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Old 04-16-2012, 08:44 PM
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Sibert Transfer Official

Headed to Dayton?

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If Arch wants him, I'm good with it. Only our coach knows what's all in his pipeline.

Sibert sits a year and has two years left?
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Question I have is what to make of Sibert sending out all sorts of tweets making fun of the transfer rumors, obviously knowing they were true. Not trying to read too much into them, but I just don't want his focus to become a project. Should be a really good three-point shooter if UD lands him.
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Sibert sits a year and has two years left?
That is correct.
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Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic21 View Post
Question I have is what to make of Sibert sending out all sorts of tweets making fun of the transfer rumors, obviously knowing they were true. Not trying to read too much into them, but I just don't want his focus to become a project. Should be a really good three-point shooter if UD lands him.
I think everyone was trying to be careful not to break any NCAA rules regard recruiting and tampering - at least publicly.
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JD Weatherspoon is tranferring out of OSU also...

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/spo...041612aaa.html

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Kids do stupid things in pressure situations, probably wanted to make sure he was going to get a release before going nuts. Only jackball coaches hold press conferences to say they are not a candidate for another job only to accept the job hours later. You know, like Matta.
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Spoon's side of the story regarding his pre-transfer meeting with Matta is interesting.

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/b...-released.html
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Weren't UD and X both on Witherspoon's radar before OSU?
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Weren't UD and X both on Witherspoon's radar before OSU?
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I am indifferent about Sibert. I am sure there is a plan.
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OSU was 47-2 in games in which Sibert played.

OSU went 29-1 in games in which Sibert scored.

So basically UD could land the most valuable player from a final four team. Stats are awesome!
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Spoon's side of the story regarding his pre-transfer meeting with Matta is interesting.

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/b...-released.html
Very harsh comment by Matta if true, I'd be more inclined to believe Weatherspoon's side of the story if true. I think almost all high level players care about winning. That's part of how you get to be a high level player, you have the drive to win.
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Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
Spoon's side of the story regarding his pre-transfer meeting with Matta is interesting.

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/b...-released.html
So Matta kicked him off the team because he wasn't good enough? I'm not sure you can read in any other way.

Someone mentioned the word "commitment" and how it doesn't mean anything these days. Well, it's not just the kids. It's at the top of the food chain as well. I've never liked Matta and this only reinforces my view. Can you win without being a complete a@@hole?
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Matta has always been a jerk.
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Matta is an ass. Back to Sibert though, if he transfers to UD and dominates, will the kids fill up their sibby cups with beer to celebrate?
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I've always liked Matta, and I think he's a great coach. Obviously, if Spoon's story is accurate, then the coach and player disagree about the player's level of commitment.
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I'll be honest I'm not crazy picking up a guard who is going to sit on the bench for a year. Our guard situation next year will be as bad as last year and remember if KD goes down, we are in a real world of hurt.

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Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic21 View Post
Question I have is what to make of Sibert sending out all sorts of tweets making fun of the transfer rumors, obviously knowing they were true. Not trying to read too much into them, but I just don't want his focus to become a project. Should be a really good three-point shooter if UD lands him.
I wouldn't worry about it. "All sorts" = 2 tweets a week apart. Here are the tweets in question:

"Everyone stop with the transfer talk...please..I'm just focused on getting better..nothing else."

"Haha this is funny. But everyone I'm still at osu and I'm still getting better..don't believe everything you read...smh"

The second was when it was announced that Sibert to Dayton was a done-deal. According to Devon Scott, no one knows where Sibert is going except possibly Sibert himself (if even that). It may be that he was "encouraged" to transfer and when he tweeted, he didn't realize he'd be transferring. The rumors may have started with people closer to Matta than to Sibert. No way to know.
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Very harsh comment by Matta if true, I'd be more inclined to believe Weatherspoon's side of the story if true. I think almost all high level players care about winning. That's part of how you get to be a high level player, you have the drive to win.
Northland's record was 95-4 when Weatherspoon was there. He obviously didn't care about winning or they wouldn't have lost those 4 games.

