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ON AUGUST 2, 2016, PAUL MANAFORT GAVE KONSTANTIN KILIMNIK 75 PAGES OF RECENT, DETAILED POLLING DATA

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From Michael Cohen's opening statement:


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Sorry Swampy

For Swampy's sake - Cohen testifies he’s never been to Prague, shooting down key dossier claim. Sorry Swampy.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coh...-dossier-claim
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For Swampy's sake - Cohen testifies he’s never been to Prague, shooting down key dossier claim. Sorry Swampy.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coh...-dossier-claim

Swampys take- Cohen lied on this, told the truth on the rest. Keep up Mich, do your homework, and show your source
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Schiff announces his committee will hold a PUBLIC interview with Felix Sater on the Trump Tower Moscow project on March 14

Bear in mind that Felix Sater is:

-- Donald Trump's business partner on Trump Tower Russia

-- A convicted Russian felon

-- A former FBI informant
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So another convicted felon, who has an axe to grind. Wonderful, wonderful.
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Judge orders Roger Stone to explain imminent release of book that may violate gag order

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Democrat Coup

The Democrats colluded with the Russians, the FBI, Hillary, and the Justice Department - an ongoing coup
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Former Trump White House lawyer calls Mueller 'American hero,' says probe is no witch hunt

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Former Trump White House lawyer calls Mueller 'American hero,' says probe is no witch hunt

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...&ICID=ref_fark
What you failed to read is below:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...bQa?ocid=ientp

"...Cobb maintains a belief that his report will spare the president from any serious political harm."

"...The indictment against the Russian hackers was “highly detailed,” he said. “And there's no link to Trump or the campaign. The same thing with Manafort -- they just filed an 800-page sentencing memorandum, and in 800 pages there's no reference to collusion,” Cobb said..."
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Adam Schiff Hires a Former Russian Organized Crime Prosecutor to Lead the Trump Investigation

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Adam Schiff Hires a Former Russian Organized Crime Prosecutor to Lead the Trump Investigation

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...-investigation
There is audio of Schiff colluding with Russians to get dirt on Trump:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._from_fsb.html
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White House tells Dems it won't hand over Kushner security clearance docs

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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows View Post
Of course the Republicans say there was "no collusion." What did you expect them to say?

The Senate committee will come to the same conclusion because the GOP controls it as well.

Just because the Republicans say it does not mean it is so.

Statement by Congressman Adam Schiff: https://mobile.twitter.com/RepAdamSc...343168/photo/1

The only committee that really matters is Mueller's.
Could not agree with you more Swampy. Good call. No swing and miss on this one.


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It doesn’t matter what Gowdy says— Americans can rest assured that Robert Mueller has the evidence that Schiff was referring to and will present it at the appropriate time.
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The Dems are going to do themselves great harm if they continue to pursue this. I think Pelosi is smart enough to know this.
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What is Fake News CNN going to talk about for the next two years?
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The Dems are going to do themselves great harm if they continue to pursue this. I think Pelosi is smart enough to know this.
Problem is, as we’ve already seen, she can’t control the loons. Schiff, Nadler et.al. Have already signaled their desire to continue the hoax.
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https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russia...imes-a-million
Fantastic story from Rolling Stone mag writer (not exactly a conservative) on how the libs used lies and disinformation to promote the Russian collusion hoax. He gets into great detail of the origins of the fake dossier. Everyone needs to read this.
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Did all this stuff influence and delegitimize the mid-term elections results?
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We really need a 2 year investigation to figure that out.



Or perhaps a short common sense investigation, of course it did, and that is exactly what all this was about; a constant hunt for anything to legitimize anything that Trump did or wanted to do. I don't care if you are red or blue, this should scare the hell out of you.
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As for the President....

The President owes Mueller an apology. He has said awful things about Mueller over the many months, all untrue and highly offensive.

Now that the report is as highly favorable as could be imagined for the President, notice what he (DJT) has not been talking about. Mueller's report revealed in detail extensive activities by the Russian government to undermine our Democracy. Shouldn't any President be pouncing on that?

Recall that a major factor leading to Mueller is Trump's bizarre behavior toward Russia and Putin. If it were not for that there never would have been a Special Counsel.

Now Mueller has proof of Russian attempts to cause trouble for us. Trump at no time has acknowledged that. In light of Mueller's findings doesn't the President have an obligation to at the very least acknowledge the fact? Trump was willing to eagerly accept Mueller's other conclusions.
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The President owes Mueller an apology. He has said awful things about Mueller over the many months, all untrue and highly offensive.

