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Old 01-06-2017, 10:48 PM
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ESPN Doesn't Know The Flyers Exist

On the halftime show, Seth Greenberg and the other dodo were talking about mid majors. SG said there are some high majors in mid major conferences and mentioned Wichita St. and Gonzaga. Then SG rattled off the names of "mid majors" who easily could move into the higher tier -- St. Mary's, Middle Tennessee St., Valporaiso, Akron, URI, and a couple others. No mention of the Flyers in either category. Huh?
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:19 PM
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I am sure Rhody fans are lamenting the fact they were labeled mid major.
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:20 PM
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As soon as Seth started talking, I put it on mute and went to the bathroom. That provided more value than listening to him.
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I opined about Greenburg in the other thread about him; but honestly, half the Dayton Metro Area, or at-least the Tri State, and Central Ohio, barely know UD exist.

Granted this is Seth's and ESPN's line of work, but what do you expect, when the administration at UD partially hangs it hate on the idea of bringing the social marketplace together with UD basketball, via, no-less, the all mighty Mandarin Chinese Radio.

They won't promote locally or regionally, but they love themselves some Mandarin Chinese Radio. That ought to bring the college basketball world to its knees...incredible!!!

So, forgive me for not being in shock about the deficit of UDism with either Seth Greenburg or ESPN...just saying. The A10 is the conference famous for producing VCU. And before that Xavier, Temple, etc. It's kind of like we used to have a player by the name of "The Ohio State Transfer"; and before that we had a player by the name of "The Georgetown Transfer." Those names were probably in the NCAA tournament game programs; and maybe in the scorers book...TTTTem up Rollo.

UD could win the National Championship two years in a row, and CBS and ESPN will always see them as the upstart Cinderella Dayton flyers...out of the pesky Atlantic 10.

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Moving on from the idea that the UD admin needs to promote us for the basketball world to read the RPI and notice the NCAAT wins. . .

I was ****ed off last week when the talking heads on CBS spent 10 minutes talking about the cream of the A10 crop and never mentioned a single UD player or coach. And then this week the same thing. They'll talk at length about RI and St. Weldaventure but not the team that keeps beating them both. Without 3 of our best players (Steve, Cooke, Cunningham). Oh, and who is it that was the preseason pick to be right around the top of the conference? WTF.

How about we win the dang conference and then tell them shove it in their ear?
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Moving on from the idea that the UD admin needs to promote us for the basketball world to read the RPI and notice the NCAAT wins. . .

I was ****ed off last week when the talking heads on CBS spent 10 minutes talking about the cream of the A10 crop and never mentioned a single UD player or coach. And then this week the same thing. They'll talk at length about RI and St. Weldaventure but not the team that keeps beating them both. Without 3 of our best players (Steve, Cooke, Cunningham). Oh, and who is it that was the preseason pick to be right around the top of the conference? WTF.

How about we win the dang conference and then tell them shove it in their ear?
Just be glad you aren't John Bedell......
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Gazoo, you don't have to move-on from it, UD has made sure you don't have to help it along, the have that covered.

Brob, I'm assuming you are referring to the tis and bedell hour following saint bonnies game, when no one called the show for first 30-40 minutes.

If the greater metro area was at-all connected with UD basketball, that show would never have a line available. It would only take 25 caller's to flood program all night long. Has 1290 ever really promoted the post game show? The answer is no. It's not so much a call in show, as it is the same ten people over and over again.

Others would call in, or come to the mic, but Bedell is like the post game call in-show Nazzi. And between he and tizzy, they have combined UD basketball knowledge all the way back to Nirvana, Tiffany, and New Kids...and that's a huge stretch on my part, as I doubt they go back that far.

Somebody get these fellas a copy of Ritter Collett's "The Flyers".

With that said, I am confident that Bedell is ESPN material. And I say that sincerely.

Bring back Norm Grevey.

Back to you BROB over in Columbus where it's wall to wall knowledge of Dayton Flyers mere existence.

