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Originally Posted by singlet_of_truth View Post
Unless Wabler is lying, his quote couldn't be more clear. There is no wiggle room in what he said - there has been no contact at all between UD and the BE7 (or their representatives). The way he phrased it was pretty jarring and not positive.
And Xavier's AD said the same thing. Bad news for them I guess.
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Rumors are swirling on ESPN and locally that Butler University plans to leave the Atlantic 10 for a new conference, but a university spokesman said the reports are not accurate.

"The story is not accurate and there is no agreement for Butler to join the new league," Allan told RTV6. "We are proud members of the A10 and focused on our big games with VCU this weekend."

http://www.theindychannel.com/sports...ng-atlantic-10
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You can drive a bus full of Rollos through the BU and XU AD's statements. You can't do the same with Wabler's statement. There is a huge difference. I any event, it's hard to tell whether this latest article is just more smoke.
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Happy with last night's win, hoping for three more, but that will only put us at 8-8 in the conference. We've been either 8-8 or one game either side of that five out of the previous six seasons.

For a program that has repeatedly voiced higher aspirations, to include membership in the C7 party, there is clearly something wrong with the formula we're using to get there.
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Who knows, the minute people start denying reports is the same time they begin to morph into truth
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Originally Posted by dcflyer View Post
FYI, Xavier's AD has made a statement not all that different than Wabler's.

From the Cincy Enquirer:


Xavier will join the Catholic Seven in the new-look Big East next fall according to this story on ESPN.com.

Musketeers athletic director Mike Bobinski said there is nothing happening on Xavier’s end at this point.

“We are aware of the surroundings and circumstances like everyone else is. I would not be surprised if ultimately we have an opportunity to have a conversation, but at this point that has not happened,” Bobinski said.
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I dont think you guys realize but this is very telling. X and UD both doing the ol' "i neither confirm nor deny" i understand people are upset we arent in initially as am I but the bottom line is we are eventually in and thats what matters.

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Old 03-01-2013, 01:54 AM
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According to this (March 1st dated) Accurate?? who knows.

http://www.thesportsbank.net/college...onference-731/

only Butler and Xavier are definite.
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Feb 28, 9pm article

This article at least mentions Dayton - - - way down after the football and Big East name stuff

http://www.courant.com/sports/colleg...,5702608.story


"The basketball schools are expected to add three members to form a 10-team league. Besides Xavier and Butler, Dayton, St. Louis and Creighton have been mentioned as possible members."

Also talks about some sort of "decision" Friday. (today)
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Everyone who is saying their is no wiggle room in Wabler's statement fails Politics 101.

He stated that there has been no contact with anyone REPRESENTING THE CATHOLIC 7.

So UD could have talked to numerous individuals but none of them were speaking for the Catholic 7 because it is not a formal organization and has no representatives other than the ones hired to help with the TV talks.
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Even if UD stays in the new A-11, it's by no means the end of the world. That's still a 2 or 3 bid league most years, and the Flyers should be one of the top teams most years. Kissel and now Wabler have done a good job playing the RPI/SOS game with the schedule and I don't see how this changes things too much. I would be shocked if we don't continue to play X every year so the only teams I will really miss playing is Temple and Umass. I think this could lead to more ncaa appearances.
What in the world have you seen that makes you believe that?

If UD doesn't get into this conference, it's a game-changer for the program - in a negative way. Frankly, I have little interest in watching UD play Bona, GW, Belmont, Davidson and Duquesne ad nauseam. The fan support, fan interest, attendance, arena and facilities for this team is MUCH higher than that. I'm flabbergasted that some people think otherwise.

Step up or pack it up.

And I'll add that every little report hilariously sways emotions on this board to ridiculous extremes. ESPiN and SI say UD gets the invite in 2014 and it's balloons, parades and confetti in here. Then an hour later Wabler denies contact and we're talking depression, funerals, Horizon League, etc. ... Come on! What do you think Wabler is going to say at this point? The x AD denied everything also. It's baseball GM speak. Walt Jocketty wrote the book: "No, we've had absolutely no discussions with anyone regarding any player. Everything has been quiet." ... Five minutes later there's a blockbuster 5-player trade completed.