Now that the report is as highly favorable as could be imagined for the President, notice what he (DJT) has not been talking about. Mueller's report revealed in detail extensive activities by the Russian government to undermine our Democracy. Shouldn't any President be pouncing on that?

Recall that a major factor leading to Mueller is Trump's bizarre behavior toward Russia and Putin. If it were not for that there never would have been a Special Counsel.

Now Mueller has proof of Russian attempts to cause trouble for us. Trump at no time has acknowledged that. In light of Mueller's findings doesn't the President have an obligation to at the very least acknowledge the fact? Trump was willing to eagerly accept Mueller's other conclusions.
You want "bizarre behavior"...Jerry Adler on ABC tonight "We can't rely on the hasty conclusions of Mueller's investigation!"
Hasty? Two years and 30 million...and it ain't over yet folks!
Webster doesn't have a word to describe Democrats' behavior.
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The President owes Mueller an apology. He has said awful things about Mueller over the many months, all untrue and highly offensive.

Now that the report is as highly favorable as could be imagined for the President, notice what he (DJT) has not been talking about. Mueller's report revealed in detail extensive activities by the Russian government to undermine our Democracy. Shouldn't any President be pouncing on that?

Recall that a major factor leading to Mueller is Trump's bizarre behavior toward Russia and Putin. If it were not for that there never would have been a Special Counsel.

Now Mueller has proof of Russian attempts to cause trouble for us. Trump at no time has acknowledged that. In light of Mueller's findings doesn't the President have an obligation to at the very least acknowledge the fact? Trump was willing to eagerly accept Mueller's other conclusions.
I don't even know where to start on this.......
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I don't even know where to start on this.......
I really thought the first sentence had to be a misprint, and then you read the rest of it and realize it isn't.

Unfortunately, I don't think there is a cure for TDS.
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Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
The President owes Mueller an apology. He has said awful things about Mueller over the many months, all untrue and highly offensive.

Now that the report is as highly favorable as could be imagined for the President, notice what he (DJT) has not been talking about. Mueller's report revealed in detail extensive activities by the Russian government to undermine our Democracy. Shouldn't any President be pouncing on that?

Recall that a major factor leading to Mueller is Trump's bizarre behavior toward Russia and Putin. If it were not for that there never would have been a Special Counsel.

Now Mueller has proof of Russian attempts to cause trouble for us. Trump at no time has acknowledged that. In light of Mueller's findings doesn't the President have an obligation to at the very least acknowledge the fact? Trump was willing to eagerly accept Mueller's other conclusions.
You’ve got to be kidding. You better learn something and read this very detailed article from a Rolling Stone mag writer. https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russia...imes-a-million
This was always a hoax perpetrated by the left and the DNC. It started with the bogus dossier.
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TDS is incurable for Never-Trumpers, as well as Democrats. Owes Mueller an apology? Wow!
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Fudd, JimBo, TA,...

Fudd doesn't even know where to start....JimBo thinks he's reading a misprint,....and TA suggests a very detailed reading lesson.

And all three see only evidence of Trump Derangement Syndrome....more like evidence of TWS...Trump Worship Syndrome.

I am able to read and have read Barr's letter and the entire Rolling Stone article. Re the former, as far as I'm concerned Mueller's investigation has exonerated the President as regards the Russian collusion matter. Good for the President; good for the Country. You guys remember Mueller....that scoundrel who is Comey's best friend; the guy who stacked his team with Democrats with only one mission and that was to frame Trump; the Mueller that Trump ripped to shreds at every opportunity for leading a witch hunt. That Mueller. The Mueller whose exceptionally thorough investigation turned out to be highly favorable to Trump.

But, as pointed out by Sen. Lindsey Graham today, among the report's important elements is Mueller's finding of extensive Russian attempts to influence the election and sow dissent among the population by way of social media and hacking. Efforts that have not slowed down. Graham is right. This is exceptionally important and constitutes a form of cyber warfare.

I don't recall Rolling Stone getting into that at all. Perhaps I missed it.

And, as I said, I don't recall hearing the President even acknowledging that it occurred and continues to occur.

But, wait, you guys are just aghast, just besides yourselves, over posts written by a guy suffering from TDS. Sheesh!
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UAC, you argued that this hoax was started by “by Trump’s bizarre behavior toward Russia”. You are wrong. That’s why I sent you the article. It details the origin of the hoax. It was a set up by Dems. They bought and paid for the dossier which led to the FISA warrant. It’s disgusting and there needs to be accountability for the lies told by these leftists.
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UAC, you argued that this hoax was started by “by Trump’s bizarre behavior toward Russia”. You are wrong. That’s why I sent you the article. It details the origin of the hoax. It was a set up by Dems. They bought and paid for the dossier which led to the FISA warrant. It’s disgusting and there needs to be accountability for the lies told by these leftists.
I understand what you are saying TA and for sure I agree that there needs to be accountability for what the WSJ is describing as the worst "dirty trick" in American history. It's bad and I hope to see perpetrators burn.