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They clearly defined high major vs mid

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On the halftime show, Seth Greenberg and the other dodo were talking about mid majors. SG said there are some high majors in mid major conferences and mentioned Wichita St. and Gonzaga. Then SG rattled off the names of "mid majors" who easily could move into the higher tier -- St. Mary's, Middle Tennessee St., Valporaiso, Akron, URI, and a couple others. No mention of the Flyers in either category. Huh?
and we fall in to high major-- a team in a mid major conference that comports itself like a high major, i.e, flys charter, has first class facilities, private plane for recruiting, etc. No need to be so thin skinned.
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ESPN knows who we are

The ESPN organization certainly knows who we are. Just look at the pre-season special tournaments we consistently get invited to. Sweet deal for us.
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Originally Posted by Beatty Town Coach View Post
Gazoo, you don't have to move-on from it, UD has made sure you don't have to help it along, the have that covered.

Brob, I'm assuming you are referring to the tis and bedell hour following saint bonnies game, when no one called the show for first 30-40 minutes.

If the greater metro area was at-all connected with UD basketball, that show would never have a line available. It would only take 25 caller's to flood program all night long. Has 1290 ever really promoted the post game show? The answer is no. It's not so much a call in show, as it is the same ten people over and over again.

Others would call in, or come to the mic, but Bedell is like the post game call in-show Nazzi. And between he and tizzy, they have combined UD basketball knowledge all the way back to Nirvana, Tiffany, and New Kids...and that's a huge stretch on my part, as I doubt they go back that far.

Somebody get these fellas a copy of Ritter Collett's "The Flyers".

With that said, I am confident that Bedell is ESPN material. And I say that sincerely.

Bring back Norm Grevey.

Back to you BROB over in Columbus where it's wall to wall knowledge of Dayton Flyers mere existence.
Dont really know Bedell other than seeing him in the WHIO radio room a cpl times. I know Tisdell from doing FF with him, George, and Ivcic. He's quite knowledgeable. We would watch the road games in the studio and toss around old forgotten names and games quite a bit.

Im not sure anything predating NKOTB and Tiffany is even relevant anymore. Most current HS recruits and college basketball players/students think the world clock began with Big Bang Theory and Beyonce. Everything before that is just random expansion of the universe.
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Bedell is a good dude. He knows his stuff, not only about UD, but about hoops in general. He isn't being fed X and O information and knows the game.

If any of the talking heads are using anything about our program that isn't in the last decade, that means we haven't done enough in the last decade. We all know there is enough in the Archie era to speak of.

UD isn't in the drivers seat...the TV corporations are. They will talk about what they want to talk about and UD admin can't do a **** thing about it no matter how hard they try. Want to know why we have a handful of Friday night games that everyone *****es about? 4 Friday games on ESPN2. UD didn't make that call...ESPN did and if UD wants to be on anything other than a regional broadcast, they will do what they have to do.

Want to know how to get on the radar of the talking heads? Win. Prove people wrong. Win again. The overlords to the south figured it out two decades ago and reaped the benefits. UD didn't and people are still wondering why. Why do we play on Friday? Why do we have a noon start on a weekend? Why doesn't anyone talk about us? Why doesn't anyone care about what UD did during the Korean and Vietnam Wars? Why? Why?

It's because UD didn't do enough when everyone else was watching. Now when UD is deserving of the work they have done with Men's BB, all other sports, and academically...no one outside of the UD circles really cares.

