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Old 09-12-2013, 08:04 PM
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Dayton versus Iowa State (Husker Challenge)

And the girls go down swinging in 3 sets: 13, 18 and 23. Isolde is pulled after the first set in favor of Angel Agu.

Megan hits at .368 to lead the team. The rest of the team hits .027. Ouch.

Tomorrow against Nebraska. Any guesses on how many points we will get in each set? 11, 14, 13, maybe?
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Last set was so much better. Tough competition will serve us well in the end. We learn more from our mistakes... Still optimistic about the season.
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Actually the level play improved with each set. Almost took set 3, up 23-22 but let it slip away.

Not sure which was more difficult the 8.5 hour drive from St. Louis or watching the first set. Matt is looking for improvement from each player with each set and thusly the improvement of the team. This is a work in progress and what we need watch is the player improvement more than the scores. Of course winning a set would do wonders for their confidence.

I actually thought the team turned the corner in game two of the Cincinnati game trailing 24-21 and came back to win it 26-24. I believe Cincy is better than most A-10 teams but VCU is coming out gunning on all cylinders. Its a bitter pill to watch the ladies who were so successful last year struggle, but losing Kray, Paige and Sam will cause the team to make major adjustment. Thats why you play a tough schedule before A-10 starts. They know what they individually and as a team have to work on and Matt is getting them in the gym to develop those talents they do have.

The talent is there and need find their own identity and mesh with the new staff and players. Wining that 3rd set would have done wonders for their confidence, but improving from 13 to 18 to 23 with victory in sight ain't too bad either to work on.

The teams in the Dayton Invitational were pretty evenly matched but UD ran into a buzz saw with Mizzou who had just lost 3-0 to Northeastern. Whomever their next opponent was would pay dearly and unfortunately it was UD.

Would have like to have seen more fans but it was the labor day weekend and Matt did get his first two victories and first Championship. More to come as they come together.

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Missed most of the last two years and hope to see many games this year. Matt and the Ladies need our support.
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Last set was so much better. Tough competition will serve us well in the end. We learn more from our mistakes... Still optimistic about the season.
Girls still seem upbeat and will get it together before A-10 season.
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The teams in the Dayton Invitational were pretty evenly matched but UD ran into a buzz saw with Mizzou who had just lost 3-0 to Northeastern. Whomever their next opponent was would pay dearly and unfortunately it was UD.
Just to clarify. It was Missouri State, and they had beaten Northeastern Friday night 3-2. Then they lost to Tulsa 3-0 earlier on Saturday. UD had beaten both Northeastern and Tulsa 3-1 to get to the face off with Missouri State.
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Alaina Turner is almost hitting negative for the season, and she'd taken more cuts at the ball than anyone. We've GOT to get her scoring.
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Just to clarify. It was Missouri State, and they had beaten Northeastern Friday night 3-2. Then they lost to Tulsa 3-0 earlier on Saturday. UD had beaten both Northeastern and Tulsa 3-1 to get to the face off with Missouri State.
Yep got it backwards. Just remember the thumping from MSU and have to listen to their fans chest thumping. Told them UD would take them in 4, had to eat crow.
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Alaina Turner is almost hitting negative for the season, and she'd taken more cuts at the ball than anyone. We've GOT to get her scoring.
I agree 100% -- actually about 1000% if that's an option. Our team hitting percentage is to be blunt - pretty bad. We need to get production from the left side and it's not happening. Both Turner and Loiars are sophomores swinging from Jendryk's sets for the first year. But they have to take responsibility for there shot selection. It can't be all cross court. Kray had the same problem as a freshman and sophomore -- just didn't have the tip shot, the down the line the cut shot, etc. But Kray could hit over the block so even tho her hitting percentage wasn't anywhere near where it developed into her junior and senior year, it was way better than Loiars and Turner at this point.

I'm sure Matt is concerned and all over it and working on our left side production as quickly as he can, but it's painful right now.

Also -- heard Nebraska head coach's radio show tonight. Apparently UD's flight was cancelled and the team had to bus into Lincoln through the night to arrive for the 4:30 pm central time match today. He didn't give too many details, but it sounded like an all-night trip for the team.