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It's baseball GM speak. Walt Jocketty wrote the book: "No, we've had absolutely no discussions with anyone regarding any player. Everything has been quiet." ... Five minutes later there's a blockbuster 5-player trade completed.
So Walt...Has it been Five Minutes Yet???
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Sorry flyers/avs...that was not directed toward you.

I am just to the point now that I want an answer from someone credible...NOW! Ok, so we're not in the "Charter Group", but other than some of the same crap about, "probable", "likely", "possibility", we have nothing to hang our hats on about whether or not UD will be a part of the Big East or not.

I just want to know...Yes or No!

I shouldn't be angry about this, but I guess I am. From the middle of October through the middle of March, I like many of you, live for this team...and have done so since Sedric & Velvet. I was there when I didn't know any better and even welcomed the end of Coach Donoher's tenure. I learned about the ill-fated deal with Channel 7 when ESPN came calling and got mad when, again, I didn't know any better. I was there for 4-24 when schools like Duquesne couldn't get away from us fast enough. I was there when OP saved us from what, to me, might as well have been the depths of oblivion (irrelevancy) and to the doorstep of the NCAA tournament. I was there for the BG roller coaster ride that, for the most part, was a continuation of the upward trend. I am here now for ArchieBall, and like a marriage, will be with the Flyers for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, till my death do us part.

But this time, I know better. I see that Flyer Basketball is at the precipice of a new chapter in their history. A crossroads, if you will, that unfortunately, the choice of paths is not ours to decide.

And that my friends is why I am not only disappointed in the news today that we were not included in the first round of invitees, but distressed to find out that there are still no definites as to what the future holds.

I could go on and on...but I digress...for now. Thank you for your time.
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Originally Posted by Flyer69ers View Post
According to this (March 1st dated) Accurate?? who knows.

http://www.thesportsbank.net/college...onference-731/

only Butler and Xavier are definite.
My favorite part about these threads are all the links to different stories and sources to add validity to the news. All of these stem from the same ESPN source who broke the story on an unamed source.

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If we don't get into the new league, it is a complete and utter disaster. It's the one and only chance to play against similar, like minded basketball teams with whom we have historical rivalries. The new watered down A-10 schedule, and our terrible OOC slate, may do the one thing that not even 4 and 5 win seasons could do - kill attendance/the golden goose. We've gone too many years without running the program like a big time program. Hopefully it doesn't kill us.
This is a career-defining moment for Curran and Wabler.
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This isn't too reassuring...

From DDN:
UD Athletic Director Tim Wabler has been following the developments but said the school hasn’t been contacted.

“There’s been no communication at all with anyone representing the Catholic 7 and the University of Dayton,” he said. “We’re reading the same reports, but we haven’t heard anything.”

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...may-add/nWdF6/
Then WHY DOESN'T Curran pick up the phone and call one of the C7 Presidents? Forget Wabler, he's wearing puppet strings! If ESPN and others are going to throw Dayton's name up on the screen as a future C7 member, then dammit our leadership better have an understanding of WTF is going on.

Does AM recruit selling the A10 or the Big East?

As someone already stated, this is career defining for Curran and Wabler...especially Wabler. And he's getting off on the wrong foot with the "I know nothing" comment.

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Very disappointed if we are not in a competitive conference. This affects every sport.

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What in the world have you seen that makes you believe that?

If UD doesn't get into this conference, it's a game-changer for the program - in a negative way. Frankly, I have little interest in watching UD play Bona, GW, Belmont, Davidson and Duquesne ad nauseam. The fan support, fan interest, attendance, arena and facilities for this team is MUCH higher than that. I'm flabbergasted that some people think otherwise.

Step up or pack it up.

And I'll add that every little report hilariously sways emotions on this board to ridiculous extremes. ESPiN and SI say UD gets the invite in 2014 and it's balloons, parades and confetti in here. Then an hour later Wabler denies contact and we're talking depression, funerals, Horizon League, etc. ... Come on! What do you think Wabler is going to say at this point? The x AD denied everything also. It's baseball GM speak. Walt Jocketty wrote the book: "No, we've had absolutely no discussions with anyone regarding any player. Everything has been quiet." ... Five minutes later there's a blockbuster 5-player trade completed.