Nothing else to do about it except win and make people talk about UD. Don't give them an excuse not to.
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ESPN knows UD. Some talking heads do not.
As for Flyer Feedback, I was on hold for over 10 minutes. When they talked an entire segment and went to commercial without taking a call, I hung up. My problem with the show is too much yapping and not enough fan interactions. Mark Adams was outstanding at doing X and O stuff and also getting common fans involved.
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Got to play hoops with Bedell in the Twitter All Star pickup game that David Jablonski organized. Good dude and decent hoopster. Got to know Mark Adams a bit from when he did FF. John is no Hometown Coach but who is? The name of the show is "Flyer Feedback" so yeah maybe more audience participation is in order.
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Looks to me the problem with Flyer Feedback is that WHIO puts out almost zero effort on it….
Bidel is likely a salaried employee, so likely gets nothing extra for doing the show.
The guy that hauls the equipment to Flannigan’s, sets things up, tears it back down after the show, and hauls it back, is likely a part timer getting paid minimum wage with no benefits. So he probably adds 3 hours to his 15 hour work week.
I believe the former players that co-host do it gratis….
So WHIO does not have very many $s invested in it. My gut feel is that they would cancel it in a heartbeat if it were to start to cost them real money.
My parents preached to me that “you get what you pay for”. And we as fans aren't getting much….
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Looks to me the problem with Flyer Feedback is that WHIO puts out almost zero effort on it….
Bidel is likely a salaried employee, so likely gets nothing extra for doing the show.
The guy that hauls the equipment to Flannigan’s, sets things up, tears it back down after the show, and hauls it back, is likely a part timer getting paid minimum wage with no benefits. So he probably adds 3 hours to his 15 hour work week.
I believe the former players that co-host do it gratis….
So WHIO does not have very many $s invested in it. My gut feel is that they would cancel it in a heartbeat if it were to start to cost them real money.
My parents preached to me that “you get what you pay for”. And we as fans aren't getting much….
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Yup. WHIO should probably stick to Larry and Bucky's call. Get out of the TV,Pre-game,Post-game and coaches show business. The eyeballs are there, I'm surprised Fox Sports and their radio affiliates don't want the UD eyeballs. Granted i know next to nothing about the business but it makes sense to me.
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Got to play hoops with Bedell in the Twitter All Star pickup game that David Jablonski organized. Good dude and decent hoopster. Got to know Mark Adams a bit from when he did FF. John is no Hometown Coach but who is? The name of the show is "Flyer Feedback" so yeah maybe more audience participation is in order.
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Flyer Feedback is for local consumption only and preaches to the choir. It only reaches a 60 mile radius from Dayton. UD needs to be in the NBE. Then you get nationwide exposure on FS1, etc. Then you pump money, resources, talent into a show like Flyer Feedback that gets picked up by FS1 and raises awareness. UD has EVERYTING but a power 5 league affiliation. All we can do is just keep winning!
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Don't disagree, but have you seen the ratings the NBE draws on FS1. There are seldom more than 75,000 watching a game.
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Did you see the promo for the Nova v X game during the Giants @ Green Bay Packers game? That little 10 second blurb between plays was worth a ton in national brand awareness. Are the ratings for FS1 any better/worse than the ratings for NBC sports or cbssports?

College basketball is largely a regionalized sport (ie you watch your favorite team and perhaps teams in its leagues and not much else) until late February, early March. Every early blurb helps keep your name up in the mix until people start tuning in nationally.
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I vowed to not watch ANY NBE games on FS1 until they expanded with UD and any other number of teams. Maybe there is a large viewing audience waiting for this to happen with their team as well.

I do listen to the FF program over the internet (I now live in Southern CA) and since The Hometown Coach departed it has not been the same.
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Don't disagree, but have you seen the ratings the NBE draws on FS1. There are seldom more than 75,000 watching a game.
You are 100% correct, but it's probably 70,000 more than the average A10 matchup.
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Would you rather have your games on FS1, or on ASN and / or Time Warner Cable Sports channel?
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Would you rather have your games on FS1, or on ASN and / or Time Warner Cable Sports channel?
You forgot about Facebook Live.

Seriously, who cares how many eyeballs are watching the games? Who wouldn't want to take the additional $s that Fox is giving?
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You are 100% correct, but it's probably 70,000 more than the average A10 matchup.
Not on CBSSports or NBCSports. On ASN I am sure it is.