I'm in the same camp as those who dislike Matta.
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Hearing JD Weatherspoon is leaving Ohio State...don't be surprised if Bowling Green and Toledo aren't already in the mix.

http://twitter.com/#!/highmajorscoop...61331208286208

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with Vee Sanford already here IMO Sibert isn't a great fit. I'd much rather bring in a freshman and have them for 4 years. The Flyers need to bring in a SG and PG to play some minutes next year.
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They can do all 3. I don't think that's very likely though. I don't have much hope for a pure point. A combo who can play some point is more likely. If they get a pure point as a I think they are likely to be recruited over and transfer out in a couple years. Just don't see anyone out there good enough who UD can sign and who can qualify.
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We will dislike Matta a whole lot more if he now goes after Ryan Taylor.
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We will dislike Matta a whole lot more if he now goes after Ryan Taylor.
if Taylor is dumb enough to go there I say have at it. Sibert, Offutt, Weatherspoon should be cautionary tales to any player who is not a 5 star recruit because you may play but the odds are even better that your rear end will be firmly nailed to the bench.
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They can do all 3. I don't think that's very likely though. I don't have much hope for a pure point.
Bobo Drummond became available yesterday after getting his release from LOI with SIU. Kid is a pure PG and the last one we got from SIU has turned out rather well.
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with Vee Sanford already here IMO Sibert isn't a great fit. I'd much rather bring in a freshman and have them for 4 years. The Flyers need to bring in a SG and PG to play some minutes next year.
Reality is that the late signing period has already began and we have 3 open scholarships. The PG and SG pool for the 2012 class has already been picked over, so may have to reach at this point. Could be just as a likely that the 4-year guard you would be hoping for ends up being a 1-2 year player who transfers out because he wasn't good enough in the first place. I really just don't see Archie turning down Sibert if he wants to come here with 3 open scholarships.
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Does anyone know when Taylor was making his visit?
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The PG and SG pool for the 2012 class has already been picked over, so may have to reach at this point.
players released from the LOIs could make that not the case. Players such as Moore, Levert, Drummond, etc have become available.

Must be hectic for the staff trying to formulate a plan involving players they have been recruiting, transfers, players released from LOI and stirring qualifiers vs potential non-qualifiers into the mix.
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players released from the LOIs could make that not the case. Players such as Moore, Levert, Drummond, etc have become available.

Must be hectic for the staff trying to formulate a plan involving players they have been recruiting, transfers, players released from LOI and stirring qualifiers vs potential non-qualifiers into the mix.
Obviously anyone could surprise us and be better than expected, but are there any point guards out there that you would expect to be a three-year starter here after Dillard graduates?
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Does anyone know when Taylor was making his visit?
he's made an unofficial visit i believe, pretty sure it was said he was taking ACT this weekend, so he'll have to wait for that score to come in and make sure its enough to qualify for an official visit. assuming it will be a couple weeks, that is as long as he gets the qualifying score
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he's made an unofficial visit i believe, pretty sure it was said he was taking ACT this weekend, so he'll have to wait for that score to come in and make sure its enough to qualify for an official visit. assuming it will be a couple weeks, that is as long as he gets the qualifying score
I am pretty sure he can take offical visits now. I believe there have been articles posted in this thread that has says that he has already taken offical visits to Providence and Boston College. I think the same article says that UD will be his last official visit.
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You don't need to have a qualifying score to take an official visit. Just need to have taken the ACT or SAT.
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Reality is that the late signing period has already began and we have 3 open scholarships. The PG and SG pool for the 2012 class has already been picked over, so may have to reach at this point. Could be just as a likely that the 4-year guard you would be hoping for ends up being a 1-2 year player who transfers out because he wasn't good enough in the first place. I really just don't see Archie turning down Sibert if he wants to come here with 3 open scholarships.
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You don't need to have a qualifying score to take an official visit. Just need to have taken the ACT or SAT.

ahh thanks for the clarification. well thats good news, so hopefully that gets setup soon. once archie gets him on campus i'm confident he will be able to seal the deal.
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ahh thanks for the clarification. well thats good news, so hopefully that gets setup soon. once archie gets him on campus i'm confident he will be able to seal the deal.

I'm pretty sure you do need a qualifying score to take an official visit.
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http://www.muredhawks.com/sports/m-b...n_brian00.html
He killed us last year. Hit 4/8 threes and had 14 points, but I can't believe we would want a guard (or another guard) who would have to sit out a year.
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He killed us last year. Hit 4/8 threes and had 14 points, but I can't believe we would want a guard (or another guard) who would have to sit out a year.
Depends on who else is on the radar. If we get a combo guard to be the backup for Dillard/Sanford, it would make sense to have a strong PG ready to step in and start the following year. I'd think a PG for next year is plan A, but he could fit into a plan B. I doubt it works out, though, because we'd need to have the other scholarships filled first.

