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Yes and Thomas is coming Sat for his official visit by his twitter page
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Just to be clear, all 3 are fully qualified? Thanks.
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ACT scores from February posted this week. Obviously has a qualifying score now.
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And to either one of you. I have a dumb question, but I'll ask it anyway. Is there a publicly available posted list of players that have qualfied somewhere? Like on an NCAA clearinghouse website or something? I assume none of this information is publicly available due to privacy consideratons. Thanks.
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Don't think he is going to bring a juco in over top of Scott and Robinson. Plus he has Benson back. He likely holds one back and gets a wing. A juco wing who can put the ball on the floor and shoot the three would help a lot. Presuming that skill set from High School has already signed or out of UDs league.
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We could use a JUCO big man. Not sure if Archie is looking at that option.
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Actually, for next year, we really need more depth at the 2. Once JB & MK graduate, I couldn't agree more about a JUCO 4/5. But for next year, with only Dillard, Sanford, & Thomas at 6'5" & under, size isn't the issue - "handles" are. Otherwise, our backup Big Guard next year is the same guy who has recently been our starting Power Forward - D-MO. And if you think he's miscast as a 4, wait'll you see him as a 2 (unless he goes to the Curly Neal School of Ballhandling this summer).
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My guess is that if Thomas does qualify - and it is promising he is taking an official visit - that Archie will either slide Dillard to the 2 with Thomas at point or bring in Thomas at the 2. DMO playing there would be foul trouble or injury. Derenbecker might play there some too over DMO. But the position definitely las ks depth. Biggest risk upfront is Benson not really being right - like Ratterman. But he has had more than 3 months more recovery time.
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My guess is that if Thomas does qualify - and it is promising he is taking an official visit - that Archie will either slide Dillard to the 2 with Thomas at point or bring in Thomas at the 2. DMO playing there would be foul trouble or injury. Derenbecker might play there some too over DMO. But the position definitely las ks depth. Biggest risk upfront is Benson not really being right - like Ratterman. But he has had more than 3 months more recovery time.
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Do you not like Sanford at the 2? What's your starting lineup? I guess mine would be Dillard/Sanford/Derenbecker/Benson/Kavanaugh.
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My guess is that if Thomas does qualify - and it is promising he is taking an official visit
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It's not only promising, it's imperative -- a recruit cannot take an "official" visit unless he is qualified.
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Ud2 we were talking backup minutes at the 2. Based on current roster my presumption is Sanford is starting at the 2. Dillard slides over when Sangotd rests or Thomas runs point or vice versa. Those 3 and maybe Derenbecker split the 80 minutes.
Swampy he obviously has the test score or he can't take an official. But last I heard core grades were a concern too. He might get the ACT and still not get through the Clearing House. I think Scott was in same position at beginning of year. Xavier has had many guys get the test score and take their official visit and end up a partial qualifier. Questions on core grades AND the ACT is why Scott and UC parted ways and my understanding is it is why Thomas decommitted at St Johns. So I still say promising because they both have cleared the test score hurdle. No idea if they have improved their core course standing.
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My guess is that if Thomas does qualify - and it is promising he is taking an official visit - that Archie will either slide Dillard to the 2 with Thomas at point or bring in Thomas at the 2. DMO playing there would be foul trouble or injury. Derenbecker might play there some too over DMO. But the position definitely las ks depth. Biggest risk upfront is Benson not really being right - like Ratterman. But he has had more than 3 months more recovery time.
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Ud2 we were talking backup minutes at the 2. Based on current roster my presumption is Sanford is starting at the 2. Dillard slides over when Sangotd rests or Thomas runs point or vice versa. Those 3 and maybe Derenbecker split the 80 minutes.
Swampy he obviously has the test score or he can't take an official. But last I heard core grades were a concern too. He might get the ACT and still not get through the Clearing House. I think Scott was in same position at beginning of year. Xavier has had many guys get the test score and take their official visit and end up a partial qualifier. Questions on core grades AND the ACT is why Scott and UC parted ways and my understanding is it is why Thomas decommitted at St Johns. So I still say promising because they both have cleared the test score hurdle. No idea if they have improved their core course standing.