However, do you think anyone would have paid a second's attention to exactly the same hoax directed at Obama, Bush 43, Bush 41. Hell no!

What gave this slimy story legs was the fact that it was entirely believable when Trump was the target given his moral shortcomings, shall we say...given his absolutely crazy behavior toward Russia and Putin...and given his public statement that he fired his FBI director because of the Russian investigation. That was the last straw and appointment of a Special Counsel followed almost immediately. That's why I've said that Trump's behavior was central to the Mueller investigation.

The President's behavior re Russia has been peculiar in the extreme. And if he fails to act or at least speak out about Mueller's findings of Russia's ongoing attempts to medal in our election process and affairs generally his track record of strange behavior re Russia will remain intact.

(No doubt Fudd and JimBo are just apoplectic over such TDS-inspired reasoning.)
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I understand what you are saying TA and for sure I agree that there needs to be accountability for what the WSJ is describing as the worst "dirty trick" in American history. It's bad and I hope to see perpetrators burn.

However, do you think anyone would have paid a second's attention to exactly the same hoax directed at Obama, Bush 43, Bush 41. Hell no!

What gave this slimy story legs was the fact that it was entirely believable when Trump was the target given his moral shortcomings, shall we say...given his absolutely crazy behavior toward Russia and Putin...and given his public statement that he fired his FBI director because of the Russian investigation. That was the last straw and appointment of a Special Counsel followed almost immediately. That's why I've said that Trump's behavior was central to the Mueller investigation.

The President's behavior re Russia has been peculiar in the extreme. And if he fails to act or at least speak out about Mueller's findings of Russia's ongoing attempts to medal in our election process and affairs generally his track record of strange behavior re Russia will remain intact.

(No doubt Fudd and JimBo are just apoplectic over such TDS-inspired reasoning.)
This would have never happened to Obama because the leftist media would never have gone after him.
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And Bush?

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This would have never happened to Obama because the leftist media would never have gone after him.
But it would have happened to Bush or to Romney had he been elected. Yeah, right.

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We really need a 2 year investigation to figure that out.



Or perhaps a short common sense investigation, of course it did, and that is exactly what all this was about; a constant hunt for anything to legitimize anything that Trump did or wanted to do. I don't care if you are red or blue, this should scare the hell out of you.
Agree...very frightening...massive abuse of power.

And it still continues to this day.

They will not let this die. They need to just let it die and move on, but I guess that they feel that they are too invested in this hoax that they have to keep up the charade.

This whole thing is a steaming pile of garbage.

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I understand what you are saying TA and for sure I agree that there needs to be accountability for what the WSJ is describing as the worst "dirty trick" in American history. It's bad and I hope to see perpetrators burn.

However, do you think anyone would have paid a second's attention to exactly the same hoax directed at Obama, Bush 43, Bush 41. Hell no!

What gave this slimy story legs was the fact that it was entirely believable when Trump was the target given his moral shortcomings, shall we say...given his absolutely crazy behavior toward Russia and Putin...and given his public statement that he fired his FBI director because of the Russian investigation. That was the last straw and appointment of a Special Counsel followed almost immediately. That's why I've said that Trump's behavior was central to the Mueller investigation.

The President's behavior re Russia has been peculiar in the extreme. And if he fails to act or at least speak out about Mueller's findings of Russia's ongoing attempts to medal in our election process and affairs generally his track record of strange behavior re Russia will remain intact.

(No doubt Fudd and JimBo are just apoplectic over such TDS-inspired reasoning.)
I do not believe any of that. I think the Dems were the root cause of this investigation that was designed to cast Trump in a bad light and damage him as much as possible.

And it worked IMO, the Dems won the House.

And the Dems now also have a path to dig up more potential dirt on Trump courtesy of the investigative leads created by Mueller.

The investigations will continue into other non-Russian collusion areas.

This whole thing is about trying to destroy Trump in any possible way.

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OK, what comes next...

So, the media will continue its effort to undermine Trump and cover their tracks.

And the Dems will dig their own grave if they keep after him and, godforbid, pursue impeachment.

And Saint Trump, thinking only of himself, now "exonerated", will go back to being Trump. He will continue to ignore Russian behavior.

