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Old 01-12-2019, 10:35 AM
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It is GW today at noon on ESPN+. This is not your mother's GW team, as they are 4-11 on a somewhat tough schedule. They lost to Maryland by 39, and just beat RI.
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17-11 Flyers at the end of Q1.

The stupidity of Fowler and Wilmoth not holding for the last shot of a quarter just baffles me.
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17-11 after first quarter. I have been out of town, so first game I have seen in a couple of weeks. I was thinking how much better they looked, of course GW is not good. Then we promptly throw up several bad threes early in the shot clock. 1-6 on threes.
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9 turnovers in the first 15 minutes. Cannetelli, a senior with 3. She still has not learned to dribble without palming the ball. She did it three times in front of the referee, and he finally like had to call it the fourth time.
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27-24 Flyers at the half. Just a terrible second quarter. Chandler turned it over and then missed a couple of bunnies. 11 turnovers is too many - 7 in the second quarter alone.

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Ok ladies you are already in DC no need to keep traveling.

Maddy is defending post well
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Chandler missing point blank shots, Jalen missing 5 freethrows, making game closer than should be.
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Sloppy pass by Jalen and missed free throws. Defense is out of sink. Maddy defending post well but 3rd foul.

GW 44 to 43. 4th quarter woes again. GW has the mo.

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Old 01-12-2019, 02:36 PM
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17 turnovers and 1-11 from three.

Chandler has been a major disappointment.
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17 turnovers and 1-11 from three.

Chandler has been a major disappointment.
Flyers didn't deserve to win.

GW couch agreed there was a foul at the end. Oh well. Lauren had a high travels in her career. She just can't create her own shot. For three years she had the best back court we've had allowing her to score at a high efficiency. Those days are gone.

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46-45 GDub. Good God was that awful.
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A total team loss. We really need new blood. Both our point guards are undersized and terrible. This is a lost year.

Why was Ward on the floor at the end? She gives us nothing.
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Old 01-12-2019, 02:50 PM
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Terrible no call on Scaife's shot. I mean c'mon let them play, but not with a major league hack. First thing out of the GW coaches mouth was we lucked out, that was a foul at the end.

That being said, we stunk, especially the fourth quarter with 5 points scored, so did not deserve this game. We are going to see the same all year, double Scaife and let the others shoot their wild threes.
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A total team loss. We really need new blood. Both our point guards are undersized and terrible. This is a lost year.

Why was Ward on the floor at the end? She gives us nothing.
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Problem is who do you play? We have one good player and a bunch of role players.

Glad to see Ward has at least got into better shape. Now she needs to start playing better.
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Fowler is a shoot first guard. Need someone who can see the court. Too many of her passes in the post are at the ankles.

Agreed Ward and Chandler in at the end was a head scratcher. Neither can defend or finish at the rim.

While we didn't get the call at the end if that's your plan it will fail more often as the refs don't want to decide a close gsme.
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Problem is who do you play? We have one good player and a bunch of role players.

Glad to see Ward has at least got into better shape. Now she needs to start playing better.
Dennis had a decent game defending the post. Rather have seen her in at the end instead of chandler or ward.
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Maybe the worst defeat in 10 seasons. As bad as GW is -- and they are bad -- they actually played worse than their average today and still won. UD couldnt make layups, shoot FTs, protect the ball, shoot jumpers, etc.

GW scored 46pts because thats all they are capable of, not because of great Flyer defense. Colonels couldnt hit the broad side of a barn. Flyers should have won this game 76-46. No sympathy from me on the no-call at the end. Never should have gotten to that point. Shauna was coming out of her shoes on the sidelines for most of the second half at the inexplicable poor play and decision-making.

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They have to win the tournament at this point. This is a loss that keeps them from the NCAA.

Sad, just sad. I have no idea why Fowler plays as much as she does. Give me Giacone at the point.
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Too many substitutions. We never got in a flow. Too much one on one. Much of this loss is on the coach. We stayed at the same slow pace all game when clearly we had better athletes. But the pg wasteland really sunk us. One assist each for Bradshaw and Fowler. Unacceptable!
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Stats

... a look at the stat sheet is enough to make a person ill. Three point and foul shooting absolutely dreadful. An improvement on either one from "dreadful" to just plain "bad" and we would have won. Really deflating.
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Dennis in 10 min scored 4 pts 2 for 2, 4 rebounds, 1 block shot, and defended their post players really well. 2 turnovers

Chandler made just 3 baskets out of 7 under the post with plays drawn up for her. Took one trey ended with 3 of 8.only two rebounds in 22 min with 3 turnovers.