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Do you not like Sanford at the 2? What's your starting lineup? I guess mine would be Dillard/Sanford/Derenbecker/Benson/Kavanaugh.
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I was surprised at Doug, then he qualified talking about backup minutes.
Will be interesting to see how many minutes Thomas does get.
Above in UD 2's post is my starting lineup for sure. Love it.
With CJ gone, we will need to be concerned with who pulls his 8 boards down. I think Scott and Robinson together will need to play 16-18 minutes a game, and we'll see how different theyare and compare to
Kavs and CJ.
Obviously they are more athletic than Kavs.
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And we definitely need 2 guard/wing signee - either recruit or Juco signing.
if we find a 5 or big man fine... but 2 position needs backing up even though Derenbecker and Oliver can provide minutes there. They likely are not ideally suited for that position. I'd rather see Oliver on wing, working ball down low and running baseline. He's clever that Oliver.
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I have a feeling that Scott and Robinson are going to get a good deal of time next year. There are three division I athletes on that team and they are both averaging close to 18-10. If theyu had been by themselves they would have been closer to 25-15. In the first two games of the tournament, Northland has outscored the competition 190-80 with Scott getting 41 and Robinson 37. They played a ton of guys to keep the games from getting even more embarrassing.
Do not be surprised if these guys are close to 15 minutes a game next year. Unless Gav learns how to stay on the court and not give up a foul every 2 minutes, he will be third in the pecking order. We are going to be stronger at 4 and 5 than we have been in years.
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I'd give our big guys this year a B grade. Had some nice moments when Kavs had double doubles, and Gavs provided some spark a month ago.
With Benson B+ or better, depending on how much he may have helped us win 2 or 3 more key games.
This would be nice to see , four potential big men at UD. All getting quality minutes. That would be something!!
( i may switch final grade to B- as we have slipped the past 3 games. so let's see how the next 2-3 games go)
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Desmond Ridenour from Cleveland Benedictine. (2012)
Maverick Morgan was there too. Seems like a good sign.
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Otherwise, our backup Big Guard next year is the same guy who has recently been our starting Power Forward - D-MO. And if you think he's miscast as a 4, wait'll you see him as a 2 (unless he goes to the Curly Neal School of Ballhandling this summer).
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I am impressed with Olivers' handle. I feel good about him bringing the ball down the floor. The only place he might hurt us at the 2 is with his three point shooting and free throw shooting weaknesses, IMO.
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Oliver started off slowly with his free throw shooting but since then he is lights out. He is up to .735 and has hit his last 15. Not a worry.
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I am impressed with Olivers' handle. I feel good about him bringing the ball down the floor. The only place he might hurt us at the 2 is with his three point shooting and free throw shooting weaknesses, IMO.
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I got a feeling you are going to see a very much improved 3-point shooter in DMO next year. AM consistently says good things about his work ethic and let's face it; 3-point shooting efficiency is all about endless practice in the off season. DMO has (to me at least) very good shooting technique, just needs a little more refining and I think he surprises LOTS of people next year. I really like his development. Remember, like many other 2011-12 Flyers, he was non-factor last year getting in rarely. He now pulls down nearly more rebounds per minute than any other Flyer. He needs to bulk up a little and shoot 500 3's a day this summer...
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I got a feeling you are going to see a very much improved 3-point shooter in DMO next year. AM consistently says good things about his work ethic and let's face it; 3-point shooting efficiency is all about endless practice in the off season. DMO has (to me at least) very good shooting technique, just needs a little more refining and I think he surprises LOTS of people next year. I really like his development. Remember, like many other 2011-12 Flyers, he was non-factor last year getting in rarely. He now pulls down nearly more rebounds per minute than any other Flyer. He needs to bulk up a little and shoot 500 3's a day this summer...
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Gotta think the illness he had back in the summer slowed him down the first 10-15 games as that was really his time to both get in shape and keep the weight on. He has nice form from the 3 shot and just knocking down a few will could easily make him a double digit scorer next year with his ability and quickness with the bounce to get to the rim and into the lane. He's probably good for 4 points per game just with sticks backs.
