Who's up next???

[SLUFLYER]

Go hire Pat Kelsey

[m21eagle45]

Tom Crean? This late in the game, he made actually be a good retread hire. Still a big name and big success at Marquette.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER Go hire Pat Kelsey

This might be why he bailed on UMass.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[BRob2Perryman3]

been a half hour and two new Archie threads....lets all start an Archie thread

[C-time]

Hire a coach who plans to upgrade to a better job in 5 to 6 years. Don't hire a retread. Hire a climber.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Hire from within.....

[NCkevi]

Hire an Archie assistant and keep the recruits

[shocka43]

Just tell the players to stay away from Kelsey's wife.

[Tony T 71]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan Hire from within.....

If we don't we will lose the entire class plus Kostas

[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by shocka43 Just tell the players to stay away from Kelsey's wife.

I have a hard time believing this stuff. Do you have an inside source or could you PM?

Im aware of the Holloway stuff, so i specifically know what you are referencing.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Does Kelsey have a UD connection

[NCkevi]

After this all plays out it will be interesting to compare the rosters, talent wise, 2011–12 vs. 2017-18.

[shocka43]

From reading on Kelsey, I am not a fan....

Left Xavier as an assistant siting "personal reasons" when there were rumors flying about his wife....

Goes to Winthrop...Signs a deal with UMass....then promptly reneges on the deal...citing personal reasons....and his wife's happiness...

If this guy honestly didn't have issues and cited "personal reasons" due to bad timing and other job openings coming up...then he just isn't that smart to have committed in the first place.

Got a feeling there is baggage here.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[shocka43]

Interesting take from a Massachusetts area blog...and obviously they were wrong about the Indiana thing...

http://turtleboysports.com/pat-kelse...ife-being-sad/

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[dnutz77]

Anthony Grant??? Think he would stay for awhile.....
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[dnutz77]

And Grant has NBA ties so maybe he can entice the recruits to stay!!??
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[FlyerGuyer]

Tom Crean baby. There will always be opportunities to hire a young climber, and it's always a bit of a risk. Crean has connections and is a good fit IMO. He wants to coach again right away. He was decent at IU. He took Marquette to the Final Four, and all the recruits know Dwyane Wade.

[steve snyder]

You are asking for Jim Brian all over again....no way Hosea. Their fans hated him. Can't coach out of a wet bag.

[kiefaber455]

I've been an Anthony Grant fan for a long time. Always thought he was a class act.
Wonder what Donoher would say.

	Don Donoher DON DONOHER Legendary Flyer men's basketball coach who guided Dayton to 435 victories in 25 seasons (1964-1989) including the 1967 NCAA Runner-Up. Took over the program after the passing of Tom Blackburn and earned many NCAA and NIT bids over his career, including five Sweet-16s, one Elite Eight appearance, and the 1968 NIT Championship. Groomed All-Americans Don May and Jim Paxson, along with all-time leading scorer Roosevelt Chapman. Coached UD as they joined conference affiliation for the first time (Midwest Collegiate). A graduate of UD, Donoher played for Blackburn and credits much of his coaching success to his mentor's teachings: defense, ball protection, patience, and unselfishness.

[FlyerGuyer]

Originally Posted by steve snyder You are asking for Jim Brian all over again....no way Hosea. Their fans hated him.

Their fans hate anyone not named Bob Knight. They will probably hate Archie in four years. Crean is way more proven than JOB, who never held a D 1 head coaching job before coming to UD.

[ud2]

I am advocating for hiring from within.

[udfanatic]

kelsey would be a terrible hire. He obviously is willing to leave a program quickly and he is damaged goods. Is. Dan Fife, a Tom Izzo assistant should be considered.
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[NCkevi]

Sullivan and Spina on MBB position

National Search begins immediately

http://daytonflyers.com/news/2017/3/...-position.aspx

[The Price is Wright]

Dane Fife would be a good coach here.
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[Sea Bass]

the flyers should not hire an assistant unless they are absolutely sold

[TXFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by Sea Bass the flyers should not hire an assistant unless they are absolutely sold

If it were an assistant from Duke or NC, I'm listening.