But what about AG Barr. His first job was to report on what Mueller reported re collusion. But doesn't the Justice Department have an obligation to follow up on other things Mueller reported, e.g., the Clinton-initiated hoax and the way the Comey-led FBI/Justice guys ran with it?

Barr works for Trump but an AG's responsibility is to uphold the Constitution not to do the President's bidding. After the dust settles a bit I will be very disappointed if AG Barr doesn't go after Clinton Campaign/FBI/Justice as well as Russia. Collusion was a side show compared to who/what started all this and ongoing Russian cyber warfare.
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Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
But it would have happened to Bush or to Romney had he been elected. Yeah, right.
You seem to forget “binders of women” and a dog on his car. Yes, something similar would have happened. These leftists have no shame. Just listen to them today. They don’t care that there is no evidence.
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You seem to forget “binders of women” and a dog on his car. Yes, something similar would have happened. These leftists have no shame. Just listen to them today. They don’t care that there is no evidence.
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And 9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by the GWB administration.

And the GWB administration doctored the evidence as a pretext for the second Iraq war.

There would have been some unsubstantiated charge made.

This is not about Trump, it is about attacking the opposition no matter who they are.

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And 9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by the GWB administration.

And the GWB administration doctored the evidence as a pretext for the second Iraq war.

There would have been some unsubstantiated charge made.

This is not about Trump, it is about attacking the opposition no matter who they are.
I didn't the the 9/11 conspiracy was the leftists, but just a bunch of nuts. (are they different?)

I don't believe they "doctored" the evidence, but they used very shaky evidence to justify the war.
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I didn't the the 9/11 conspiracy was the leftists, but just a bunch of nuts. (are they different?)

I don't believe they "doctored" the evidence, but they used very shaky evidence to justify the war.
Poll: 50% of Democrats believe that GWB was involved in 9/11.

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Poll: 50% of Democrats believe that GWB was involved in 9/11.

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Extreme polarization

We are in a period where "bipartisanism" seems to be nonexistent no matter the issue. Instead of the "other party" being made up of Congressional colleagues or fellow Americans having a different point of view re many issues, instead they are the "enemy".

Surely, that's not in the best interests of the country.

Seems to me that's where Presidential leadership can be/should be very valuable. Reagan style leadership.

President Trump could be playing a lead role in this regard, i.e., acting in a way that helps unite the Country. Is he doing that?
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We can all agree that foreign interference in our elections is bad. Where Americans disagree is who is doing the foreign interference. If its Russia everybody finds that interference unacceptable. If its Honduran and Mexican illegals voting in our political system, to some that interference is justified.
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Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
We are in a period where "bipartisanism" seems to be nonexistent no matter the issue. Instead of the "other party" being made up of Congressional colleagues or fellow Americans having a different point of view re many issues, instead they are the "enemy".

Surely, that's not in the best interests of the country.

Seems to me that's where Presidential leadership can be/should be very valuable. Reagan style leadership.

President Trump could be playing a lead role in this regard, i.e., acting in a way that helps unite the Country. Is he doing that?
So the Dems perpetrate one of the great hoaxes of our time to attempt a coup and now we should look the other way.and not investigate what lead to this mess? Yea right. We need to get to the bottom of the deep state that attempted this nonsense and clean house.
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Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
We are in a period where "bipartisanism" seems to be nonexistent no matter the issue. Instead of the "other party" being made up of Congressional colleagues or fellow Americans having a different point of view re many issues, instead they are the "enemy".

Surely, that's not in the best interests of the country.

Seems to me that's where Presidential leadership can be/should be very valuable. Reagan style leadership.

President Trump could be playing a lead role in this regard, i.e., acting in a way that helps unite the Country. Is he doing that?
From where I sit, he sure has. The Trump haters do not care. They try to prosecute him, vote against everything substantial he proposes, call him mentally ill, investigate him and his family, call him a racist, and on and on. This is not about leadership. You cannot lead Trump haters, because all they want is him gone. Romney is a perfect example. He takes his seat and immediately votes no. Hard to lead hateful people.
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True, but,...

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We can all agree that foreign interference in our elections is bad. Where Americans disagree is who is doing the foreign interference. If its Russia everybody finds that interference unacceptable. If its Honduran and Mexican illegals voting in our political system, to some that interference is justified.
I didn't detect even the slightest uncertainty in Mueller's report re who is doing the interference. It's the Russians.

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So the Dems perpetrate one of the great hoaxes of our time to attempt a coup and now we should look the other way.and not investigate what lead to this mess? Yea right. We need to get to the bottom of the deep state that attempted this nonsense and clean house.
If you look qt my post #634 just a few above I urge AG Barr to investigate who initiated the hoax and who fell for it and acted on it. I said he had an obligation to do so.