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I got a feeling you are going to see a very much improved 3-point shooter in DMO next year. AM consistently says good things about his work ethic and let's face it; 3-point shooting efficiency is all about endless practice in the off season. DMO has (to me at least) very good shooting technique, just needs a little more refining and I think he surprises LOTS of people next year. I really like his development. Remember, like many other 2011-12 Flyers, he was non-factor last year getting in rarely. He now pulls down nearly more rebounds per minute than any other Flyer. He needs to bulk up a little and shoot 500 3's a day this summer...
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I would like to be surprised. Too often I find myself cringing when the ball goes to DO on the perimeter.
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Gotta think the illness he had back in the summer slowed him down the first 10-15 games as that was really his time to both get in shape and keep the weight on. He has nice form from the 3 shot and just knocking down a few will could easily make him a double digit scorer next year with his ability and quickness with the bounce to get to the rim and into the lane. He's probably good for 4 points per game just with sticks backs.
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I checked ridnour's twitter, he said "had fun down at UD today." Sounds like a good payer at a definite need position.
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I went to the Sectional Finals in Westchester County and saw Isaiah Cousins. This kid looks like a player (6'4" about 200 lbs.). He has a very smooth stroke and is really quick. The competition wasn't great but he demonstrated a great court awareness, passing for several alley-oops and had 4 steals. He only had 11 pts. but his team was up by 42 at one point so he hardly played in the 2nd half. From my local paper:
"Cousins finished with 11 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assits and 4 steals, playing in front of several Division 1 college coaches, including Oklahoma, South Carolina, UConn, Xavier and Dayton".
He was the tourney MVP.
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Isaiah Cousins sounds like a name that will be a good player. Call me nuts/superstitious but guys with the name Dewey Finkelstein never amount to much.
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Isaiah Cousins sounds like a name that will be a good player. Call me nuts/superstitious but guys with the name Dewey Finkelstein never amount to much.
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@TheRecruitScoop UConn has offered Isaiah Cousins, a 2012 SG from Mount Vernon (NY), per his coach. South Carolina, Oklahoma & Xavier offered yesterday.
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Western Kentucky guard transferring, considering Dayton
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Closer to home?
If UD is on his list the kid needs a geography lesson...if being closer to home in NJ is his objective.
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UD can get him a geography tutor after the transfer paperwork is complete. Not a great shooter, but he's a very good player who has proven he can play at the D1 level for an NCAA tourney team. Can score the basketball, is a good ballhandler and a a great rebounder for a guard. He'd be a contributor for sure with 3 years of eligibility. If we took him, we'd still have to go get another guard who can help out next year.
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If UD is on his list the kid needs a geography lesson...if being closer to home in NJ is his objective.
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I am suprised that Danny Hurley and URI aren't on that list too.
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UD can get him a geography tutor after the transfer paperwork is complete. Not a great shooter, but he's a very good player who has proven he can play at the D1 level for an NCAA tourney team. Can score the basketball, is a good ballhandler and a a great rebounder for a guard. He'd be a contributor for sure with 3 years of eligibility. If we took him, we'd still have to go get another guard who can help out next year.
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...does he want to be close to home, or not? There are some pretty good Big East teams close to NJ. "Close to home" often refers to being close enough for family to see a guy play, with reasonable convenience, e.g., no more than a couple of hours drive.
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Technically, if his objective is to move closer to home (Elizabeth, NJ), then Dayton would put him 4 hours closer. Now, he still wouldn't be very close to home. But he would be closer than Western KY.
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the things he said are what players generally say when leaving instead "I don't like it here and with the coaching change I want out".
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HOw does this 6 foot 2 inch guard, grab 6.7 rebounds a game.
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Gordon was part of an HBO documentary, Prayer for a Perfect Season.
http://highschoolhoop.com/high-schoo...game-prevails/
One of the storylines was about his struggle to deal with his twin brother's imprisonment on gun charges. Supposedly, he wants to move back closer to home so he can visit him. He might be able to get the NCAA to give him the hardship waiver where he wouldn't have to sit out a year if he chooses Seton Hall.