He also said UD got better as the match progressed and said the travel problems may have contributed to the early performance.
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Girls still seem upbeat and will get it together before A-10 season.
This is important....they are very good players, they will win on the court and in life.
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Alaina Turner is almost hitting negative for the season, and she'd taken more cuts at the ball than anyone. We've GOT to get her scoring.
Okay, my take on the Iowa State vs. Flyers match. Keep in mind, I usually see things differently than many others do.

Iowa State is a very good team--legitimately a top 20 team.

The Flyers were often poor at serve reception and at passing. If you are not in system (three or more attack options) it's hard to side-out or score. Out of system, you rely too much on the outside (left side) hitters. That's part of the reason Alaina's stats are so dismal. It's really easy to block against a team that must go to the outsides.

In system or out of system, the connections between the Flyers' hitters and the Flyers' setter is too often poor. The sets are often poorly timed or poorly placed or both. This is not entirely the setters fault. There must be a true connection between the hitters and the setter--so, it's a teamwork thing. That said, I believe the setter made quite a few poorly located or poorly timed sets--or both.

All aspects of the Flyers' play improved as the match went on.

Angel Agu came in and played well.

The team didn't give up.

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I agree 100% -- actually about 1000% if that's an option. Our team hitting percentage is to be blunt - pretty bad. We need to get production from the left side and it's not happening. Both Turner and Loiars are sophomores swinging from Jendryk's sets for the first year. But they have to take responsibility for there shot selection. It can't be all cross court. Kray had the same problem as a freshman and sophomore -- just didn't have the tip shot, the down the line the cut shot, etc. But Kray could hit over the block so even tho her hitting percentage wasn't anywhere near where it developed into her junior and senior year, it was way better than Loiars and Turner at this point.

I'm sure Matt is concerned and all over it and working on our left side production as quickly as he can, but it's painful right now.

Also -- heard Nebraska head coach's radio show tonight. Apparently UD's flight was cancelled and the team had to bus into Lincoln through the night to arrive for the 4:30 pm central time match today. He didn't give too many details, but it sounded like an all-night trip for the team.

He also said UD got better as the match progressed and said the travel problems may have contributed to the early performance.
On Turner to be fair I think to get her going we need more production out of the others as teams are marking her/double teaming her. To counter that she is trying to hit away from her blockers (not tall enough to go over them) and in doing so she is hitting into the net. The feisty one of the group is Shayne Brown who has a way of expressing herself when blocked. Not being an expert on VB I could be all wet but some of Jendryk' sets are too high and by time the ball comes down to the hitters the defense has time to set their blocks.

As Matt has indicated in emails it is not a match to match or set to set improvement they are working on but rather a point by point. Megan, Shayne, Alina all need to get used to a new setter. I feel its more of tweaking the offense than anything else. Defense is the big question, without Paige, Kray and Sam they are very susceptible. Thought an 8.5 hour drive from St Louis was bad but 14 hours from Dayton, wow. No wonder they were a little slow getting out of the gate in set one. Night and Day between set 1 and set 3

Tonight would be a great time to put it all together. Go Flyers!!

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I think everyone on here who has followed for the past 3-6 years knows both UDBrian and I have on many occasions used the phrase, "It all starts with the pass." If the pass is off (i.e. bad) the setter can not set the ball to all of her 3 hitters at the net. Usually the option that is taken away first is setting to the middle hitter. That hurts UD when Megan Campbell is our best offensive option. The next most difficult set off a bad pass is to the right side OH. That is Shayne Brown -- certainly our next most experienced hitter.

Off a bad pass, the setter usually has only two options -- to dump a high set over to the leftside OH or to set the back row if we have a hitter there. The worst part of all of this is off a bad pass, everyone on the other side of the net knows where the ball is going at this point.

I haven't heard anyone who has seen some matches talk about our attack from the back row this year. Do we have one? If not, it makes it even worse because it means everyone knows the ball is headed to the left OH (Turner or Loiars). And that's the easiest block to set. The opponent's right side OH takes away the down the line shot and their MB slides over to cover the cross court.