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From where I sit, he sure has. The Trump haters do not care. They try to prosecute him, vote against everything substantial he proposes, call him mentally ill, investigate him and his family, call him a racist, and on and on. This is not about leadership. You cannot lead Trump haters, because all they want is him gone. Romney is a perfect example. He takes his seat and immediately votes no. Hard to lead hateful people.
The Trump haters do not care, I agree. Any more than you can reason with Trump's cadre of blind supporters. But most Americans do not fall in either category. Most long for bipartisan solutions to the Nation's problems. A President can lead in this regard by making an effort to bring both sides toward the middle. When it is obvious to Americans that a President is playing a centrist, conciliatory role...a compromising role..a leadership role....it is very hard for the opposition to stay on the attack. Voters see through that.

The President has been handed a golden opportunity by Mueller's apparent exoneration of the collusion matter. Were he to be magnanimous, even gracious, toward those that oppose him, including the media, the President could make their continued efforts appear foolish and mean spirited. The voters would see that clearly. Or, the President can follow the "get even" path and seek revenge....further deepening the animosity felt so strongly by the opposition.

Which path is best for the Country? Which path will the President follow...as if we didn't know.
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You want "bizarre behavior"...Jerry Adler on ABC tonight "We can't rely on the hasty conclusions of Mueller's investigation!"
Hasty? Two years and 30 million...and it ain't over yet folks!
Webster doesn't have a word to describe Democrats' behavior.
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Here’s what I don’t understand, The economy has rarely been better. Taxes are lower almost across the board. Unemployment is at record low levels. The Supreme Court is following the Constitution. Unnecessary and uncompetitive government regulations are being curtailed. Illegal aliens are being stopped. The lies of a Russian collusion hoax have been exposed. The stock market is roaring. Inflation is controlled. Interest rates are kept low. The Chinese are being held accountable for a gross imbalance in trade, theft of intellectual property and unfair technology transference. ISIS has been CRUSHED. We are disentangling from interminable foreign wars. We are finally at least talking with North Korea. Israel is being supported. The crazy individual mandate of Obamacare has been rolled back. Consumer confidence is the highest in 17 years. GDP is >3%. Wages are rising. Food stamps are greatly reduced. Investment is flooding back to the US. Manufacturing is building back. Median household income is at post recession record levels. The hoards of economic migrants seeking billions in free benefits are being addressed. Etc., etc.,etc..........How does this benefit Russia??????
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Here’s what I don’t understand, The economy has rarely been better. Taxes are lower almost across the board. Unemployment is at record low levels. The Supreme Court is following the Constitution. Unnecessary and uncompetitive government regulations are being curtailed. Illegal aliens are being stopped. The lies of a Russian collusion hoax have been exposed. The stock market is roaring. Inflation is controlled. Interest rates are kept low. The Chinese are being held accountable for a gross imbalance in trade, theft of intellectual property and unfair technology transference. ISIS has been CRUSHED. We are disentangling from interminable foreign wars. We are finally at least talking with North Korea. Israel is being supported. The crazy individual mandate of Obamacare has been rolled back. Consumer confidence is the highest in 17 years. GDP is >3%. Wages are rising. Food stamps are greatly reduced. Investment is flooding back to the US. Manufacturing is building back. Median household income is at post recession record levels. The hoards of economic migrants seeking billions in free benefits are being addressed. Etc., etc.,etc..........How does this benefit Russia??????
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Here’s what I don’t understand, The economy has rarely been better. Taxes are lower almost across the board. Unemployment is at record low levels. The Supreme Court is following the Constitution. Unnecessary and uncompetitive government regulations are being curtailed. Illegal aliens are being stopped. The lies of a Russian collusion hoax have been exposed. The stock market is roaring. Inflation is controlled. Interest rates are kept low. The Chinese are being held accountable for a gross imbalance in trade, theft of intellectual property and unfair technology transference. ISIS has been CRUSHED. We are disentangling from interminable foreign wars. We are finally at least talking with North Korea. Israel is being supported. The crazy individual mandate of Obamacare has been rolled back. Consumer confidence is the highest in 17 years. GDP is >3%. Wages are rising. Food stamps are greatly reduced. Investment is flooding back to the US. Manufacturing is building back. Median household income is at post recession record levels. The hoards of economic migrants seeking billions in free benefits are being addressed. Etc., etc.,etc..........How does this benefit Russia??????
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Not to mention why isn't this being shouted from the highest mountain top by the MSM. <rhetorical question>
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Some on Mueller’s Team See Their Findings as More Damaging for Trump Than Barr Revealed

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/u...port-barr.html

Some of Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators have told associates that Attorney General William P. Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and that they were more troubling for President Trump than Mr. Barr indicated, according to government officials and others familiar with their simmering frustrations.