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Frank Martin has landed his first official visit as USC's new basketball coach. 6-5 Thaddeus Hall of Brooklyn, NY has set an official visit with the Gamecocks for April 13 according to New York Post prep reporter Zach Braziller. Martin met with Hall Thursday while in New York. Hall also was visited by Dayton coach Archie Miller. Hall also has offers from Fordham, St. Johns, Hofstra, Virginia Tech and Maryland. He has visited St. Johns unofficially and might visit Maryland. Hall plans to make a decision by the end of the month.
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What? Jevon Thomas is now a 2013? Where did you hear that?
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Originally Posted by bcross
Definitely need a PG now with Thomas reclassifying to the 2013 class.
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Yikes!
OK, the story is all over the A10 board. He is still committed (supposedly) to UD. No reason given for the reclassification in the tweet that announced it.
What a revoltin' development.
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Originally Posted by bobber
Yikes!
OK, the story is all over the A10 board. He is still committed (supposedly) to UD. No reason given for the reclassification in the tweet that announced it.
What a revoltin' development.
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heres the twitter account that reported it:
@SteveKellerNRR: Javon Thomas is going to Quality Education in NC & reclass to 2013. PG is athletic & best going to basket. Settling in as good Mid DI.
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It isn't a surprise. His chances of qualifying were very low. I would be surprised if he ever plays at UD. Have never heard if Scott gothis GPA up enough to qualify. Rumor in fall was that was iffy. Said back then there was a chance only Robinson would suit up.
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Originally Posted by longtimefan
One of the guys at the Masters yesterday (forget who) was asked if he felt stress during his round. He said that he tries not to feel stress because stress causes him to get stressed out.
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Originally Posted by bcross
Definitely need a PG now with Thomas reclassifying to the 2013 class.
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I assume you are not comfortable with having Thomas as the starting pg in 2013 with Thomas as a freshman? If UD signs a 2012 pg, then Thomas may choose to go somewhere else because he doesn't want to compete for playing time with that 2012 pg. I also would not be thrilled about starting Thomas at pg as a freshman in 2013, so UD may have no choice other than to bring in a 2012 pg, or maybe they could bring in a JUCO pg for 2013.
And also there will be no backup for Dillard in 2012, so this is definitely a problem.
Next year's roster without Thomas:
1. Dillard
2. Sanford
3. Derenbecker
4. Oliver
5. Hill
6. Benson
7. Robinson
8. Scott
9. Kavanaugh
10. Gavrilovich
11. open
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I assume you are not comfortable with having Thomas as the starting pg in 2013 with Thomas as a freshman? If UD signs a 2012 pg, then Thomas may choose to go somewhere else because he doesn't want to compete for playing time with that 2012 pg.
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If player doesn't want to compete for a starting position, then he (or she) shouldn't come to Dayton (see Juwan Staten). Healthy competition builds a team, instead of tearing it down.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer
If player doesn't want to compete for a starting position, then he (or she) shouldn't come to Dayton (see Juwan Staten). Healthy competition builds a team, instead of tearing it down.
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I agree, and what you say is all fine and good, but I don't think it is very realistic. If I was Thomas, I wouldn't want UD bringing in a 2012 pg, and I wouldn't want to have to compete with that guy for playing time. I doubt taking a hard line on things like this with players works, the player might just tell you to take a hike.
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How does the Thomas development affect how hard we go after Ridenour? I've seen some scouting reports show Ridenour as a PG, and others show him as a SG/Combo. And while I know Ridenour's not exactly on the honor roll himself, I believe he has at least qualified, has he not?
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Originally Posted by ud2
I agree, and what you say is all fine and good, but I don't think it is very realistic. If I was Thomas, I wouldn't want UD bringing in a 2012 pg, and I wouldn't want to have to compete with that guy for playing time. I doubt taking a hard line on things like this with players works, the player might just tell you to take a hike.
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So what you are saying is that you can only recruit one person for each position. I don't know why Thomas should think he is the starting point guard without even competing for the position. Ridenour apparently doesn't have a problem with competing with or sharing time with Thomas. I would hope Thomas wouldn't have a problem with Ridenour (or any other pg recruit). I would want recruits who are willing to fight for a position, unlike Yates.