[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by The Price is Wright Dane Fife would be a good coach here. Posted via Mobile Device

What makes you think that? In six years at IPFW he went 82–97 - the 2 coaches to follow him, in 5 years, have a combined 92-72 record

[Class of 73 Alum]

Anybody for JTIII?

[OSU Flyer]

Joe Pasternak at Arizona would be a good choice. I'd really like Travis Steele from Xavier

Hiring from within just hold to recruits isn't a good idea or hiring someone just because you think they'll stick around isn't either

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan If it were an assistant from Duke or NC, I'm listening.

Wonder if Xavier fans thought the same thing when they continually hired from within? I think they have been pretty well off...

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Rubber_City_Flyer]

Originally Posted by Sea Bass the flyers should not hire an assistant unless they are absolutely sold

Agree, cannot hire a current assistant based on keeping recruits. Should be more of a long term view taken by the Administration.

[Viperstick]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer Joe Pasternak at Arizona would be a good choice. I'd really like Travis Steele from Xavier Hiring from within just hold to recruits isn't a good idea or hiring someone just because you think they'll stick around isn't either

I met Travis at the Philly Airport Marriott a couple of years ago. Not impressed.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Piqua Flyer '66]

So, it came down to
$$$$ and UD could not
come close enough to what
IU offered? OR, $$$$
not an issue, AM just
wanted a BIG CONF job?

[Piqua Flyer '66]

Kelsey walks out on
UMASS for another
A10 job? Bad idea UD

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[TXFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 So, it came down to $$$$ and UD could not come close enough to what IU offered? OR, $$$$ not an issue, AM just wanted a BIG CONF job?

Guessing the latter, but could be a combo

[TXFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 Kelsey walks out on UMASS for another A10 job? Bad idea UD

Didn't Kelsey back out because he's staying at Winthrop?

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[OSU Flyer]

Pasternak has head coaching experience and was a big time recruiter for Sean Miller. He was the lead guy on the number one guy in the country

[Bill Elwood]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 So, it came down to $$$$ and UD could not come close enough to what IU offered? OR, $$$$ not an issue, AM just wanted a BIG CONF job?

BOTH!

[The Fly]

For what it's worth: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...c1585zxmvw2gzx

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by shocka43 Wonder if Xavier fans thought the same thing when they continually hired from within? I think they have been pretty well off...

I know nothing about Ostrom, Griffin, or Kuwik. That said, about the only "out of work head coach" I'd consider would be Anthony Grant. He's shown he can win at this level (while at VCU), he has connections in the NBA, and he's a class act. Beyond him as a candidate, there's a lot to be said for continuity in a program at our level (see Butler, X, etc.).

[MikeF]

For reference, with dates taken from Wikipedia or other super-quick Google hit:

04/05/03: Clemson names Purnell head coach
04/09/03: Dayton names Gregory head coach [four days]
03/28/11: Georgia Tech names Gregory head coach
04/03/11: Dayton names Miller head coach [six days]
03/25/11: Indiana names Miller head coach

	Brian Gregory BRIAN GREGORY UD Men's Basketball Head Coach since 2004. Groomed by the likes of Judd Heathcoate and Tom Izzo at Michigan State, as well as Kevin O'Neill and others, Gregory's defensive-minded leadership has led Dayton to NCAA and multiple NIT appearances. A good recruiter, BG has elevated the athleticism of the squad in recent years and kept top area talent at home. Still looking for that breakthrough season with his own players that catapult him to the NCAA tourney. Graduated from Oakland University.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan Didn't Kelsey back out because he's staying at Winthrop?

Sure...until the next "offer he can't refuse" comes along...until he refuses it.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by MikeF For reference, with dates taken from Wikipedia or other super-quick Google hit: 04/05/03: Clemson names Purnell head coach 04/09/03: Dayton names Gregory head coach [four days] 03/28/11: Georgia Tech names Gregory head coach 04/03/11: Dayton names Miller head coach [six days] 03/25/11: Indiana names Miller head coach

I can just see all the "Dayton Names New Head Coach" announcements coming out...on April Fool's Day. Great...