Ward shot 1 of 4 2pts, 1 rebound in 16 min no turnovers.

Yet it was Ward and Chandler in for the last plays of the 4th quarter.

Coach Green needs look in the mirror on this one. She made as many bad decisions as the team did today.

This is the game that will keep them out of the NCAA tourney. Must win A10 tournament or sit. Not sure they would qualify for WNIT.
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Bench points: 24 of the 45 pts from bench. Simply put starters aren't getting the job done.

7.7% from 3 point land must be a record. 1 of 13 attempts.
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It has been a while since joining the fun but it is Just a bump in the road. They will overcome, I am sure
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unfortunately this is not the first time we've seen this bump. Previous bumps were against far better teams. Coach Green us showing far too much loyalty to players who simply aren't producing. Right now this is on her.

Many coaches award starting and paying time based on practices, which don't always equate to how they perform in game situations.

Needing a 3 pt shot or two why not at least give your top 3 pt prospect a shot. The opponent don't have a scouting report on her yet. And please don't tell me chandler and ward were playing better than dennis who made both her shots, got 4 rebounds, 1 block played great post defense in only 10 min playing time.
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Isn't it time to give Maddy Dennis what she has earned in games and that is to start. She, not ward nor wilmoth should be starting. I believe skeens and Davidson should be getting these minutes too.

I am not for benching Cannatelli. She has earned this with hard work.

My problem now and has been all season, is our PG spot. Neither of them drive and when stopped look to kick it back out to the wings. Giacone is a better point guard than either one currently and has size, strength, and length. She likes to shoot, but she can also pass the ball. She is a former top 100 player...let her handle it right now.

I would start, Cannatelli, Scaife, Dennis, Giacone and Chandler with the clear expectation she stays low, none of this 3 point shooting. I think her confidence is lower right now. This would help get her back to where she can be.

Skeens, Davidson, and Whitehead need to get more time if we are going to count on them in the future.

Just my opinions, but I am not a coach who sees them everyday in practice.

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So people are complaining about two things regarding this game... the starting lineup but do remember the Flyers were up 17-7 so I don;t know the starting lineup is something to complain about. Also, individuals in the lineup at the end of the game. The ball was in the hands of Jayla Scaife the entire time as it should've been so that's a moot point.
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So people are complaining about two things regarding this game... the starting lineup but do remember the Flyers were up 17-7 so I don;t know the starting lineup is something to complain about. Also, individuals in the lineup at the end of the game. The ball was in the hands of Jayla Scaife the entire time as it should've been so that's a moot point.
Beyond dreadful shooting from the floor and the foul line. Had the Flyers made one more FG or two more FTs the shooting would still have been dreadful....but they would have won.
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I know it was a terrible loss and renders the rest of the conference season meaningless with NCAA hopes pinned on three days in Duquesne.
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Not moot points at all. The starters couldn't maintain that lead, it was the starters in the 4th quarter. The only one who had a consistant game was Dennis.

Jayla can create her own shot but can't convert at the charity line. She too had some bad passes and had ball stripped from her. The last one in the 4th qtr was a mugging and should have been a foul.

As for Jayla having the ball the whole time in the last play not so. Once She Went Up It Was Ward And Chandler Fighting For Put back. Neither one could finish during the game so why were they the ones for rebound and putback.

No doubt Jayla was fouled, announcers and coach even Said so. But if we were hoping for the call with her poor ft shooting it would be doubtful she'd make them. So truthfully we don't have one complete player.

Not sure what's happened to Maddy Dennis but she seems to have come alive since the GT game. Always liked her but she fit that finesse post player type. Now she is aggressive on both offense and defense. When the announcers give her credit then others see it too. Maybe it's the Mallot affect, waking up realizing she is a senior and it's now or never.

Chandler looks awkward out there, not comfortable at all. Guess her confidence is down. Really thought this team had turned the corner but our road record is miserable to say the least.

Going to the SLU game on 23rd.....think that is math day with thousands of screaming kids. We've got to turn the corner on away games or we'll be sitting home.

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Not moot points at all. The starters couldn't maintain that lead, it was the starters in the 4th quarter. The only one who had a consistant game was Dennis.

Jayla can create her own shot but can't convert at the charity line. She too had some bad passes and had ball stripped from her. The last one in the 4th qtr was a mugging and should have been a foul.