Kray got a lot of those sets (both the dumps outside and the back row sets) the last two years. She LEARNED how to handle them. That's why a left OH's hitting numbers are never as good as your MB's hitting percentages. It's because those players take a lot of swings and many of them are off bad passes that result in going up against a block that's waiting for you. Kray did not have all the shots and experience in her first two years playing to terminate those shots. Her hitting percentage reflected that. She did however have a very high point of contact with the ball (could hit over many blocks), and she worked very hard to expand her shots and her ability to make the shot decision in the air after reading the defense.

Turner and Loiars aren't anywhere near experienced enough at this point to do those things. It's how quickly we can get them there and/or find another hitter on the team that can, that will determine how this team does this year.

Setting: It's always tough to comment on the setting if you haven't seen the player in action, and I have not seen Jenna set. But Tandem is right on in how important this is to the offense. Timing between setter and hitter is very important. However, I will point out ALL OUR HITTERS that have played so far this year, had the spring season and the summer and the fall preseason to work with Jenna. Some even had all of last year in practice to play with her setting the ball. Timing should not be an issue at this point, and if it is, that is concerning. Also, where the setter places the ball (placement), especially off of bad passes, could be an issue. This comes down to the setter's experience and abilities. It should be noted Jenna played opposite for most of her high school career. That's a position in a 2-setter offense that sets for the 3 rotations she is in the back row and then hits from mostly the right side OH when she is in the front row because the 2nd setter has come in for 3 rotations and to set from the back row. Point is, Jenna doesn't have a lot of setting experience. How fast and how much she improves this year is also a huge factor in how far this team will go.

And after all that...we circle around and back to "It all starts with the pass." Good passing and serve receive helps everyone on the court. In UD's case, that is huge this year because we have pretty young players at both left side OH and setter. It's so very, very important and I would put money on it's UD's #1 focus right now.

Blocking: We did not block well at all against Iowa State. Only 2 blocks in 3 sets. Prior to that our blocking stats were very very good (2.79/set I think. They dropped to 2.59 after ISU.) I remember the year we finished in the top 3 in the country in blocks and our average was around 2.7 -- so the point of reference is good. We will need to get our block going early and often against NE tonight to have a chance. Stuff a few hitters early and they start to wonder if they can terminate. This will also help our back row defense. Hitters start taking a little off their shots cause they don't want to get blocked. Gives our defense a split second more time to dig the ball. Right now, other than the ISU match, this has been the bright spot this year for this team. We need to exploit our strengths while continuing to work on the things we need to improve. I'd start with the block. I hope we really get after it tonight and put up an iron curtain against NE. I look forward to seeing the match in person tonight.

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I saw the matches at the Dayton Invitational and here at Nebraska so far and my opinion is they do not have a back row attack as the ball either goes into the net or is too long.

Passing is very poor starting with serve receive. Ball comes off the receiver either extremely high or goes off to the right or left but seldom up towards the front where the setter is. Jenna is running all over the place to catch up with the ball to set it which is why her sets are high. I think we are telecasting our sets which makes it easy to defend.

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Our blocking is poor, but our attacks are weak. Too many love taps trying to catch them off guard. Only Megan seems to be hitting with some authority. Jill does not seem to be using her height, not sure but don't think she is jumping, hitting flat footed. Will watch that tonight.

Our opponents are hammering us and hitting all the right spots. Not sure we are doing anything more than just getting it over the net. Last year Kray, Megan, Shayne and Alina all seemed to know where to hit the ball, don't seem so this year.
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As I recall--and my short-term memory is very poor--it seemed to me that Iowa State hitters we having a pretty easy time splitting the block between the middle blocker and the hitter or the setter as the case may be. My guess is that the middles weren't closing the block fast enough.

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As I recall--and my short-term memory is very poor--it seemed to me that Iowa State hitters we having a pretty easy time splitting the block between the middle blocker and the hitter or the setter as the case may be. My guess is that the middles weren't closing the block fast enough.

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If this were the case, I would GUESS a coach has two options. First you would talk to your middles and find out why they are a step behind in this match -- are they having problems reading this particular setter or is the other team passing so well, they have to wait a second longer to see the set because the setter has all her options?