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Originally Posted by T-Bone 84
How does the Thomas development affect how hard we go after Ridenour? I've seen some scouting reports show Ridenour as a PG, and others show him as a SG/Combo. And while I know Ridenour's not exactly on the honor roll himself, I believe he has at least qualified, has he not?
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I don't believe he has qualified.
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Originally Posted by ud2
I agree, and what you say is all fine and good, but I don't think it is very realistic. If I was Thomas, I wouldn't want UD bringing in a 2012 pg, and I wouldn't want to have to compete with that guy for playing time. I doubt taking a hard line on things like this with players works, the player might just tell you to take a hike.
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I do believe there are some players who are so insecure and thin-skinned that known competition would scare them away (and it did with JS). I just don't know of a coach that would assure a player the starting spot unless the coach is pretty sure he has the next Allen Iverson or Derrick Rose. We don't get those guys-- ever. We try to recruit potential and develop them. Many top tier programs can recruit two equally talented studs and when player A loses out to player B, player A transfers out occasionally.
Do you think Dillard doesn't want Thomas next season? Not a chance. Dillard came to UD to compete. After all, JS was getting boat-loads of accolades before Dillard picked Dayton. KD knew what the landscape was. It was JS that wilted under the bright lights.
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So what you are saying is that you can only recruit one person for each position. I don't know why Thomas should think he is the starting point guard without even competing for the position. Ridenour apparently doesn't have a problem with competing with or sharing time with Thomas. I would hope Thomas wouldn't have a problem with Ridenour (or any other pg recruit). I would want recruits who are willing to fight for a position, unlike Yates.
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I don't know what is going to happen, I'm just saying that Thomas might have some concerns about Archie bringing in a 2012 pg, maybe I'm wrong.
Ridenour is 6'1", 170 pounds from Cleveland Heights, Ohio, Benedictine High School.
Ratings:
--0 stars from Rivals. He's got offers from Akron and Kent State. Rivals is listing him as a point guard.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/dayton/baske...idenour-120154
--2 stars from Scout. The Scout page doesn't list which schools are offering him. Scout is listing him as a shooting guard.
http://dayton.scout.com/a.z?s=429&p=8&c=1&nid=5307684
--hasn't been evaluated by ESPN. ESPN is listing him as a point guard.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/ba...smond-ridenour
--This page is also showing that he has an offer from TCU.
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/desmond-ridenour
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Originally Posted by ud2
I assume you are not comfortable with having Thomas as the starting pg in 2013 with Thomas as a freshman? If UD signs a 2012 pg, then Thomas may choose to go somewhere else because he doesn't want to compete for playing time with that 2012 pg. I also would not be thrilled about starting Thomas at pg as a freshman in 2013, so UD may have no choice other than to bring in a 2012 pg, or maybe they could bring in a JUCO pg for 2013.
And also there will be no backup for Dillard in 2012, so this is definitely a problem.
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Who starts in 2013 really isn't the issue for me. Looking more at the lineup for 2012.
Certainly, if UD signs a PG in 2012 Thomas could chose to go elsewhere, but he could decide to do that regardless of what we do. If we don't sign a PG in 2012, we are still going to be looking to sign a PG for 2013. The competition for PT is still going to be there regardless.
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By most account Ridenour is unliky to qualify either. And from scuttlebut I have heard it is no certainty Scott gets through the clearinghouse. He may be a partial qualifier (practice, scholarship, no play). It will be close call.
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if thomas is that worried its his own fault. get your butt to campus and get to work. you can't hold a coach hostage like that, i guess maybe if you're a top 10 recruit...but archie can't sit around on his hands waiting for a kid.
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IMO ridenour is a non issue for Thomas
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Saw where Moore said the dukes are no longer an option. We will see if he gets a full release
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Ryan Taylor, a 6-foot-6 prep school basketball star, is planning to make an official visit to Dayton just weeks after making an unofficial visit to UD.
Asked if that means he’s getting serious about the Flyers, Taylor said: “Yes, I am.”