	Brian Gregory BRIAN GREGORY UD Men's Basketball Head Coach since 2004. Groomed by the likes of Judd Heathcoate and Tom Izzo at Michigan State, as well as Kevin O'Neill and others, Gregory's defensive-minded leadership has led Dayton to NCAA and multiple NIT appearances. A good recruiter, BG has elevated the athleticism of the squad in recent years and kept top area talent at home. Still looking for that breakthrough season with his own players that catapult him to the NCAA tourney. Graduated from Oakland University.

[MD Flyer Pride]

I am really hoping for Anthony Grant. It might be a long shot; however, I love his UD roots, success as VCU head coach, assistant at Florida under Billy Donovan and NBA assistant job.

I think he is able to keep most recruits with his NBA ties and UD history.

Here's to hoping!

Go Flyers!

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer ...Hiring from within just hold to recruits isn't a good idea or hiring someone just because you think they'll stick around isn't either

I wouldn't hire from within just to keep recruits. My priorities for hiring from within would be (a) if I thought we already had the right coach in-house, (b) at our level, continuity is important to sustained success, and (c) more of our recruits would be more likely to stay, thus supporting Point (b) and helping to prove-out Point (a).

[UD62]

Don't know if AG would be in the hunt or not. It would be nice to get a coach that has a real possibility of being a UD lifer though. Not advocating for AG, just see the possibility of of a real long term committment as a plus.

[Tony T 71]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 I can just see all the "Dayton Names New Head Coach" announcements coming out...on April Fool's Day. Great...

I hope we have a coach before then

[TommyGola]

I just spoke with an insider at UD...very much an insider, and we have arrived at our decision on the new coach - Anthony Grant. Keep the assistants and let a class guy like Anthony. Turn him loose on these recruits and nail them down.

[jumpin' joe]

Do you think _avier screwed us by continuing to win NCAA tournament games. I was hoping Indiana would go for Chris Mack, but apparently the Hoosier folks are smarter than I thought.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by udfanatic kelsey would be a terrible hire. He obviously is willing to leave a program quickly and he is damaged goods. Is. Dan Fife, a Tom Izzo assistant should be considered. Posted via Mobile Device

Dane Fife would be an excellent choice if UD does not hire from within - still my first choice would be that, hire from within...

[jumpin' joe]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 Dane Fife would be an excellent choice if UD does not hire from within - still my first choice would be that, hire from within...

I say NO to MSU assistants!

[TXFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 Dane Fife would be an excellent choice if UD does not hire from within - still my first choice would be that, hire from within...

Our last MSU assistant was a great guy and good recruiter but not so great game day coach. Why Fife? And has the Izzo tree produced any outstanding coaches anywhere else?

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by TommyGola I just spoke with an insider at UD...very much an insider, and we have arrived at our decision on the new coach - Anthony Grant. Keep the assistants and let a class guy like Anthony. Turn him loose on these recruits and nail them down.

I just sent an email to Neil Sullivan to this effect (Yes I did!). I think Anthony could hold on to most of those recruits.

[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 Dane Fife would be an excellent choice if UD does not hire from within - still my first choice would be that, hire from within...

Fife in six years at IPFW went 82–97 - the 2 coaches to follow him, in 5 years, have a combined 92-72 record

I see nothing to convince me he can be a good coach at UD

[Bucketnight]

Originally Posted by TommyGola I just spoke with an insider at UD...very much an insider, and we have arrived at our decision on the new coach - Anthony Grant. Keep the assistants and let a class guy like Anthony. Turn him loose on these recruits and nail them down.

All right, we are all susceptible to being fooled in our emotional state. Is this "our" just your and your insider's belief or is "our" the University?

There was a line in the Indiana release where Archie said he would lay out his plan for Indiana and show his appreciation to Dayton on Monday. When I read it, I wondered if that had anything to do with a quick transition already in place. But I resigned myself to it just meaning he would say thanks.

[Swampy Meadows]

It's AG for me. I like the idea of keeping all of Archie's assistants in place.

