Saint Louis Game Thread

[lhsgolf19]

Nothing bigger than the Arch Baron Cup Boys and Girls!!!

Awesome come from behind win yesterday afternoon... Let's keep it up as we go and try to steal a win at Chaifetz on Tuesday Night. The Billikens are in free fall right now, they have lost 4 game in a row... Do not let them get off the mat!

Game is on Tuesday Night at 9 PM and will be shown on the CBS Sports Network.

Starting Lineup:
G 2 Tramaine Isabell Jr. 6’1” 180 SR Seattle, WA
G 0 Jordan Goodwin 6’3” 210 SO Centreville, IL
G 3 Javon Bess 6’6” 220 SR Columbus, OH
F 11 Hasahn French 6’7” 235 SO Middletown, NY
F 1 D.J. Foreman 6’8” 240 SR Spring Valley, NY

Bess is easily their best player and playing like a 1st Team All-A10 Player, he is averaging 15.8 Points and 6.8 Rebounds a night. We all know French is a load, 9.3 PPG 8.5 RPG. One thing about SLU (praying I don't jinx it lol) but they can't shoot (41.2% FG 30.5% 3PT 60% FT)... I will be upset/surprised if AG doesn't play a ton of zone against them.

Go and steal a win to try and keep up with the top of the conference.

Get the job done! Go UD!

[jack72]

These guys are thugs up front. They like to hit you in the mouth several times and hope you cower. They will test Obi and Josh physically. Hopefully they don't back down. Big key is to take their physical game and score inside in the first ten minutes, otherwise we better shoot 50% from three.

[OSU Flyer]

Frankie might be useful for a few fouls this game on French. Guy is a dreadful FT shooter (33.8%)

[T-Bone 84]

This might be another game where our newfound defensive secret weapon (Cohill) has a chance to have an impact on the game. If he can give Brown of St. Joe fits on D, he may be able to have a similar impact on Bess (though Bess is a far more imposing physical presence than Brown). If Dwayne can deny Bess the ball, and/or get a couple of steals while Bess is handling it, that might bog-down the SLU offense enough for us to get a run or 2 against them.
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[rollo]

[Radar]

FWIW, ESPN Basketball Power Index has UD with 52.1% chance of winning.

[lhsgolf19]

stu durando
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@studurando
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Injury problem is growing for SLU. Travis Ford said he will have 6 or 7 players available Tuesday night against Dayton, not counting players recently given scholarships. KC Hankton (shoulder) appears to be out. Javon Bess (ankle) still hobbled.

stu durando
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@studurando
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SLU is getting so thin on players, Travis Ford said he has considered asking former Billikens to participate in practice. The one name he mentioned was @thereallhughes

[UD62]

Flyers +1 vs SLU

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by UD62 Flyers +1 vs SLU

Up to +1.5 on ESPN this morning.
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[rollo]

Which Josh Cunningham will show up tonite. That is the royal question!

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by rollo

Wonder if the guy in the gray hoodie knows what a perilous life-ending position he is in.

[CT Flyer]

In honor of the duck boat parade today...and well because they are cheerleaders after all!

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by rollo Which Josh Cunningham will show up tonite. That is the royal question!

We need the MonStar...

[Class of 73 Alum]

I just got back from the Rivers casino in Pittsburgh and they have the Flyers -1.5. I took them as part of a 3 team parlay.

[Beatty Town Coach]

I give the nod to the SLU ladies; don't need anymore Patriots anything.

If we could get the total josh with the total Obi at same time, I suspect we might see outshooting percentage improve substantially.

[Chris R]

Not very optimistic. We struggle against good perimeter defenders. Late start for us, short bench as usual. I see the Bills taking care of biz in this one. They sort of need the W as much more than we do.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by Chris R Not very optimistic. We struggle against good perimeter defenders. Late start for us, short bench as usual. I see the Bills taking care of biz in this one. They sort of need the W as much more than we do.

This feels like the back to back VCU and Bonnies games. Need to win 1 out of 2. I'd like to do it tonight but not expecting it.

[jack72]

Obi starting tonight!

[Viperstick]

This is how crazy Flyer fans are for their team: WHIO is preempting the SOTU Address for UD-SLU.

OBTW, DirecTV doing a free CBSSports preview, channel 221.

[maddog07]

Looks like Landers offensive ineptitude has cost him starting. About time.
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[jack72]

Terrible rebounding to start

[frisco flyer]

Why did we start Obi if all we want to do is jack up a three early in the shot clock?