Plus, having too many point guards isn't really a problem most years.
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not bad numbers by Sullivan , esp for a freshman.
only disturbing one is 1 assist a game. So he's not a pass first guy.

good shooting stats, esp 3 Pointers.

10 points a game for a freshman, pretty decent. Has two brothers that play D1 ball also, that is if both Denison and Depauw are D1. (likely denison is D2).

He stands 5 11" so that's not such a great positive.
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Sullivan would be a very useful piece in my opinion. If we can't get our pg of the future in uniform this year and I would be surprised if we can, then I really like the idea of having an experienced pg on the roster for the year after, when KD is gone. With Sullivan, UD could still recruit a stud pg for 2013 and if a freshman wins the job, so be it. There are still going to be minutes for a guy who can handle the ball and shoot 3s at a 45% clip. So I have no problem investing 3 years in this guy as long as one of our 3 available schollies goes to a guard who can contribute this year. And honestly, if it came down to Sibert or Sullivan for one of the schollies, I wouldn't really have a problem going with the guy who has proven he can knock down shots with three years of eligibility over the highly touted guy who hasn't proven himself, has played very little, and only has 2 years of eligibility.

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Sullivan last season: 38 assists 48 turnovers.
He is not a point guard. Pass on him.
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Sullivan last season: 38 assists 48 turnovers.
He is not a point guard. Pass on him.
I look at his numbers and think of Brad Redford if he had chosen Miami. Also similar experience level as Josh Parker had at Drake. I think Arch can do better than a Redford or a Parker-type player.
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I look at his numbers and think of Brad Redford if he had chosen Miami. Also similar experience level as Josh Parker had at Drake. I think Arch can do better than a Redford or a Parker-type player.
We're waiting.....
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I look at his numbers and think of Brad Redford if he had chosen Miami. Also similar experience level as Josh Parker had at Drake. I think Arch can do better than a Redford or a Parker-type player.
I actually thought about the same thing but I'm not sure Sullivan is as much of a liability on defense as Redford proved to be. But I think it's fair to say that Sullivan would be a specialist - a lights out shooter that stretches defenses in limited minutes. So that does sound like Redford.

If we're going to be a big time program, we shouldn't be giving minutes to specialists. We need guys who do multiple things well. So I'm with you that Arch needs to do better.

But you can't forget what type of player Archie was in his playing days - he looked a lot like Sullivan, and was absolutely an overachiever. My guess is Archie sees the value in a tough, pure shooter - even one who is a specialist. I think you can afford one of these guys as long as you don't have an entire bench full of them.

All this said, I think Sullivan is better than Redford, and I would like an experienced PG on the roster even in a backup role, so I think he could be worth it depending how the recruiting dominoes fall.
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One ingredient we haven't read about Sullivan is his court savvy and grit. That was Archie's strong suit. But without those attributes, Sully is a specialist who is short, but at least he doesn't weigh much. Parker turned into a tank of a body to his credit.

Redford is a wave of brilliance lost in a sea of mediocrity.

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I actually thought about the same thing but I'm not sure Sullivan is as much of a liability on defense as Redford proved to be. But I think it's fair to say that Sullivan would be a specialist - a lights out shooter that stretches defenses in limited minutes. So that does sound like Redford.

If we're going to be a big time program, we shouldn't be giving minutes to specialists. We need guys who do multiple things well. So I'm with you that Arch needs to do better.

But you can't forget what type of player Archie was in his playing days - he looked a lot like Sullivan, and was absolutely an overachiever. My guess is Archie sees the value in a tough, pure shooter - even one who is a specialist. I think you can afford one of these guys as long as you don't have an entire bench full of them.

All this said, I think Sullivan is better than Redford, and I would like an experienced PG on the roster even in a backup role, so I think he could be worth it depending how the recruiting dominoes fall.
I have no problem with a couple specialists - especially ones that can shoot - if the rest of your team is well balanced. Redford - before his injury - was a significant contributor. The Alaskan Assasin did just fine for Duke.