Of course being in the NBE would be better for the money, for as long as it lasts. But an expansion team likely doesn't get the same money as existing members. They are likely to get an unequal share.

It's the idea the NBE is going to create a lot more exposure and viewing. It won't.

And if FS1 wants to be ESPN they are going to pay to get the SEC, or ACC or B1G or Big 12. And there will be fewer NBE games and less money. Catholic private schools not named Notre Dame do not draw an audience. Large state schools do.
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Not on CBSSports or NBCSports. On ASN I am sure it is.

Of course being in the NBE would be better for the money, for as long as it lasts. But an expansion team likely doesn't get the same money as existing members. They are likely to get an unequal share.

It's the idea the NBE is going to create a lot more exposure and viewing. It won't.

And if FS1 wants to be ESPN they are going to pay to get the SEC, or ACC or B1G or Big 12. And there will be fewer NBE games and less money. Catholic private schools not named Notre Dame do not draw an audience. Large state schools do.
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The NBE is still new... how's that for insight.

They are still building their brand. If they continue to have teams vying for the national championship and placing 4 teams in the top 15, they will continue to force awareness will build the perception they are among the best basketball conferences in the country.

The audience may not catch all the way to the football conferences but the prestige will be there and there will likely be some narrowing of the gap. The money is always going to be better in the NBE. The prestige is going to be better as well.

It seems like some on the board want the NBE to fail and build a narrative that leads to that failure.
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Flyer Feedback is for local consumption only and preaches to the choir. It only reaches a 60 mile radius from Dayton.
Some of us listen to Bucky, Larry, and Flyer Feedback on-line. It is what it is. Some of it's good, some not so much.

Surprised the school hasn't used it as a opportunity for students.
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And if FS1 wants to be ESPN they are going to pay to get the SEC, or ACC or B1G or Big 12. And there will be fewer NBE games and less money. Catholic private schools not named Notre Dame do not draw an audience. Large state schools do.
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ESPN has lost 10 million subscribers since 2013...89 mil now vs. their high mark of 99 mil in 2013.

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That's because people have cut the cord. Nobody subscribes to ESPN like they do HBO.

FS- could be distributed to as many cable and satellite subscribers as ESPN but that won't make FS1 successful if they don't get content people want to watch.
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I also think ESPN has joined the "political bandwagon".
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ESPN has been on the political nuns on the bus for a very long time. Owned by Disney, and cateeing to ncaa; and that's essentially the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea.
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The days of repeated sports highlights are over...the hour long Sportscenter that replayed from the early morning hours until lunch are over. Every game would have highlights...no longer. That is what killed ESPN. I don't care about what some talking head has to say. I want to see the scores and plays from each game....but then I would have to go watch ESPN News or whatever it is now...and filter around the typical ESPN BS.
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The days of repeated sports highlights are over...the hour long Sportscenter that replayed from the early morning hours until lunch are over. Every game would have highlights...no longer. That is what killed ESPN. I don't care about what some talking head has to say. I want to see the scores and plays from each game....but then I would have to go watch ESPN News or whatever it is now...and filter around the typical ESPN BS.
I used to watch ESPN News quite a bit, I really loved it, but I do not think it is even on the air anymore...seems like it went off the air 5? years ago.

I have no idea why they pulled the plug on it, that was a real bad move IMO.

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When ESPN started, it was a sports channel run by people who loved sports. Heck, we would sit around drinking beer on Friday nights and call Bristol to recommend nicknames for Berman. That all slowly changed to groups of faceless names who are more interested in promoting themselves and their person brand. Now it's a corporate office reporting scores, ensuring they check every politically correct box. Most of the opinion shows are constant arguing. It's truly amazing that in 35 years a brand was made and ruined.
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When ESPN started, it was a sports channel run by people who loved sports . . .

I miss Australian Rules Football . . .

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ESPN merely promotes the teams (thus leagues) that they sponsor.... Is that a surprise?
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