[Jeff]

We need to just settle down. Need to get boards

[Viperstick]

Josh doing his best Trey Landers imitation.

8-0 SLU

[longtimefan67]

Could we start any worse?
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[frisco flyer]

Wow. Did we come to play or are we there to see the Arch.

[Mr_Sweets]

This team doesn't know how to start a dang game... brutal per usual.
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[jack72]

Cunningham with a terrible three and a travel early. Add to that no rebounding on the defensive boards. He is totally out of it lately.

[EliteEight]

Need to wake up and start boxing out. No more threes from Josh.

[frisco flyer]

We might need to sub Landers in.
Rebounding is killing us.

[longtimefan67]

I don’t really think St. L is really playing all that well- just lot bwtter than Dayton
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[Jeff]

My god we’re 3 happy

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 I don’t really think St. L is really playing all that well- just lot bwtter than Dayton Posted via Mobile Device

Agree. If we can box out, they have 4

[Viperstick]

“If you’re a Dayton fan, don’t panic. They always suck at the start”

[EliteEight]

We need to go to the rack and rebound. Is that 10 O rebounds by SLU? Jeez

[lhsgolf19]

17-4 SLU with 12 to go

[jack72]

Originally Posted by jack72 These guys are thugs up front. They like to hit you in the mouth several times and hope you cower. They will test Obi and Josh physically. Hopefully they don't back down. Big key is to take their physical game and score inside in the first ten minutes, otherwise we better shoot 50% from three.

Unfortunately it is happening.

[Kevinob15]

Every team we play beats us in the effort statistics. CAG needs to show some kyle Davis tapes st practice or something
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[pmcmullen]

When you can't make a bucket or grab a board, it looks like this. Geez.

[longtimefan67]

Dayton is soft tonight and its a bad loss
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[Avid Flyer]

One team came to play, the other came to be spectators

[joeybaloney]

0-5 from three and giving up way too many offensive rebounds. Quit shooting **** threes and box out on defense. Gross display so far.

[frisco flyer]

Finally starting to play basketball.

[pmcmullen]

Need Trey to keep being a man tonight

[jack72]

Getting outrebounded 17-5 with 9 offensive rebounds

[frisco flyer]

SMH. Just when you think we are beginning to click our PG walks with the ball.

[lhsgolf19]

20-12 SLU with 7:40 left... Josh with 2 FTs after the break

[pmcmullen]

I thought I stopped watching brick-laying videos an hour ago?

[Radar]

9 off rebounds SLU
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[joeybaloney]

Little more fight now, that's more like it

[frisco flyer]

When was the last time jC made a pair of free throws.

[DGO67]

Got a kick out of the announcer saying "Flyer fans, don't worry, the Flyers usually start slow."
Duuuuuh!!!

[pmcmullen]

They just said we're a good free throw team? Huh?

[Flyerferd]

OB splits the free throws. Dayton gets the ball after a flagrant on St. Louis.
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[jpk4ud]

Originally Posted by maddog07 Looks like Landers offensive ineptitude has cost him starting. About time. Posted via Mobile Device

So you win 4 games in around and change line up??? Put you best rebounder on the bench...give up 9 offense rebounds and 13 second chance point...

[lhsgolf19]

28-14 SLU with 3:55 left

[jack72]

Worst display of rebounding by a UD team that I can remember. 23-9 with 11 offensive rebounds. Landers 0 rebounds and Josh 1.

[longtimefan67]

This is easily the worst 1st half I’ve seen by a UD team since the early 90’s - i refuse to name the UD “coach” of that team
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[EliteEight]

Need a solid 4 minutes to close the half

[Jeff]

About time for UDscott and daytonalltheway to show up

[Viperstick]

Warm up the bus

[Jeff]

Getting manhandled.

[Viperstick]

Here comes Obi’s 3rd

[PepBand Man]

Wow! This IS NOT pretty. Not pretty at all.

[pmcmullen]

A mediocre high school team would beat our ass this half.

[joeybaloney]

Way to come to play Flyers. Way to get em ready to play coach. Un f'ing believable. Mediocrity at it's finest

[jack72]

Landers almost got a rebound, but it hit him in the head?

[CT Flyer]

Setting Dayton basketball back many decades...

[Jeff]

Get Obi out now. No 3rd foul before half.