At stake in the dispute — the first evidence of tension between Mr. Barr and the special counsel’s office — is who shapes the public’s initial understanding of one of the most consequential government investigations in American history. Some members of Mr. Mueller’s team are concerned that, because Mr. Barr created the first narrative of the special counsel’s findings, Americans’ views will have hardened before the investigation’s conclusions become public.
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A tad overstated

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Sounds great...better than it is actually.

Re the "economy rarely better than ever',...after a surge GDP growth is sliding....2.2% in the most recent quarter and likely lower in the first Q of 2019 and forecasts call for a return to about 2% growth. Hopefully forecasts are wrong and there will soon be a pick up. But considering that the average GDP growth was well over 3% for many years...."rarely better" is really a stretch. And as they say, "It's the economy, stupid".

Re the "Russian collusion lies"....I think waiting for the full Mueller report is a really good idea.

Immigration "hordes" being addressed? Surely not Trump's fault...but this is a roaring issue that is far from being "effectively addressed".

And Russia? Russia is running wild!..and unchallenged. A key element of Mueller's report is confirmation of Russian intrusion into U.S. affairs which not only is going unchallenged, the Administration isn't even acknowledging it, not even a word.

As for both Russia and China, Trump's policies are driving European and Asian allies toward Russia and China as the U.S. withdraws from those regions, militarily, politically, economically.

And Korea....no meaningful change whatsoever.

For sure, plenty of good things have happened....but plenty of things are pretty sour....and what is always a killer is "uncertainty" about the future. And there is much of that given the erratic unpredictable nature of DJT's approach to just about everything.
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EXCLUSIVE: Nunes sending 8 criminal referrals to DOJ covering FISA abuse, misleading Congress

EXCLUSIVE: Nunes sending 8 criminal referrals to DOJ covering FISA abuse, misleading Congress.

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EXCLUSIVE: Nunes sending 8 criminal referrals to DOJ covering FISA abuse, misleading Congress.
I think it is outstanding that Devin Nunes is self-reporting the many abuses he conducted as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee.

Meanwhile, Nunes is suing McClatchy for $150 million "alleging conspiracy to derail Clinton, Russia probes." Among other things, a McClatchy reporter had the audacity to bold three words in this tweet!



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Can someone please tell me what happened to this Russian collusion thingy?
The evidence is still in plain sight per Schiff.

So much speculation, so little evidence.
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The evidence is still in plain sight per Schiff.

So much speculation, so little evidence.
Every lawyer I've heard opine on Barr's 4 page summary of "exoneration" referred to the wording as "lawyer speak", i.e., insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges. That's good, of course.

But, I'm sure Priders will agree that it's not exactly a feather in a President's cap that he's not a criminal. We set the bar a tad higher than that.

In a week Barr will release his more complete (redacted) version of Mueller's findings. Hopefully the conclusion will remain unchanged. But until that report is released it seems like a good idea to hold off on final conclusions....unless of course your mind was made up from the beginning.
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I do not discount that the other side may ultimately be found to have been involved with Russia collusion. As our friend Swampy has demonstrated many times- Trump Derangement Syndrome is a powerful illness, and it seems some individuals in politics and also powerful agencies went too far to destroy him and his presidency.
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Overanalyzing legal jargon is just another Dem ploy to keep 'collusion' alive.

OJ Simpson was found 'not-guilty' of killing his ex...which doesn't mean he's 'innocent'.

Here at the EPA we analyze air/water/soil all the time and never, ever in a gazillion years (although we only have 12 years to live ) will we ever look at the sampling results and say that Arsenic is non-existent or isn't present nor will the reports say Arsenic is "0 parts-per-billion". Instead is just says 'ND' meaning 'not-detect'...which means that it may be present but current technology can't find it.

'No evidence of collusion' can mean whatever you want. sWimpy thinks it means 2 more years of investigations...Sir Fudd thinks it means it's time to look at Hillary.

To me, it's just Semantics, but we all know what it really means...don't we?
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https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2...racy-theories/

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The Democrats are literally making fools of themselves and do not know it. They believe that they are superior. They believe and are fully convinced that there’s collusion in there and that somehow it’s being covered up and that they’re gonna be able to get Barr to reveal it.
Barr is unflappable, he’s unmoved, and you know what he’s learned? I was telling Mr. Snerdley earlier, William Barr has learned to suffer fools. Some people can’t. Some people don’t have any patience with idiots, and they cannot hide the fact that they know they’re dealing with idiots. Bill Barr knows that he’s dealing with imbalanced, out-of-balance people here, but he doesn’t betray that he knows that.