AG would definitely get the Don Donoher seal of approval.
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	Don Donoher DON DONOHER Legendary Flyer men's basketball coach who guided Dayton to 435 victories in 25 seasons (1964-1989) including the 1967 NCAA Runner-Up. Took over the program after the passing of Tom Blackburn and earned many NCAA and NIT bids over his career, including five Sweet-16s, one Elite Eight appearance, and the 1968 NIT Championship. Groomed All-Americans Don May and Jim Paxson, along with all-time leading scorer Roosevelt Chapman. Coached UD as they joined conference affiliation for the first time (Midwest Collegiate). A graduate of UD, Donoher played for Blackburn and credits much of his coaching success to his mentor's teachings: defense, ball protection, patience, and unselfishness.

[Bucketnight]

Originally Posted by The Fly For what it's worth: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-bas...c1585zxmvw2gzx

First, I think it is good news that we are in a position that this quickly a reputable national outlet is speculating on our coaching search.

Second, I was surprised that Anthony Grant wouldn't be on the list. And not saying he would or should be considered but I would have thought King Rice would have been mentioned.

The list seems geographically limited.

[SeasonTicketFan]

I would not hire Kelsey. I have heard from a source that he backed out of another position beside UMAss. Not a good track record.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Atlantic 10]

What is with this AG stuff, he got fired at Alabama. He didn't get anything done there, I want a winner

[Don]

Not impressed with AG's tenure at Bama. Recruiting at a Power 5 school, he couldn't beat the Flyers in two tries. Seems introverted to me. If so, it's a serious recruiting shortcoming. I favor a younger lion with both the personality to recruit and the intellect to do a great job with the XOs.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

My votes-

1. Kuwik or Ostrom
2. AG
3. Not sure I have anyone else I like from names being thrown around. Can we afford Shocka or Dnutz?

[oldfan]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows It's AG for me. I like the idea of keeping all of Archie's assistants in place. AG would definitely get the Don Donoher seal of approval. Posted via Mobile Device

Keeping all of Archie's assistants is a pipe dream regardless of who is made the head coach. They might keep one if he is promoted to head coach but the other two would be gone and two and probably all three would be gone if not made head coach.

While Archie would not get in the way if any was promoted to head coach, it is likely he would take two with him to Indiana. Ostrom looked to be the lead recruiter on many of the over-recruited players who have committed to Dayton over the last six years as opposed to the three star players. So I would expect him to follow Archie to Indiana and work his magic there.

Note when I say over-recruited players I do not mean they are better than the other players or turned out better than the other players but rather players who based on their high school reputations were presumed power five conference recruits.

But I would hesitate to offer Ostrom the HC job. I have no idea about his coaching skills only that he has great recruiting skills.

	Don Donoher DON DONOHER Legendary Flyer men's basketball coach who guided Dayton to 435 victories in 25 seasons (1964-1989) including the 1967 NCAA Runner-Up. Took over the program after the passing of Tom Blackburn and earned many NCAA and NIT bids over his career, including five Sweet-16s, one Elite Eight appearance, and the 1968 NIT Championship. Groomed All-Americans Don May and Jim Paxson, along with all-time leading scorer Roosevelt Chapman. Coached UD as they joined conference affiliation for the first time (Midwest Collegiate). A graduate of UD, Donoher played for Blackburn and credits much of his coaching success to his mentor's teachings: defense, ball protection, patience, and unselfishness.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan My votes- 3. Not sure I have anyone else I like from names being thrown around. Can we afford Shocka or Dnutz?

You forgot someone...

[jack72]

Many wanted Grant last time, and instead we got Archie, so in the search committee I trust.

[hawkoooo]

Everybody seems worried about recruits (as am I), but what about transfers?

I wouldn't be remotely surprised if any of the underclassman wanted to jump ship now that true team is no more. As it is we don't have a terrible lineup and I hope it isn't blown up like the recruiting class might be.

Side note myself and another poster live right down the road from Jordan Davis, is it a rules violation to call on him?

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by rollo You forgot someone...

Summer AAU recruting season conflicts with my boating season, so I have decided if offered the job I will have to decline.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Everybody seems worried about recruits (as am I), but what about transfers? I wouldn't be remotely surprised if any of the underclassman wanted to jump ship now that true team is no more. As it is we don't have a terrible lineup and I hope it isn't blown up like the recruiting class might be. Side note myself and another poster live right down the road from Jordan Davis, is it a rules violation to call on him?

DD is a senior to be, so he is staying. Realistically there is only one of those Frosh and Soph that would matter much. I'll trade the whole bunch for all the recruits showing up.

