Richard Pitino gonna have a revamped frontcourt.
The 6-foot-8 Johnson averaged 15 and 8 this past season.
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His stats are almost the same as X. Williams, who was hardly a world beater outside of the MAC. The main difference is that X actually played winning ball while Johnson’s team won a whopping 6 conference games. I’d wager he’s not a difference maker in the Big10.
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Originally Posted by Monster Man
Unfortunately, despite all of our historic success of this past season, being in the A10 is a significant recruiting disadvantage. A lot of the grad transfers from low to mid-level D-1 schools seem more attracted to playing for P5 or high-level D-1 programs. Hopefully, CAG can still overcome this obstacle and bring in the right pieces for next year’s team.
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Correct, the A10 is a boat anchor around our neck, and will be for some time, especially as it pertains to recruiting HS seniors and quality transfers. Berine and the A10 teams know we want to leave and it's in their best interest not to help us in any way - they need us. We are on our own. We need to win, win, win, until the BE asks us in. Period. There are no other options.
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Would Gaffney have to sit out a year if they don't change the current transfer rule?
He is 6'9" and rail thin at 198lbs. Maybe he could hit the weights and bulk up like Obi did and tear up the A-10 in 2021-2022! He is listed in verbal commits.com as a four star. His you tube videos show that he likes to dunk and has a good outside shot. Maybe he will see that Jordan Sibert's decision to come to the University of Dayton triggered an elite eight run!
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Sit one play 3 without a waiver
Didn't produce at OSU but his junior year before he went to Brewster he was a potential McDonald's AA
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Does not look like UD is offering Matt Haarms. His style of a very tall post up only, may not fit Grant's style. He will announce his final schools Sat.
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Long way to go. I remember when AG targeted a guy by the name of James Scott from Kennesaw State who ended up at Temple (Did nothing there) before ending up with Ibi
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I remember who we got..
how we got there is simply irrelevant to me...
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Crazy how much of a turnstile college basketball has become, even for a good program like ours. Obviously, having AM leave and CAG come in had a lot to do with it.
Left program:
Jordan Pierce - transferred out
Kostas - left for draft
Svoboda - transferred out
Jordan Davis - transferred out
Matos - transferred out
Transferred into program:
Ibi - transferred in
Chapman - transferred in
Jordy - transferred in
Only one in the senior class that was with UD from the start and did not leave...
Jalen Crutcher
(And Crutcher decommitted from Chattanooga if I am not mistaken...)
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". . . accomplish my dreams after this year." Sounds like he thinks he is one and done and in the NBA. We'll see.
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Yeah, not like we're going to have a lottery pick after this year or something.
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Would Gaffney have to sit out a year if they don't change the current transfer rule?
He is 6'9" and rail thin at 198lbs. Maybe he could hit the weights and bulk up like Obi did and tear up the A-10 in 2021-2022! He is listed in verbal commits.com as a four star. His you tube videos show that he likes to dunk and has a good outside shot. Maybe he will see that Jordan Sibert's decision to come to the University of Dayton triggered an elite eight run!
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Or maybe he will see that CAG and the staff took another guy who was 6’8” and rail thin, who liked to dunk and had a good outside shot, and helped him become a lottery pick. As long as he wants to be part of a TEAM...
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Crazy how much of a turnstile college basketball has become, even for a good program like ours. Obviously, having AM leave and CAG come in had a lot to do with it.
Left program:
Jordan Pierce - transferred out
Kostas - left for draft
Svoboda - transferred out
Jordan Davis - transferred out
Matos - transferred out
Transferred into program:
Ibi - transferred in
Chapman - transferred in
Jordy - transferred in
Only one in the senior class that was with UD from the start and did not leave...
Jalen Crutcher
(And Crutcher decommitted from Chattanooga if I am not mistaken...)
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You are not mistaken. But, a couple more points, since you brought up the transition from AM to AG:
- Wright and Carter decommitted, so if we’re going to include Clutch in the discussion, we need to include those two, too (to?); and
- Matos was an AG recruit as a JUCO transfer, so he’s technically on both the “transferred in” list and the “transferred out” list.
Just dotting “i”s and crossing “t”s (or was that...?).
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Rodney Chatman's numbers went WAY down from his numbers at Chattanooga.
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while his defense became stellar
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Originally Posted by T-Bone 84
You are not mistaken. But, a couple more points, since you brought up the transition from AM to AG:
- Wright and Carter decommitted, so if we’re going to include Clutch in the discussion, we need to include those two, too (to?); and
- Matos was an AG recruit as a JUCO transfer, so he’s technically on both the “transferred in” list and the “transferred out” list.
Just dotting “i”s and crossing “t”s (or was that...?).