[lhsgolf19]

Quick 5 for UD... 34-19 SLU with 41 sec left... UD will get the last shot

[EliteEight]

We're just getting out muscled, out manned, out worked. Lazy passes. Coach CAG needs to give them a good talking to at half

[jack72]

Josh the only one playing a little. The other seven suck.

[longtimefan67]

Really though i’m encouraged - we should be down 30...
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[frisco flyer]

St Louis has extended the lead with their two best players on the bench.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by jack72 These guys are thugs up front. They like to hit you in the mouth several times and hope you cower. They will test Obi and Josh physically. Hopefully they don't back down. Big key is to take their physical game and score inside in the first ten minutes, otherwise we better shoot 50% from three.

Originally Posted by jack72 Josh the only one playing a little. The other seven suck.

And Cohill

[Flyerferd]

Nice job Dwayne!
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[lhsgolf19]

8-0 finish to the half... Only down 34-22

[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by Flyerferd Nice job Dwayne! Posted via Mobile Device

Maybe it’s Cohills time to show why he was a top 30 HS all time scorer- nobody else is showing up
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[312to937]

Don’t worry. We only lost to UVA by 7. Maybe we can print some t shirts.
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[frisco flyer]

Cohill came to play. Everyone else needs to do 100 push-ups in the locker room at the half.

The good news is St Louis is a terrible team so there’s a slim chance we can come back, but we need to play like our life depends on it. Our play in the first half was just embarrassing.

[jack72]

That was our first three. Now 1-11 for 9%, 8 turnovers and getting outrebounded by 10. That about tells the first half.

[LIBob]

Somehow Cohill was +9 that half. Maybe he’ll get more PT 2nd half.

[NJFlyr71]

Sometimes this team seems to not frikin care ...

they can be outmuscled, out rebounded, out and out everything ...

cant make more than 50% of free throws ...

bad passes, lazy passes, ...


Of course they could come back but with the weak offense unit on the floor for StL they were almost doubled up so what happens when the best StL players are back in the game ???

I almost want to hear the SOTUS .... on second thought maybe I just grab me a cold one and watch something on Netflix

[Radar]

Originally Posted by jack72 And Cohill

Crutcher awful
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[jpk4ud]

Comparison
TEAM FG% FG 3F% 3F FT% FT TO PtTO REB OR B S A
UD 35% 9-26 9% 1-11 60% 3-5 8 5 15 3 1 2 5
ST L. 43% 15-35 27% 3-11 20% 1-5 7 8 25 11 2 5 7

[DGO67]

Flyers first 15 minutes of play would have us down against Johnson's College of Turning and Boring Wood, but behold the boys look like they have awakened!
This is a manageable predicament. Box out, forget the 3, protect the ball and
keep Toppin out of foul trouble.

[tirebiter]

Flyers 1-11 on threes - they are due to go 5-6 or something like that in the 2nd half. Hope AG is lighting a fire under their butts - 11 offensive rebounds for the Bills. Got to block out and grab the f-ing ball. Time to stand up and get tore in.

[The Fly]

Hey, we’ve been down 20-plus before in a first half and come back to win. This is in the bag.

Not.

[Chris R]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer When was the last time jC made a pair of free throws.

Ive been tracking this over the last 8-10 games. Whenever he is fouled and there's a timeout and he shoots the FTs after the timeout, he always leaves the first FT short.

[jpk4ud]

No weak side help

[lhsgolf19]

40-31 SLU with 15:40 left

[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by 312to937 Don’t worry. We only lost to UVA by 7. Maybe we can print some t shirts. Posted via Mobile Device

Your sh1t is getting old, troll.
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[TommyGola]

Josh had an open look and didn't even recognize he was wide open under the hoop.

[jack72]

Cunningham not doing well this half. Davis not doing anything either half, 0-2 and 2 turnovers and some questionable defense. St L should be the last team you foul on a three point attempt.

[TommyGola]

The Flyers are boxing out but they stand and wait for the ball to bounce to them. They do not explode to the ball.

[Viperstick]

Anyone have a fork? Not because the Flyers are done, I need something to gouge out my eyes.

[TommyGola]

Josh with another point blank miss. He cannot play against big, athletic players.

[shwag33]

When your best players are playing their worst, this is what you get.

[sopaw10]

Crutcher, Cunningham, Davis all no-shows.

[TommyGola]

Another turnover - moving screen. This is awful offense.