I completely agree with you. The only point I will make is, yes, it's would be great to get an invite. However, why would they make us wait a year? Is that our choice as a way of saving $1M in the exit clause? I can't imagine we would take that stance as the ROI is there with the new TV contract, etc.

Why wouldn't the new conference want to ramp up from day one? If we have the good fortune to join the Big East, are we being treated like the red-headed step child that we so enjoy to be? Everyone will spin it, but that rubs me the wrong way. Why wait? To me, I don't think this bodes well for us.

If we don't get in, it will set the program back 20 years. Kissell put a roadmap together when he took the program over and made a lot of efforts and spent a lot of money to position our program for this very moment. If that's p1ssed away, there will be a lot of unhappy fans and supporters.

My advice to our leaders.....as Blake said in "Glengarry Glenross', "The money's out there, you pick it up, it's yours. You don't, I've got no sympathy for you."

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From everything that has been reported to date, it seems that the College Presidents are the ones heading up the discussions on the formulation of the new league (i.e. it is the President of Georgetown, not the Hoyas AD, who was designated to lead the effort to separate from the FB schools and form the new league.) Obviously the Office of the President would have input from his/her AD, but the ADs would not be meeting among themselves to form the league. Hence, each and every AD can plausibly and truthfully say that they themselves have not been contacted about joining the new league by the C7. A more pertinent question would be to ask if the AD has had discussions with the President or the Trustees of the University about the desirability, logistics, of joining the new league, etc., etc., etc.

If exit fees are an issue (with a one year notice costing a school $2MM versus $1MM for a two year notice), a decision on who would be added in the 2014-15 season (if the new league goes to 12 teams then from 9/10 originally) would need to be made simultaneously with formulation of the new league, otherwise there are no savings to be had by waiting. So lets all calm down people and see how things actually pan out before panicking...a decision will be made soon.
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Unless Wabler is lying, his quote couldn't be more clear. There is no wiggle room in what he said - there has been no contact at all between UD and the BE7 (or their representatives). The way he phrased it was pretty jarring and not positive.
I guess you missed that the Xavier AD said the same thing.
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I guess you missed that the Xavier AD said the same thing.
Have you actually read the quote from X's AD? And Wabler's quote? I suggest you do so. There is a big difference between the two. If you can't see that, that's fine, I don't know what to tell you.

The only one failing Politics 101 re: Wabler's statement is Wabler. If anything, he comes off as completely clueless. If we end up in the BE7, we will end up falling backwards into it.
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And I'll add that every little report hilariously sways emotions on this board to ridiculous extremes. ESPiN and SI say UD gets the invite in 2014 and it's balloons, parades and confetti in here. Then an hour later Wabler denies contact and we're talking depression, funerals, Horizon League, etc. ... Come on! .
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UD to Big East in '14?

I don't see it. Why would a league that is currently organizing, adding Butler and XU, not go ahead and complete their league right now? By setting up right now they can set their schedules, divisions, etc. UD hoping for inclusion in '14 is just that.....hope. And UD and the remainder of the A-10 schools are going to have to "reorganize" and add G. Mason, Belmont, etc., for one year (?) and then join the Big East. Won't happen.

To say I am disappointed that we are not being included currently is a true understatement. We've been told - and UD has done a gerat job - that we had to improve all our athletic facilities so that when the next opportunity to join the "next best league" comes about we will be ready. Ted Kissel goes into the UD HOF Sat basically for his leadership in this regard. We have the facilities in place - but no offer. We are starting over....back to where we were when we did not get in the Great Midwest.

How can an athletic dept. that has hosted 10,000 NCAA games not be "good enough" for the new Big East? How can a program that averages 12,000 plus at home not be good enough for the new Big East?

How can a program that has fans that travel so well not be good enough for the new Big East?

How can a program that carried the banner for non-BCS basketball schools in the midwest from 1950-1990 (while Butler and XU were doing little) not be good enough for the new Big East? When Butler and XU join the Big East I'd drop them like a rock friom our schedule - I don't care if I ever see either team in the arena again. I don't blame them at all for going to the BE - I just don't want to see them until we beat them in the NCAA tourney!