Next year isn't my biggest concern for guards. Its the two years after that. After next year, Vee will be our only experienced guard on the roster.
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not bad numbers by Sullivan , esp for a freshman.
only disturbing one is 1 assist a game. So he's not a pass first guy.

good shooting stats, esp 3 Pointers.

10 points a game for a freshman, pretty decent. Has two brothers that play D1 ball also, that is if both Denison and Depauw are D1. (likely denison is D2).

He stands 5 11" so that's not such a great positive.
denison and depauw are both diii. they play in the ncac. denison has played wsu a couple of times recently in basketball though. woody hayes is a denison graduate, which is a cool side note.
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Denison is a pretty cool campus on the east side of columbus. Tough school academically as well.

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I have no problem with a couple specialists - especially ones that can shoot - if the rest of your team is well balanced. Redford - before his injury - was a significant contributor. The Alaskan Assasin did just fine for Duke.

Next year isn't my biggest concern for guards. Its the two years after that. After next year, Vee will be our only experienced guard on the roster.
That's a big IF. IF I had Holloway and Lyons, Redford works.

Fabrizius was a specialist. I think that was a luxury we couldn't afford.
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Fabrizius was a specialist. I think that was a luxury we couldn't afford.
I agree. I had hoped Fab would develop into an all around player like Nick Fazekas who starred at the University of Nevada a few years back. But Fab got to school with the ability to do one thing well (shoot), and he finished up being able to do one thing well (shoot). Luke was one of my favorites, but looking at it realistically, I think we'd have been better off with a more versatile player.
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Denison is a pretty cool campus on the east side of columbus. Tough school academically as well.

Funny fact, the name of one of the all female dorm: Beaver Hall
founder of north face, ceo of disney and steve carell all went to denison. of course, so did james frey...he wrote the autobiography that oprah raved about, which turned out to be filled with lies.
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Denison is a pretty cool campus on the east side of columbus. Tough school academically as well.

Funny fact, the name of one of the all female dorm: Beaver Hall
What is the name of the men's dorm?
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founder of north face, ceo of disney and steve carell all went to denison. of course, so did james frey...he wrote the autobiography that oprah raved about, which turned out to be filled with lies.
Jenifer Garner/Aflack as well. I don't think Eisner is still the CEO of disney anymore, fwiw.
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founder of north face, ceo of disney and steve carell all went to denison. of course, so did james frey...he wrote the autobiography that oprah raved about, which turned out to be filled with lies.
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Blog from Harris today: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs...cxtype=feedbot

Nothing huge, but Dayton is "high on his list."
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Seibert's visit to UD

Nothing much new in the Harris article below. Seibert has UD as a a top option along with other schools and likely won't make a decision for a another few weeks.

Seibert enjoys visit with UD:

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GoodmanCBS Ohio State transfer Jordan Sibert leaning towards Dayton, sources told CBSSports. Ex-Teammate J.D. Weatherspoon looking at Toledo, Temple

Goodman from CBS just tweeted this.
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Dayton has landed Ohio State transfer Jordan Sibert, source told CBSSports.
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Wasn't "a source" the guy who (incorrectly) reported this same thing a few weeks ago? Glad to hear it, but this doesn't sound any more official than the last report that he was coming here. I believe the report - but I also believed it last time.
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Wasn't "a source" the guy who (incorrectly) reported this same thing a few weeks ago? Glad to hear it, but this doesn't sound any more official than the last report that he was coming here. I believe the report - but I also believed it last time.
From one of the links posted by Dallas (makes it sound pretty official)

“It feels good to be able to be someplace where everyone is excited for you,” Sibert said. “Everyone was excited for me at Ohio State. But when your coaches are excited for you, and you feel the love, feel the need for you, it makes you want to do better, makes you want to build upon it. Instead of being like, I’m out here, I’m just another number, it feels better that, hey, these people in me. The Flyer Nation believes in me. It’s a good feeling.”
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So we have a pure point, Khari Price, for the coming season, and a combo for 13/14. Both with reasonable pedigree. Some claimed that wouldn't happen.

Sibert also had Missouri high on his list. So do we get credit for acing out a BCS program?
Some said that would never happen either.
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So we have a pure point, Khari Price, for the coming season, and a combo for 13/14. Both with reasonable pedigree. Some claimed that wouldn't happen.