As for Jayla having the ball the whole time in the last play not so. Once She Went Up It Was Ward And Chandler Fighting For Put back. Neither one could finish during the game so why were they the ones for rebound and putback.

No doubt Jayla was fouled, announcers and coach even Said so. But if we were hoping for the call with her poor ft shooting it would be doubtful she'd make them. So truthfully we don't have one complete player.

Not sure what's happened to Maddy Dennis but she seems to have come alive since the GT game. Always liked her but she fit that finesse post player type. Now she is aggressive on both offense and defense. When the announcers give her credit then others see it too. Maybe it's the Mallot affect, waking up realizing she is a senior and it's now or never.

Chandler looks awkward out there, not comfortable at all. Guess her confidence is down. Really thought this team had turned the corner but our road record is miserable to say the least.

Going to the SLU game on 23rd.....think that is math day with thousands of screaming kids. We've got to turn the corner on away games or we'll be sitting home.
Most of your points were good, so I Thanked you. You are, however, way off base on Scaife not making the free throws. She shoots 63%, so she almost certainly would have made one to tie the score. The second one maybe.
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Jack we certainly don't agree on ft shooting. 63% is not good in my opinion, at least for Jayla, she was 2 of 6 in the GW game. The trip to the ft line before that she missed both.

Jayla came out strong in the 3rd qtr but couldn't finish at the line. Think it got in her head as she seemed to let up in the 4th. Still coach had faith in her calling her number for final play. GW coach was expecting it to be Jayla as she is our most consistant player.

Maybe they could let her take a few steps back and shoot a jumper for her freebie.

Watched Duquesne game and the shot 1 of 13 treys in first half. He apparently tried a different approach at half as the girls came out relaxed and smiling. Hit their next 5 treys to start the 3rd qtr. They Won BUT Barely At GM 60 57.

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Jack we certainly don't agree on ft shooting. 63% is not good in my opinion, at least for Jayla, she was 2 of 6 in the GW game. The trip to the ft line before that she missed both.

Jayla came out strong in the 3rd qtr but couldn't finish at the line. Think it got in her head as she seemed to let up in the 4th. Still coach had faith in her calling her number for final play. GW coach was expecting it to be Jayla as she is our most consistant player.

Maybe they could let her take a few steps back and shoot a jumper for her freebie.

Watched Duquesne game and the shot 1 of 13 treys in first half. He apparently tried a different approach at half as the girls came out relaxed and smiling. Hit their next 5 treys to start the 3rd qtr. They Won BUT Barely At GM 60 57.
Wow, forgot she missed her previous 2 free throws. So by odds, Jayla would make her next three. If that foul was called, we would have won.

However, I am of the school to not blame a loss or win on one call or shot, because it's how you play the whole game, and especially the last 10 minutes.

Jayla is our only above average player this year. She consistently draws the other teams best defender, and gets picked up and double teamed on picks. To hint at her as a problem of this years team is silly. If she had any help this year from her teammates, her scoring and shooting percentages would be much higher. Not to mention the fact that she plays so many minutes and is very leg tired by the fourth quarter. She and Lauren were both more effective last year when we had two other studs to carry some load.
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Yes this is nicely put instead of "trashing" individuals or the coaching staff for their use of substitutes this is not a supremely talented team so let's just ride out the season. This is a blog so I guess "trashing" people is the norm not the exception.
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So I'm silly because I called out all our players and coach. I'm not going to call your opinions silly or argue with you. Your welcome to your opinion.

This team has serious issues and deficiencies and I don't feel they are being addressed, period end of report.

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Yes this is nicely put instead of "trashing" individuals or the coaching staff for their use of substitutes this is not a supremely talented team so let's just ride out the season. This is a blog so I guess "trashing" people is the norm not the exception.
And you continue to see the team through red and blue glasses. I get it only say positive things about the players and team.

I will disagree that this team Is not talented as they do have the talent. Just don't feel the right players are seeing enough time. We need parimeter shooters yet one continues to sit the pine. Can she make a difference who knows but sitting the pine we'll never know.

So sorry for posting and keeping it real, I'll leave it to you experts with red blue glasses to keep it positive only. I'm out.
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Red and blue glasses hmmmm - I've been more critical during the broadcasts this year than I can remember BUT I'm NOT going to second guess who is in the game, I'm not going to second guess the starting lineup. I don't call you silly at all. Jayla is a good player, Lauren is a good player (who is in a miserable shooting slump) but there are no Mallott's, no Hoover's, no Daugherty's, no Ratermann's on this team to carry them through the rough times.
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