Ironically, our neighbors in Fairborn just might become our real rival.

Please paint a more optomistic picture then I have above.

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Too many are reading too much into Wablers comment. You don't even know what the question was.

Harris: I see ESPN says UD is going to join the Big East in
2014. So I guess the C7 called and extended an invite.

Bobinski says there have been no conversations with the C7 but expects there might be in the future. That in the future is about all that is different.

And in these type of things it wouldn't shock me if someone flat lied. You don't owe the press an answer if everyone wants it quiet.

I have no idea if UD gets invited or not. Mens hoops has certainly underperformed it's resources for a long time. Although I don't know that that is all that much a factor.
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How can a program that carried the banner for non-BCS basketball schools in the midwest from 1950-1990 (while Butler and XU were doing little) not be good enough for the new Big East?
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Let's look at some good news; with Xavier Butler Temple and Charlotte out of the A10 next year, we've already clinched a spot in NEXT YEAR'S A-10 tournament.

I also think being in the A-10 next year might be a blessing for a young team. It could give us some seasoning and maybe some experience winning. The ideal scenario is a-10 next year with definitive announcement that we move to the Big East the following year. That gives us a chance to mature, win, and recruit to the big east. If that happens we are very lucky.

If we don't get in the big east then the world will come to an end. Sort of like with sequester
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Unless Wabler is lying, his quote couldn't be more clear. There is no wiggle room in what he said - there has been no contact at all between UD and the BE7 (or their representatives). The way he phrased it was pretty jarring and not positive.
The X AD said same thing. Are you telling me they haven't been contacted? Not likely.
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I can't believe the number of people who have decided we aren't in because reports say we are. It's insane. I had to go over to the Richmond board just to make sure they weren't celebrating their obvious inclusion.

If UD is in, they likely know. They don't have long to give the A10 their one year notice, and I imagine FOX wants to know who they are getting before signing on the dotted line for a TV contract that begins next season. The AD is going to say there have been no discussions even if all 7 presidents are currently sitting in his office (although as many have pointed out, this is an issue between the presidents and not likely the ADs). I know as Flyer fans we tend to expect the worst, but can't we try and avoid the fatalism just a bit when presented with news that, on its face, seems pretty good?
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I can think of one really good reason why the new conference would plan on adding teams in progression. Once again, money.

If they go into TV negotiations with 9 or 10 teams (whatever the first year is) and only negotiate the contract based on those teams, then when they add teams the next year, they can renegotiate. At that point, they would have some ratings data from the first year and point out that they are adding very well followed basketball programs on top of that. At that point they can simply pull a Rod Tidwell and let the broadcasters fight it out.

I have heard people discussing the TV money already, but I haven't seen where that information came from. If I am a member of the new conference the first year, I want a chance to renegotiate as soon as possible. A nice side benefit of conference expansion.
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I'm somewhat wondering if next season is our 'probation' period for the invite....same with the others on the 2014 fence.
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I don't see it. Why would a league that is currently organizing, adding Butler and XU, not go ahead and complete their league right now? By setting up right now they can set their schedules, divisions, etc. UD hoping for inclusion in '14 is just that.....hope. And UD and the remainder of the A-10 schools are going to have to "reorganize" and add G. Mason, Belmont, etc., for one year (?) and then join the Big East. Won't happen.
I don't pretend to have the inner ear of anyone inside any athletic department, however I can think of several scenerios why they might go w/ 9 (or 10) for a season, then increase to 12 the following:

1) Perhaps ND needs a home for a season, before they can get into the ACC. In exchange for a handful of garunteed OOC home & homes moving forward, they've agreed to allow ND in for 1 season. That would be a win/win for both sides, not to mention the unnameless conference that is looking to move forward as quick as possible.

2) There are costs associated with keeping the Big East name, Fox has agreed to allow them to spend a season w/ less teams, but keep the reported total payment of 40 mil to offset the costs of startup and name rights. (I didn't come up with that, I saw it floated on somewhere else as a possibility)

3) Knowing how 1 series of massive departures has hurt them in the past, they made a gentleman's agreement with the A-10 to take 2 the first season, 2 more the following so the A-10 has a chance to recoup and move forward.