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The Democrats are literally making fools of themselves and do not know it. They believe that they are superior. They believe and are fully convinced that there’s collusion in there and that somehow it’s being covered up and that they’re gonna be able to get Barr to reveal it.
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OK, sounds as if you're crediting Barr with being a smart guy who understands what he's dealing with. I have no reason to believe otherwise. That means he understands that the way he presents his complete findings matters greatly....greatly. He cannot leave his redacted report open to all sorts of criticism by reasonable people. Evidence that he understands that is provided by his statement that the redacted portions of his report will be color-coded with explanations provided explaining the reasons for the specific redactions. I've never heard of that before.

So let'w wait for his report before reaching conclusions. Surely there are those who will never be satisfied. But they are well known, A larger number of people will be satisfied....let's see what they conclude....the wait won't be long.

Seems possible that Barr's summary that there are no grounds for indictment (even for obstruction, though he did not say that) will hold up. But if that's the case it hardly serves as vindication of acceptable Presidential behavior if the report is replete with examples of inappropriate borderline behavior. Again, let's wait.
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After hearing Barr's comments and seeing all the details regarding Hillary, Bleachbit (actual day and time it was conducted) I decided to take one for the team and watch Rachel Maddow last night, wondering if she'd touch on anything remotely related to any news from the right. I always get both sides to a story before forming a royal opinion (hint, hint sWimpy)

After the torturous 20 min was up (that's all I could take)...20 min where she uncomfortably laughed about Barr 'changing his story by the second', collusion, collusion, collusion, and changed the channel back to the Reds game and was left wondering who the hell watches that woman and how can take her seriously. Hannity has his weaknesses, but Rachel is the epitome of awkward.
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After hearing Barr's comments and seeing all the details regarding Hillary, Bleachbit (actual day and time it was conducted) I decided to take one for the team and watch Rachel Maddow last night, wondering if she'd touch on anything remotely related to any news from the right. I always get both sides to a story before forming a royal opinion (hint, hint sWimpy)

After the torturous 20 min was up (that's all I could take)...20 min where she uncomfortably laughed about Barr 'changing his story by the second', collusion, collusion, collusion, and changed the channel back to the Reds game and was left wondering who the hell watches that woman and how can take her seriously. Hannity has his weaknesses, but Rachel is the epitome of awkward.
I wouldn't have lasted 20 minutes....but she's no worse than Hannity. I can't do 20 with him either.
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The evidence is still in plain sight per Schiff.

So much speculation, so little evidence.
With Congressman Schiff's bugged out eyes ... you just known he is holding something back .
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Overanalyzing legal jargon is just another Dem ploy to keep 'collusion' alive.

OJ Simpson was found 'not-guilty' of killing his ex...which doesn't mean he's 'innocent'.

Here at the EPA we analyze air/water/soil all the time and never, ever in a gazillion years (although we only have 12 years to live ) will we ever look at the sampling results and say that Arsenic is non-existent or isn't present nor will the reports say Arsenic is "0 parts-per-billion". Instead is just says 'ND' meaning 'not-detect'...which means that it may be present but current technology can't find it.

'No evidence of collusion' can mean whatever you want. sWimpy thinks it means 2 more years of investigations...Sir Fudd thinks it means it's time to look at Hillary.

To me, it's just Semantics, but we all know what it really means...don't we?
Sir Fudd has thought for the last 2-3 years that the Hillary "investigation" was a complete scam all on it's own and should have been investigated as soon as the FBI cabal had been removed from power. Sir Fudd did not believe that for any other reason than reasons provided by emerging evidence of foul play, such as text messages and testimony from the "investigators" themselves.

Sir Fudd's belief that we had been scammed by the FBI in both the Hillary and Trump investigations can be marked in time by the start of the FBI Colonoscopy thread.

All you have to do is pay attention to the evidence as it is revealed to us.

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An American political consultant has pleaded guilty to funneling illegal money from a pro-Russia Ukrainian politician to the Trump inaugural committee

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W. Samuel Patten, 47, in August admitted steering $50,000 from a pro-Russian Ukrainian politician to Trump’s committee in an investigation spun off from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election. Patten acknowledged he was helped by a Russian national who is a longtime associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and the case was referred to prosecutors with the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington and the Justice Department’s national security division.
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Nothing to see here, right Trumpsters?



But Deutsche Bank execs who saw the transactions failed to report them:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/b...p-kushner.html

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Nothing to see here, right Trumpsters?