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did X and Crosby leave when we got
Coach Grant also?
not immediately, but they transferred also,
if memory serves me...
is that not right?
actually X transferred out of the team
mentally the game he was joking and laughing
on the bench when we were down by around
20 points... IMO
crossing the t's and dotting the i's
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I do believe that Rodney is a very good defensive player but do we overstate it a bit on this board? I've read on this board that AG has said he is the best defensive player he has ever coached (do we actually have the source for this quote) yet he didn't even make the A10 All Defensive team. I don't want to take away what he brings to this team because it is important, I'm just not sure it's as overwhelming as this board would make you believe.
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I think the voters had an overload of Obi and AG sweeping the awards. And also too many posters called him Chapman instead of Chatman , so they did not know who he was.
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I share the feelings of those that feel uneasy with so many transfers being announced, but with the transfer portal overflowing with 40/day hopefuls, my choice would be to hold on to those 3 scholarships and not panic. We could still have bushels of systemic changes coming which could lead to some wildly desirable pickups. We are not desperate.
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I do believe that Rodney is a very good defensive player but do we overstate it a bit on this board? I've read on this board that AG has said he is the best defensive player he has ever coached (do we actually have the source for this quote) yet he didn't even make the A10 All Defensive team. I don't want to take away what he brings to this team because it is important, I'm just not sure it's as overwhelming as this board would make you believe.
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Those awards tend to overvalue stats like blocks and steals. Chatman shut down Fatts Russell twice but only had one steal in those games to show for it. Kyle Davis had the same issue.
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I do believe that Rodney is a very good defensive player but do we overstate it a bit on this board? I've read on this board that AG has said he is the best defensive player he has ever coached (do we actually have the source for this quote) yet he didn't even make the A10 All Defensive team. I don't want to take away what he brings to this team because it is important, I'm just not sure it's as overwhelming as this board would make you believe.
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The quote came from Anthony Solomon before the season. Rodney is very, very quick, but he did get in foul trouble by using hi hands too much this year.
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I’m not “desperate”. Not in the slightest. I am just the slightest bit uneasy, though, with no “proven” players over 6’5” on the roster. Jordy had some good moments last year, but he needs to prove he can play more than 20 minutes without fouling out. And, while Mo and Zimi have had ample opportunity for practice time, they have no game action at the collegiate level. That’s the extent of our frontcourt depth.
I’ll put Clutch, Rodney, and Ibi against any other perimeter three-some in the A-10, and possibly the country. I believe Dwayne is due for a breakout season, and I think Lukas, Koby, and RJ will be solid contributors as early as next year. But, in the words of the late John Wooden, you can’t coach a guy to be tall, and every one of these last 7 players (out of the 10 we have on the roster at this point) is 6’6” or shorter. So, yes, I am a bit uneasy.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer
I think the voters had an overload of Obi and AG sweeping the awards. And also too many posters called him Chapman instead of Chatman , so they did not know who he was.
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04-11-2020, 11:46 AM
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04-11-2020, 01:54 PM
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Apr 10
Michigan transfer Colin Castleton told
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he heard from 30+ programs since entering the portal. Dayton, Cincinnati, Xavier, become the newest programs involved with the promising big man. Who else is involved? | Story: https://stockrisers.com/2020/04/10/m...s-recruitment/
Just 12 hours of his name being into the portal, he heard from South Carolina, Texas A&M, Notre Dame, Stanford, Virginia Tech, amongst many others, he told Stockrisers.com. The list would grow as the day went on, hearing from 20+ mid-majors and even more coaches continued to reach out to the major-upside big.
Dayton, Cincinnati, UCF, Xavier and Wichita State would join the list of potential suitors, adding onto his list of 35+ programs to reach out. “Things are still open, I’ll probably cut some schools soon,” he said.
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04-11-2020, 02:06 PM
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without divulging anything as far as sources,
does anyone have an idea:
what are our, say, top 4 or 5
transfers now...
anyidea or opinions?...
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who are we top targeting, if any?
what about that young man
from Ohio State, possible or no...
thanks!
Go Flyers!!
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04-11-2020, 02:52 PM
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From what I can find on Twitter. Granted there's a lot I'm sure going on that isn't on social media
PF/C Rapolas Ivanauskas from Colgate as a grad transfer
C Colin Castleton from Michigan as a sit one play two
Combo Forward Dillon Jones from Sunrise Christian in Kansas as a high school recruit
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04-13-2020, 03:14 PM
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The list of programs continues to grow for Michigan transfer Colin Castleton. He told
@Stockrisers
that Florida’s Mike White and NC State’s Kevin Keatts are the newest coaches to reach out.
40+ suitors involved. I expect things to be cut down soon.
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04-13-2020, 03:55 PM
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Something to keep an eye on: both Coach Farrell and the UD Twitter page just recently followed OSU Freshman Transfer Alonzo Gaffney.
6'9" PF... Top 50 Recruit who originally played at Garfield Heights but he played his last year at Brewster Academy in NH.
Little bit of a headcase supposedly but talent wise he's on another level.
Would be interesting
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