All 3 are fairly reasonable reasons, though I have no idea if there is any truth to any of it. Heck, the ESPN report might be off slightly, and they'll go to 12 right away. If the plan is indeed to be at 12 team in 2014, we should know quickly as UD would have to announce their intentions probably before summer hits to allow for the 1 year window in the A-10 by laws.

things I don't believe, that UD hasn't been in contact w/ people in the C7. Perhaps they're on the outside looking in, but there is no way there have been 0 contact. I don't care what Tim W said, I've seen that act played out across the country way too many times to take for face value what he said. I don't believe that the C7, A10 and all parties involved don't already know the final outcome. You don't leave your current gig, unless you know what your future gig is going to be. You don't enter TV negotiations w/o a solid plan, and know how all parties involved are going to react.

The money they can make at 12 teams is going to be more than they can at 9 or 10 teams. A 10 team conference is looking at 3-5 NCAA bids, a 12 team conference is looking at 4-6 bids most season. Then there is the increased payout reportadly from Fox for going 12 teams vs 10. With the B10, SEC, ACC, all going to the 14 team+ model, it wouldn't suprise me to see the new big east sitting at 14 teams w/n the next 10 seasons.
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I think it is interesting that it is ESPN reporting what is happening on Fox.
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I'm somewhat wondering if next season is our 'probation' period for the invite....same with the others on the 2014 fence.
I'm almost afraid to admit it, but I thought the same thing. Even more reason for Curran to pick up the phone and get (to the extent that he can) some straight answers from crooked people.
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fox isn't going to report something until the deal is signed. ESPN and others have no issue in promoting the endless speculation and rumors
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Is there a report of another meteorite coming?
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call me a utopian dreamer, but, with Charlotte and Temple already leaving, it would be close to catastrophic for the A10 to lose 4 more schools with little notice. maybe, just maybe, there were 4 schools set to go in 2014-15, but with the timeline accelerated to 2013-14 there was no feasible way that all four schools would leave at the same time. so in a sort of compromise 2 schools agreed to wait to give the a10 a bit of time to find replacements and ensure they have 12 schools. I know in this world it would be hard to believe that schools wouldbe that considerate, but i like to think that at least my school would do what it can to leave in a way that doesn't completely burn bridges to the ground. I have no idea if this is the case but it is feasible.

or maybe i'm just reaching to find some glimmer of light in the vast pool of darkness that we are in....who knows, but hopefully the entire story will be known next week.
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Is there a report of another meteorite coming?

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fox isn't going to report something until the deal is signed. ESPN and others have no issue in promoting the endless speculation and rumors
There was nothing on foxsports.com last night, which makes sense, they don't want the schools blabbing about it, the schools don't want them blabbing about it until all is signed, sealed and delivered.
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The idea that next year would be a probationary period to decide if UD gets an invite into the New Big East is a completely ludicrous notion. This in NOT how these things work. You actually believe that the C7 would base its invitation to the league upon how a team performs in a single season? Trust me, there will be a lot more data considered than that. Simply not realistic.
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i know someone posted they had a source that was a former asst AD at X....but how about the others who have posted about their sources in the past.

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As a friend of mine in the hospitality business used to say to chronic complainers and nay sayers - "is anything okay?".
You gotta take small victories where/when you get them. At least we haven't been griping about the defense, lack of coaching adjustments, team chemistry for 24 hours now.

I am more skeptical than Chris. There is no 'good for UD' reason to wait until 2014 despite any positive spin. I won't believe this happens until I get my tickets and see Georgtown, Marquette, Seton Hall etc etched in gold on them.

In high school we had a name for girls that did this to us and it wasn't positive or hopeful in nature.
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This is an exciting time for UD grads and fans....and if you're a true Flyer Fan, like me, it shouldn't matter what happens because you'll support them forever, regardless!

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or at least until the next losing streak!
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I've regained control of my account!