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Why would a presidential advisor be making payments to Russians?
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Why would a presidential advisor be making payments to Russians?
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For a load of vodka, maybe?
While you're asking "why," why don't you ask why Democrats think that the key to retaking the oval office is to discredit and impeach Trump by any means available from brainless loud mouths like Maxine Waters to federal agencies?
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What the heck is with this huge Russian obsession? The only thing I can figure out is that many were raised during the cold war, and hating Russia is in our blood. Russia is such a minor threat compared to China and Iran. Of course once again, many Americans and politicians waste their time on the wrong topic, while China eats our lunch. Maybe the millennials can wake us up to focus on the right countries, but it is already very late in the game.

It's China!!
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Cohen told lawmakers Trump attorney Jay Sekulow encouraged him to falsely claim Moscow project ended in January 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.b581cbb68ba2

Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former longtime personal attorney, told a House panel during closed-door hearings earlier this year that he had been encouraged by Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow to falsely claim in a 2017 statement to Congress that negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow ended in January 2016, according to transcripts of his testimony released Monday evening.

In fact, Cohen later admitted, discussions on the Moscow tower continued into June of the presidential election year, after it was clear Trump would be the GOP nominee. Cohen is serving three years in prison for lying to Congress, financial crimes and campaign finance violations.
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Who Believes Liar Cohen

Who believes Liar Cohen?

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Cohen told lawmakers Trump attorney Jay Sekulow encouraged him to falsely claim Moscow project ended in January 2016
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-michael-cohen

Trump personal attorney denies claim from Michael Cohen he directed jailed lawyer to lie about Trump Tower Moscow project'

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Cohen has emails, voicemails and documents—I believe him
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Liar Cohen Lies Again

“Michael Cohen’s alleged statements are more of the same from him and confirm the observations of prosecutors in the Southern District of New York that Cohen’s ‘instinct to blame others is strong’,” a statement from Jane Serene Raskin and Patrick Strawbridge, attorneys for Jay A. Sekulow, read.

“That this or any Committee would rely on the word of Michael Cohen for any purpose – much less to try and pierce the attorney-client privilege and discover confidential communications of four respected lawyers – defies logic, well-established law and common sense.”

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Rex Tillerson Secretly Meets With House Foreign Affairs Committee to Talk Trump

The former secretary of state talked with lawmakers about his time with the president and the frictions he had with the president’s son-in-law.

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What is the big deal with Russia??
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A very big deal

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I don't know if your remark was in reference to something specific, Jack. But Putin's Russia is a very big deal. Romney was right. Russia is the biggest threat to America.

Putin is using every instrument of his government power to weaken Democracy worldwide. He longs for the past glory of the Soviet Union. When he said that the collapse of the SU was the worst thing ever to have happened, or somthing to that effect, he meant every word of it.

Putin is a revanchist in the extreme. Russia being very weak economically, Putin is resorting to every means he possible to weaken Western democracy.
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I don't know if your remark was in reference to something specific, Jack. But Putin's Russia is a very big deal. Romney was right. Russia is the biggest threat to America.

Putin is using every instrument of his government power to weaken Democracy worldwide. He longs for the past glory of the Soviet Union. When he said that the collapse of the SU was the worst thing ever to have happened, or somthing to that effect, he meant every word of it.

Putin is a revanchist in the extreme. Russia being very weak economically, Putin is resorting to every means he possible to weaken Western democracy.
My point is Putin and Russia are important, but not worth all the rhetoric and negative attention given to them by the media, politicians and bloggers. This phony Russia stuff takes the eye off the main balls of China and Iran. Russia is nothing compared to the US, China and several other countries. We need to stop with the bull**** Russia fiction and focus on real problems. Who cares if someone talked to a Russian or a Chinese or a Cuban.
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If the Democratic Party abandons this contrived Russia collusion thing, what are they going to do with themselves? They have no platform.

This is why they have taken a turn into Bizarro-world with issuing subpoenas to everyone in Washington DC, attacking Trumps family and anyone who was involved in his campaign. If he had a dog, they would subpoena it.

What are they "overseeing" that is of national interest?

Just like they have gone on the offensive with Barr, they have decided to go on a scorched earth offensive from the House of Representatives. Why? I believe this all goes back to the FBI/Deep State Colonoscopy. There is so much evidence that is going to be released to the public that demonstrates the magnitude of the scandal that the Democrats need to create something equally spectacular for the news cycle. They need to keep the Mueller investigation going in some way and prevent the CNN's of the world from having to focus on the FBI/DOJ scandal.

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