Sibert also had Missouri high on his list. So do we get credit for acing out a BCS program?
Some said that would never happen either.
However you want to spin it. You could say we beat out BCS programs for both and landed a one-time national top 50 recruit in Sibert. Or you might say that we traded our Ralph Hill for Ohio State's Ralph Hill so that he could play alongside Georgetown's Ralph Hill.

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Sibert also had Missouri high on his list. So do we get credit for acing out a BCS program?
Some said that would never happen either.
Beating out BCS schools in recruiting happens all the time. What's less frequent is beating out the higher prestige programs.

UM, MSU, OSU, Duke, UK, Kansas, UNC, UCLA, UConn, Texas, maybe a few others.

Missouri did great this year (better than many of the names I listed above), but their name doesn't carry the same weight as the schools that constantly seem to be in the hunt for the Final 4.
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However you want to spin it. You could say we beat out BCS programs for both and landed a one-time national top 50 recruit in Sibert. Or you might say that we traded our Ralph Hill for Ohio State's Ralph Hill so that he could play alongside Georgetown's Ralph Hill.
Let's hope all three Ralph Hills produce at a high level.
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Beating out BCS schools in recruiting happens all the time. What's less frequent is beating out the higher prestige programs.

UM, MSU, OSU, Duke, UK, Kansas, UNC, UCLA, UConn, Texas, maybe a few others.

Missouri did great this year (better than many of the names I listed above), but their name doesn't carry the same weight as the schools that constantly seem to be in the hunt for the Final 4.
Glad you didn't put Michigan on that list. Still don't quite understand the infatuation with that program looking at the last decade. Maybe coach Francis could enlighten us.
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Glad you didn't put Michigan on that list. Still don't quite understand the infatuation with that program looking at the last decade. Maybe coach Francis could enlighten us.
As a Michigan Resident & Diehard Michigan Fan, who is also an alum of UD, since Beilein has gotten there they have become big time... With trey burke returning and having a top 10 recruiting class, they are projected to be preseason 10 next year.

I understand why he would wanna go there... don't get me wrong I would definitely prefer him to go to UD but that doesn't look like its happening lol

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Glad you didn't put Michigan on that list. Still don't quite understand the infatuation with that program looking at the last decade. Maybe coach Francis could enlighten us.
I did have Michigan on that list. I think that in a recruiting battle, Michigan has a leg up even against most other BCS schools.
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My bad, I thought that was Minnesota. In basketball I don't think they rate the attraction of the others. If they do, why have they been so lousy for so long? As an example, did LeVert not have Iowa also on his original list? For basketball, I put Michigan appeal right with Iowa.

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My bad, I thought that was Minnesota. In basketball I don't think they rate the attraction of the others. If they do, why have they been so lousy for so long? As an example, did LeVert not have Iowa also on his original list? For basketball, I put Michigan appeal right with Iowa.

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Good job beating out UC and Xavier for Sibert per one of the DDN articles. After 2012-2013, X only has 1 sg, Myles Davis, on their roster, so they would seem to have also been a good opportunity for him. Maybe they have somebody else lined up at sg, I have to think they are in the market for another sg, either a transfer or a freshman.

I don't follow UC closely enough to know their situation at sg.

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Good job beating out UC and Xavier for Sibert per one of the DDN articles. After 2012-2013, X only has 1 sg, Myles Davis, on their roster, so they would seem to have also been a good opportunity for him. Maybe they have somebody else lined up at sg, I have to think they are in the market for another sg, either a transfer or a freshman.

I don't follow UC closely enough to know their situation at sg.
They already have a 5 star JuCo SG, Chris Thomas, committed to them for 2013... But rumors are swirling that he won't sign with them... His recruiter left for Manhattan

I was talking about X
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Wow, I completely forgot about him. My bad.

But, I agree, it is uncertain if Thomas ends up at X.
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It is nice to see a final list of UD, X and Cincinnati with us coming out on the gaining end. Not sure the last time that happened. Nicely done, Archie.

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Another transfer, Miami's starting PG, is being mentioned as a Dayton target:

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Former Miami-OH freshman; Brian Sullivan is now hearing from Butler, Davidson, Dayton, Richmond and UVA.

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Sullivan has transferred to Davidson.

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