If we couldn't get our middles the extra step ahead on the block, then I would think a coach would make blocking adjustments from the outside. The outside blocker would have to take an extra step towards the middle to close the block. That does leave more room on the outside for a down the line shot -- but that is a harder shot to make for most hitters. You would be playing the percentages which is better than giving them the easy cross court through the blockers.

Not a vball coach, so these are guesses. One thing for sure is an adjustment would need to be made. How well a team can implement adjustments in a match is always a contributing factor on who wins, especially in these matches against top teams. They know how to make adjustments on the fly. And sometimes you go a couple rounds of check and counter-check when two top teams are battling it out.

I'll be watching for that tonight. Is Dayton making the adjustments to shut down NE and is Dayton executing it's game play causing problems for NE and is NE having to make adjustments because of it? A lot more going on on the court than just bump-set-spike. Watching the coaches is a whole game in itself.
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AvidFlyer, good to hear you joining in and I think you described the issue with passing very well.

It won't surprise anyone that I agree 100% with Beckystxa If the pass is off the net the middle blocker will immediately move over to double block the left outside hitter. The left outside hitter is at a huge disadvantage when the ball is coming at an angle toward the net, it is very difficult to cut this shot or to turn and hit it down the line. Your momentum is carrying you cross court and doing anything else takes experience and a lot of talent. Alaina is a 5'10" outside hitter and in this scenario she will have a lot of trouble. If the ball is passed three feet from the net and set close to the outside pole the hitter now has a lot of options giving them an advantage over the blockers.

In the Tulsa match this year the best blocking tandem by far was Megan next to Jenna

Regarding the back row attack they did set Alaina 2-3 times from the back row in the Tulsa match but it wasn't effective. With Kray's height and arm length she had a much higher error margin when hitting from the back row. Alaina can improve in that regard. This really bailed out the team when they weren't passing the ball well

One thing that another player told me once is that he thinks about different scenarios when he is at the net. He would evaluate the blockers and back row players to determine what he would do if the set was too close, too far inside etc. Some of that forward thinking might help the team right now.

I didn't think that Jenna's setting was extremely accurate in the first match of the season but she is a very inexperienced setter who brings top notch blocking. I think she will improve as the season goes on. I can tell your from experience that if you lose faith in your passers it makes you slower to move into the right position when setting. Even sprinting several steps on every pass takes a lot of conditioning although I think Jenna is in good shape
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Getting ready to head out to the Devaney Center early to avoid the crowd. A quick comment and a question.

First the Bob Devaney Center is awesome, Nebraska did themselves and volleyball proud. First class in every aspect...er cept the cement hill going up to the gates. Pant Pant, being inactive for last 18 months or so took a lil toll on me.

Second: Brian you probably know the answer to this one. At the UD Northeastern game the head ref gave Dayton a red card. In soccer you lose a player but nothing seemed different other than Northeaster got the point. Can you explain the red card and how it affects the team or set?
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I am not an expert on the yellow/red card rules. It can be given to a coach for arguing calls too much and Matt does get on the refs pretty good when it is warranted. Longer term coaches can get away with more than a first year coach. Here is the description from wikipedia for volleyball

A yellow card can be used in different ways to indicate several penalties. A player or team staff member can be shown a yellow card for the first instance of rude conduct and the referee may also penalise a team for delaying the game by pointing to the wrist using a yellow card.[14] Both offences result in a loss of rally. A yellow card can also be used together with a red card to indicate a participant has been disqualified and can take no further part in the match.[14] In the NCAA, red and yellow cards in the same hand indicate that the player must sit out the rest of that game, while red and yellow cards held apart indicate that the participant is disqualified and must leave the playing and spectator areas.

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In the US high school or college rules, the yellow card is just a warning. The red card is the point or side out and point. The red and yellow together mean the person is expelled for the set and the red and yellow apart mean the disqualification for the match.
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I listened to Matt's post game interview. He was very unhappy with the execution again.
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First the Bob Devaney Center is awesome, Nebraska did themselves and volleyball proud. First class in every aspect...er cept the cement hill going up to the gates. Pant Pant, being inactive for last 18 months or so took a lil toll on me.SNIP
The south entrance, which is level, is to be refurbished next spring/summer and opened for event traffic. The north entrance needs a little concrete repair, but will likely remain a hill to climb...

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