There will be no losing streaks if we get into the C7/BigEast because everyone knows that our problems have nothing to do with talent, coaching, Administration or money and everything to do with the lack of competition in the A10. We didn't lose to Rhode Island because they're better....we lost to them because they're not good enough!
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There will be no losing streaks if we get into the C7/BigEast because everyone knows that our problems have nothing to do with talent, coaching, Administration or money and everything to do with the lack of competition in the A10. We didn't lose to Rhode Island because they're better....we lost to them because they're not good enough!
Actually I expect us to be luckier in the BE. All our problems have been due to some sort of A10 curse - nothing more nothing less.
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call me a utopian dreamer, but, with Charlotte and Temple already leaving, it would be close to catastrophic for the A10 to lose 4 more schools with little notice. maybe, just maybe, there were 4 schools set to go in 2014-15, but with the timeline accelerated to 2013-14 there was no feasible way that all four schools would leave at the same time. so in a sort of compromise 2 schools agreed to wait to give the a10 a bit of time to find replacements and ensure they have 12 schools. I know in this world it would be hard to believe that schools wouldbe that considerate, but i like to think that at least my school would do what it can to leave in a way that doesn't completely burn bridges to the ground. I have no idea if this is the case but it is feasible.

or maybe i'm just reaching to find some glimmer of light in the vast pool of darkness that we are in....who knows, but hopefully the entire story will be known next week.
The DePaul AD made a remark suggesting consideration of the impact on "other conferences",...read, A10,...It's uncommon; but the seven schools are Catholic schools, FB is not involved,.....if they have selected four A10 schools, it's not unreasonable that they would consult with McGlade and agree to take two now and two a year later....giving the A10 time to adjust, add schools, deal with scheduling, etc.

What is unreasonable is that the C7 would select two schools now, X and BU,...plan to add two more in a year without yet knowing which two.

When the C7 make a formal announcement I expect them to make clear exactly what their plans are...and if I'm right about the A10 consideration, I think they will explain that as well.

They will not go with two now and two a year from now without explaining why,....in my opiniion.

These are Catholic schools.....some with priests as presidents....and FB is not involved. This is not the ACC. Is it unreasonable to think that they might actually be sensitive re the impact on the A10 and the schools in the A10, quite a few of which are Catholic schools?
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There will be no losing streaks if we get into the C7/BigEast because everyone knows that our problems have nothing to do with talent, coaching, Administration or money and everything to do with the lack of competition in the A10. We didn't lose to Rhode Island because they're better....we lost to them because they're not good enough!
we lost to them because we didn't have Khari Price
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On top of that, McGlade wants to know now what she's dealing with moving forward, if its set in stone that they're moving to 12 quickly.

If its SLU & Dayton, you probably scrap any midwest expansion plans on concentrate on a east coast expansion.

If Dayton and/or SLU is left behind, you focus expansion on another midwest school, otherwise risk losing them to the MVC.
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Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
The DePaul AD made a remark suggesting consideration of the impact on "other conferences",...read, A10,...It's uncommon; but the seven schools are Catholic schools, FB is not involved,.....if they have selected four A10 schools, it's not unreasonable that they would consult with McGlade and agree to take two now and two a year later....giving the A10 time to adjust, add schools, deal with scheduling, etc.
as well as, if its true that the buyout might be much less by giving notice ahead of time...that saves the C7 league money.

so it helps save money, it helps the A-10 adjust. seems like a win/win.

i do agree though, you would hope that when this formal announcement is made, they announce their intentions of what they might do in the future if it is indeed the case they are expanding.

i'm not entirely sure they'll explain why...i don't see the harm in doing so, but maybe they just leave that un said.

either way, i agree i just don't see how fox agrees to throw that type of cash around without knowing who the league is getting. not even a scenario where they tell them we're choosing between these 3-4 schools at a later date. i dont see fox even agreeing to that. they would want to know for sure who is coming aboard.
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Something to take Arch's mind off Christi Hester...