He averaged 22 points and 11 rebounds for Hargrave Military Academy this season. He once was committed to Louisville, but the Cardinals’ interest waned when his academics became an issue. . . Taylor said he’s learned to apply himself academically at Hargrave, and the coach agreed. The player’s last hurdle is getting past the ACT test, which he’ll take Saturday.
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Ryan Taylor, a 6-foot-6 prep school basketball star, is planning to make an official visit to Dayton just weeks after making an unofficial visit to UD.
Asked if that means he’s getting serious about the Flyers, Taylor said: “Yes, I am.”
He averaged 22 points and 11 rebounds for Hargrave Military Academy this season. He once was committed to Louisville, but the Cardinals’ interest waned when his academics became an issue. . . Taylor said he’s learned to apply himself academically at Hargrave, and the coach agreed. The player’s last hurdle is getting past the ACT test, which he’ll take Saturday.
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Wow. That would be a pretty big accomplishment at this point.
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Taylor sounds pretty great. I just wish he was a guard. If Dayton gets Taylor and Sibert, that means room to add just one more guard to the roster. I 'd really prefer 2 more guards.
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Taylor sounds pretty great. I just wish he was a guard. If Dayton gets Taylor and Sibert, that means room to add just one more guard to the roster. I 'd really prefer 2 more guards.
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http://www.basketballforum.com/atlan...iting-153.html
There is a highlight video in this link. Taylor looks pretty comfortable handling the ball and loves to drive to the hoop and play inside.
Love to have this kid.
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Praise the Lord. I assume he is a 2012 recruit from the tone of the article.
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I would love to get Taylor. He is a load inside.
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Didn't see his J form, but he seems a bit like a sober Norm Plummer. Lots of lane moves and a nose for rebounds and stick-backs.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer
Didn't see his J form, but he seems a bit like a sober Norm Plummer. Lots of lane moves and a nose for rebounds and stick-backs.
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And he can dribble
I like the comments from his coach - great teammate, great rebounder, great basketball IQ, an unbelievable kid.
He doesn't plan to prolong his decision because we doesn't want to hold up a scholarship that could go to another player. I had to read that twice to make sure I read it correctly.
Archie recruited him when he was at OSU, and Taylor likes Archie and his offensive system. He sounds like a good one.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer
Didn't see his J form, but he seems a bit like a sober Norm Plummer. Lots of lane moves and a nose for rebounds and stick-backs.
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I see him as having a much more physical style than Plummer. Plummer did his work with his long arms and ranginess. Unfortunately, Plummer was forced to play pf for us as a small-bodied underclassman. I think that Taylor gets his advantage with his shoulders and looks division one strong right from the start.
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I noticed he finished about every way possible with and without the board. No dunks. Couldn't quite tell on the hops. Norm of course was lift-challenged.
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One advantage UD has is they can admit him if he fails to qualify. Many BCS conferences do not permit schools to accept partial or nonqualifiers. Xavier has definitely plated that to their advantage over the years. UD not so much. Feels as if there is a little loosening of the reins in that regard. Which would be good. But if Sibert does transfer and Taylor signs and doesn't qualify there is a real premium on the last scholarship.
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Kid can play. And dunk, by the way. Here's a better look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzKn02XoiH4
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looks like between UD, seton hall, BC. says here he visited those two and has no other visits lined up as well as making a decision after the visit at dayton.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayto...d-1359253.html
do you have to have a qualifying ACT score to take official visits or not? wondering if the visits to seton hall or BC were official or not.
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I see him as having a much more physical style than Plummer. Plummer did his work with his long arms and ranginess. Unfortunately, Plummer was forced to play pf for us as a small-bodied underclassman. I think that Taylor gets his advantage with his shoulders and looks division one strong right from the start.
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yep...Plummer was not a real athletic kid........Not a jumper, slow afoot, etc....He used a lot of pump fakes and some BB smarts out there and as you mentioned..He did have a knack for being fairly relentless and being in the right spot....Probably could have seen a better NP with a true commitment to getting better..