[UD B8BEE]

If looking at Alumni, I would consider Damon Goodwin

[ruechalgrin]

I really like Tom Crean and Anthony Grant.

But agree with Jack72, In Neil Sullivan and Eric Spina I trust.

[xavierbasketball]

Don't worry not a Xavier troll. I wanted to hear what you had to say about Archie. Been there done that. All I would say is that UD is a great program with a fantastic fan base. I really hope they don't settle on Pat Kelsey. Besides the fact that I hate any coach that would do this to a school that committed to them but UD basketball is well beyond a Pat Kelsey type coach. I think Crean is a good pick. Don't know all the reasons why cut him but when you consider he really started from scratch and had 3 Sweet 16s once he got them competitive, many schools would take that. Also, there are a lot of great young coaches. Good luck in your selection. Still love the A-10

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Smitty10]

Maybe there was a reason Johnny Davis came back to Dayton for the first time in 40 years?

I realize he's 61 but he could still give us a good 5-8 years no?

[ud2]

I will pass on Grant...nothing against him, but I was not impressed with his coaching.

I know nothing about Kelsey, but he has done pretty well at Winthrop though it seems.

[SeasonTicketFan]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Maybe there was a reason Johnny Davis came back to Dayton for the first time in 40 years? I realize he's 61 but he could still give us a good 5-8 years no?

I talked to Johnny when he was here in Dayton. He has lived on the road in the NBA life too long. He is enjoying the good life in Asheville.

[FlyerLiar]

Tommy Amaker?

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan I talked to Johnny when he was here in Dayton. He has lived on the road in the NBA life too long. He is enjoying the good life in Asheville.

Yeah, figured it was a pipe dream. But had to throw it out there.

[maddog07]

Originally Posted by Tony T 71 If we don't we will lose the entire class plus Kostas

He's been taking free classes, eating free food and getting all the benefits of a scholarship athlete. Can he now walk without sitting out another year?

[TXFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by ud2 I will pass on Grant...nothing against him, but I was not impressed with his coaching. I know nothing about Kelsey, but he has done pretty well at Winthrop though it seems.

Sorry, but anyone who commits to a school and then backs out doesn't get my vote of confidence. Of course, it could be that UMass reneged on something, but you'd think you wouldn't wait until 15 minutes before your press conference to change your mind.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by NCkevi Fife in six years at IPFW went 82–97 - the 2 coaches to follow him, in 5 years, have a combined 92-72 record I see nothing to convince me he can be a good coach at UD

IPFW might have been transitioning to d1 at the time, they might not have been eligible for the NCAAT...tough task.

[Donniex3Era]

Originally Posted by Don Not impressed with AG's tenure at Bama. Recruiting at a Power 5 school, he couldn't beat the Flyers in two tries. Seems introverted to me. If so, it's a serious recruiting shortcoming. I favor a younger lion with both the personality to recruit and the intellect to do a great job with the XOs.

well, alabama is NOT a basketball school. that was a mistake going there. he does have 2 NCAA championship rings and is back with Donavan at Okla city...a good resume IMHO

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by rollo You forgot someone...

Rollo, come on man. You would take that kind of a pay cut. Stop teasing us.

[DaytonDandy]

Ray Harper would be a homerun hire. I am hearing Akron coach but I think we need to throw 1 million at Harper
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[ud2]

I think Allen Griffin is our next hc...just a guess. President Spina may know him, as both were at Syracuse.

[backtolife]

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe I say NO to MSU assistants!

I would agree here as we have been there. They play the Izzo style which grated on this fan base. Not to mention I wouldn't be surprised if the feeling is mutual. Let's not forget that this fan base ran BG out of town. If the Izzo tree is anything, it is extremely loyal. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Izzo wouldn't warn Fife to stay away from UD (maybe Crean but he is really a Jud Heathcoat guy).

[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by Don Not impressed with AG's tenure at Bama. Recruiting at a Power 5 school, he couldn't beat the Flyers in two tries. Seems introverted to me. If so, it's a serious recruiting shortcoming. I favor a younger lion with both the personality to recruit and the intellect to do a great job with the XOs.