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this basically says the same thing we've been hearing:

but you you know...why not add more articles

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There will be no losing streaks if we get into the C7/BigEast because everyone knows that our problems have nothing to do with talent, coaching, Administration or money and everything to do with the lack of competition in the A10. We didn't lose to Rhode Island because they're better....we lost to them because they're not good enough!
I absolutely love, love this point of view that some people have around here regarding UD. It is so insane it is awesome.
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or at least until the next losing streak!
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While I do care in which conference UD lands, I'm almost to the point where I care less about where than when...I just want to know the answer, digest it, and move on.
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I'm somewhat wondering if next season is our 'probation' period for the invite....same with the others on the 2014 fence.
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Or unless MK comes back.
If UD perceives this latest report/rumor as a potential 'probation' period for acceptance into the C7East, there is no doubt that they'll roll out the red carpet for Kav's return. The risk is too great...and the ethics negotiable.
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The DePaul AD made a remark suggesting consideration of the impact on "other conferences",...read, A10,...It's uncommon; but the seven schools are Catholic schools, FB is not involved,.....if they have selected four A10 schools, it's not unreasonable that they would consult with McGlade and agree to take two now and two a year later....giving the A10 time to adjust, add schools, deal with scheduling, etc.

What is unreasonable is that the C7 would select two schools now, X and BU,...plan to add two more in a year without yet knowing which two.

When the C7 make a formal announcement I expect them to make clear exactly what their plans are...and if I'm right about the A10 consideration, I think they will explain that as well.

They will not go with two now and two a year from now without explaining why,....in my opiniion.

These are Catholic schools.....some with priests as presidents....and FB is not involved. This is not the ACC. Is it unreasonable to think that they might actually be sensitive re the impact on the A10 and the schools in the A10, quite a few of which are Catholic schools?
I can picture the scene. All the Catholic 7 , X and Butler meeting and discussing this. X says we need to think about the A10. All the Catholic 7 agree and then the non-Catholic Butler says F*#% the A10.
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For those of you who think UD is out because of Wabler's denial, I guess St. Louis is also out.

SLU athletic director Chris May said there was nothing to report on his end. “We’ve had no official conversations with them,” he said.

OK Chris, I guess they were "unofficial".

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Have you actually read the quote from X's AD? And Wabler's quote? I suggest you do so. There is a big difference between the two. If you can't see that, that's fine, I don't know what to tell you.

The only one failing Politics 101 re: Wabler's statement is Wabler. If anything, he comes off as completely clueless. If we end up in the BE7, we will end up falling backwards into it.
Both are denials. Drawing conclusions on the truth based on how strong the denial is simply reaching. There's no correlation. There's simply nothing there to draw a conclusion either way.
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I think this was already mentioned elsewhere, but Fox has a meeting with advertisers on March 5th in NYC. I think the advertisers bid on advertising slots on Fox's network at this meeting.

Something called upfront pricing. I'm not in the biz, so I don't really know what this is about.

Maybe nothing will be announced until after this meeting.



http://www.multichannel.com/marketin...nhattan/141798


"Fox Sports Media Group will hold an upfront presentation for advertisers in New York on March 5.

The event, slated for The Marquis Theater at 4 p.m., is expected to be the forum for when the media buying community officially finds out about FSMG’s plans for a pair of new national sports cable services.

A press event at 1:30 p.m. at the Marriott Marquis will be precede the presentation, which will be followed by a party at nearby Roseland Ballroom.

FSMG executives are expected to detail the plans for Fox Sports 1, which will be converted from Speed Channel, and Fox Sports 2, which will take the mantle from action sports proponent Fuel. The meeting is likely to also touch on Fox’s plans for its 22 regional sports networks, as well as programming on Fox Broadcast, which next February will include Super Bowl XLVIII from New Jersey"




http://www.onlocationvacations.com/2...onts-schedule/

"Though most of the major Network TV Upfronts don’t take place until May, we’ve already had several readers ask when and where this year’s events will take place so we wanted to share the 2012 schedule.

The Upfronts are annual presentations where the TV networks reveal their fall line-ups to advertisers. They also bring the biggest stars of their biggest shows out on stage to really impress the reporters. Though there is no public access to these events, they can still be a perfect opportunity to meet celebrities as they are arriving or leaving."


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Arch nailed it. All the posters on this thread rationalizing how not being accepted in phase1 makes sense are dilusional. No way UD tries to save $1 MM in exit fees but is willing to pass up 10 times the TV revenue at the same time. If they are, it sure would explain the past 25 years of mediocrity.