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Plummer was just a little scrappiness short of being Ryan Perriman. If we could get another RP type, I would be in basketball heaven watching that for 4 years.
Short of the traveling at the free throw line, of course.
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My understanding is you have to have a qualifying test score to take an official visit. That downstream line up with what is in the press about his needing to get an ACT score. However the score required to qualify is on a sliding scale so it is possible his score qualifies to visit but he needs a highr score to qualify to play. That's plausible since he had grade issues in past so core GPA is likely at the low end meaning he needs a higher ACT.
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Now THAT is some sizzle. We need this player.
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Sounds like he's leaning toward the Flyers. A great get if it happens.
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The latest articles/blogs from DH have provided some good information and have been much appreciated. His coverage of the Flyers was criticized a while ago, but IMO DH deserves some Kudos for a job well done this past year...keep up the good work, Doug. http://udpride.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
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Here is what Eric Bossi, Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting Analyst, had to say about Ryan Taylor in an article he wrote taking a look back at what we learned at the National Prep Showcase that took place in New Haven, Conn last November. "The former Louisville signee plays a game similar to that of former Kansas player Mario Little. He gets on the glass, knocks down stationary jumpers and finishes in transition."
The games also featured the #1 player in the 2012 class, 6'10" center Nerlens Noel who just committed to Kentucky. 6'8" 265lb Dominic Woodson 2013 class. Jakarr Sampson (St. John's), Aaron Ross (Texas Tech) and Sam Cassell, a guard that Dayton, UConn, Florida St and Villanova were all in on before he recently committed to Maryland.
As you can see, Taylor was in fast company and more than held his own. I hope we get this kid. The you tube video is a must see! I am confident that AM will get a pt. guard or combo guard that fits in well with his system.
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At this time, yes. It's the only school on his list he can go to if he doesn't get the needed ACT score. I find it encouraging he expects to make a decision after his visit, which is likely before the ACT scores come out.
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Ryan Taylor is a guy that could come in and start immediately at the 3 or the 4... Dude is dynamic... Instant Impact!
Man... Taylor, Derenbecker & Oliver (you can also add Jalen if you believe he is a 3 at the next level)... That would be one heck of a trio (or foursome) of wingmen
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Someone on the A-10 board mentioned that Duquesne gave Willie Moore an unconditional release, meanting that he's free to sign w/ UD if he likes. Archie was recruiting him last summer, but never offered. Perhaps he offers now.
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At this time, yes. It's the only school on his list he can go to if he doesn't get the needed ACT score. I find it encouraging he expects to make a decision after his visit, which is likely before the ACT scores come out.
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i'm lost here, i have seen it posted before, but you're talking about partial qualifying right? why is it BCS schools can't/won't do that?
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Give me Ryan Taylor, one of Willie Moore or Jerron Wilbut, and a transfer (like Jordan Sibert) with the last 3 schollies and I will be extremely pumped.
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
Give me Ryan Taylor, one of Willie Moore or Jerron Wilbut, and a transfer (like Jordan Sibert) with the last 3 schollies and I will be extremely pumped.
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My hunch is your going to be a very happy man, as I predict your right. Maybe Ridenhour instead of Moore though.
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
Give me Ryan Taylor, one of Willie Moore or Jerron Wilbut, and a transfer (like Jordan Sibert) with the last 3 schollies and I will be extremely pumped.
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I think most of us would be very happy with that. We will need a poll asking for how the recruiting class is ranked
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Originally Posted by UDBrian
I think most of us would be very happy with that. We will need a poll asking for how the recruiting class is ranked
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I agree, after the class is completed
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Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic08
i'm lost here, i have seen it posted before, but you're talking about partial qualifying right? why is it BCS schools can't/won't do that?
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Several, if not all, of the BCS conferences have conference rules that do not permit them to enroll any athlete who fails to qualify as a freshman. Any nonqualifier, or partial qualifier, goes the JUCO route or to prep school if they can reclassify.
It's why you see guys like Scott, Thomas and Taylor and their BCS suitors go in different directions. Once the BCS school starts to have serious doubts about qualifying they cut ties because they know they can't enroll them if they fail to fully qualify.
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