I do have concerns about Grant as a recruiter - he had three 20 win seasons at VCU (so never had a season with all of his recruits) and three 20 win seasons at Alabama (years 2-4). His 5th and 6th years at Alabama, with all of his recruits, he went 32-33 - not a lot to go on but enough to make me pause.

[TXFlyerFan]

I assume, could be wrong, that the assistants do most of the heavy lifting for recruiting and the HC just closes the deal with the great sales pitch. Not to say he doesn't stay in touch or make visits, but you've got to have top notch assistants that can recruit. Assume that AG could make the pitch, given his tenure in the NBA and other parts of background, but no idea what assistants he would have to sign on. So much of recruiting is relationships with HS and AAU coaches, so any assistants have to be strong/experienced in that area.

Overall, I have no idea who UD would/is considering and my opinion isn't worth anything to them. Just do a great job and bring in someone who can continue what AM started.

[UACFlyer]

Doesn't an asst usually lead the recruiting effort...with the HC just involved at the "closing"?

Otherwise, why would retaining all the assistants preserve the incoming class?

Since these gus want to play in the NBA Grant's "connections" could be valuable.

One thing for sure: Neil has had this figured out for a long time; AM's departure comes as no surprise. Neil has a #1 guy, a #2, a #3, etc. We will know by next time this week at the latest.

It's a d@mn shame UD is not a "destination job"....probably never will be.

[SeasonTicketFan]

The only way it becomes destinationjob if the program can compete for Final Fours and National Championships on a regular basis. If it was, Archie would not have left.

[NovaFlyer]

Baker Dunleavy, assistant at Villanova, would be worth considering.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by NovaFlyer Baker Dunleavy, assistant at Villanova, would be worth considering.

That is a name I had not seen mentioned anywhere else. I like it.

[UDBrian]

Originally Posted by UD62 Don't know if AG would be in the hunt or not. It would be nice to get a coach that has a real possibility of being a UD lifer though. Not advocating for AG, just see the possibility of of a real long term committment as a plus.

LOL I won't fall for that again.

[lhsgolf19]

Jeff DiVeronica‏ @RocDevo 5h5 hours ago

Texted w/@_ClutchCarter. Says he'll know more Sunday abt his commitment to @DaytonMBB. News today: Coach Archie Miler leaving 4 @IndianaMBB

Could that mean we might know who the replacement will be tomorrow?

[JimBo]

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan The only way it becomes destinationjob if the program can compete for Final Fours and National Championships on a regular basis. If it was, Archie would not have left.

When was the last time Indiana fit this description?

You're putting a very small group of schools into this category if this is the definition. I just don't see it as so. Dayton can be a destination position for a head coach, if it already isn't.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Jeff DiVeronica‏ @RocDevo 5h5 hours ago Texted w/@_ClutchCarter. Says he'll know more Sunday abt his commitment to @DaytonMBB. News today: Coach Archie Miler leaving 4 @IndianaMBB Could that mean we might know who the replacement will be tomorrow?

It could be interpreted that way, but you never know with high school kids. If they do announce something that quick it obviously points to a current assistant being promoted which I'm fine with. It has worked at Butler and Xavier so why don't we try it too.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Jeff DiVeronica‏ @RocDevo 5h5 hours ago Texted w/@_ClutchCarter. Says he'll know more Sunday abt his commitment to @DaytonMBB. News today: Coach Archie Miler leaving 4 @IndianaMBB Could that mean we might know who the replacement will be tomorrow?

It probably means he is going to sleep on it.

[cj]

How about about Xavier's top assistant? Their next in lines have done well.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by cj How about about Xavier's top assistant? Their next in lines have done well.

If he brings their top recruits with him, then it's an intriguing possibility. Otherwise, no thanks.
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[TA111]

Originally Posted by jack72 It probably means he is going to sleep on it.

Sullivan stated he has talked to all the recruits so I suspect we know more tomorrow.

[MikeFlyer]

Originally Posted by Class of 73 Alum Anybody for JTIII?

Not if he brings that boring offense

[C-time]

Originally Posted by cj How about about Xavier's top assistant? Their next in lines have done well.

Travis Steele's wife would be okay with me!



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[MikeFlyer]

How bout johnny davis