I see no way UD is mentioned in the formal announcement whenever it comes out and they aren't in immediately. If they are, it will be in vague terms with plenty of disclaimers.
The C7 may also state some noble cause for phasing in other teams (as others have posted) but that will be posturing only. It will do nothing but allow them time reconsider every option and that is bad for UD. If they were in love with us we'd be in.

If we do not end up getting in we better hope the A10 isn't beefed up as the only way we'll get a second look is if we become a consistent NCAA player and given 25 years of recent history that will not happen in a beefed up A10.
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For those of you who think UD is out because of Wabler's denial, I guess St. Louis is also out.

SLU athletic director Chris May said there was nothing to report on his end. “We’ve had no official conversations with them,” he said.

OK Chris, I guess they were "unofficial".

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this basically says the same thing we've been hearing:

but you you know...why not add more articles

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/colle...m84P9AiafuJtrO
That article, if accurate seems to provide an answer to just about everything. It doesn't mention that "according to ESPN..." but instead talks about sources for this, seperate sources for that, etc... Seems like ND is the main reason for pausing at 10 for now, then expanding to 12 w/ SLU & UD in 14-15.
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Marysville, what is the basis for your "seeing no way UD is mentioned in the formal announcement"? Pure conjecture based upon, nothing?

The fact is, no one knows anything at all with any degree of certainty except the administrators who are involved in the decision-making, and they aren't ready to talk.

Based upon what is being reported, our chances of getting in are no better, no worse than they were a month ago.
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That article, if accurate seems to provide an answer to just about everything. It doesn't mention that "according to ESPN..." but instead talks about sources for this, seperate sources for that, etc... Seems like ND is the main reason for pausing at 10 for now, then expanding to 12 w/ SLU & UD in 14-15.
thats what i was thought interesting as well.

not that they have to do that though. i mean ESPN a lot of the times, just says "source: blah blah blah" when a story is broke they didnt break. they get called out about that a lot...and recently i've seen them credit deadspin for the te'o story, and the alex smith deal was credited to jay glazer.

but yeah...i think the wording might be important there. leads me to believe the NY post are referring to their own sources.

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I have one logical explanation to the responses we are hearing from UD / X / BU. They all were told not to speak about this until some time in the future. If they did not follow this directive they would be eliminated from the expansion and another school would be found to replace them.
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I have one logical explanation to the responses we are hearing from UD / X / BU. They all were told not to speak about this until some time in the future. If they did not follow this directive they would be eliminated from the expansion and another school would be found to replace them.
lol...i doubt that was directed to them.

they were simply told not to say anything because the exit fee/lawyers talk are still all ongoing. don't want to jeopardize anything while that goes on.
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lol...i doubt that was directed to them.

they were simply told not to say anything because the exit fee/lawyers talk are still all ongoing. don't want to jeopardize anything while that goes on.

This is another plausible explanation.
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Marysville, what is the basis for your "seeing no way UD is mentioned in the formal announcement"? Pure conjecture based upon, nothing?

The fact is, no one knows anything at all with any degree of certainty except the administrators who are involved in the decision-making, and they aren't ready to talk.

Based upon what is being reported, our chances of getting in are no better, no worse than they were a month ago.
I somewhat agree with your premise but disagree in one important area. X and Butler have been the only constants in stories leaks etc in the past 6 months. Now that we are close to when details of decisions will be announced, the only for sure schools continue to be X and Butler. Only in UD land do people see us as such an attractive option.

The C7 is as greedy as BCS football and will only slice the pie more times if the pie becomes bigger. Any school they are sure will accomplish that will be invited. All the rest have warts and will have no guarantees granted to them.

And for those that think that BB is not that significant in the equation for getting in, explain X or Butler as neither offers anywhere close to what UD does outside of
BB. Unfortunately the last 25 years of mediocrity is presenting us with a huge hurdle the C7 has to leap over and several aren't willing to degrade the brand to that degree.

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Certainly not saying that basketball isn't important. It definitely is. However, there will be many factors taken into consideration (almost all of them relating to potential for profit) and the factors, including basketball, will be evaluated over a prolonged period. Whether we have a fabulous or mediocre season next year will matter next to none at all.
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Then WHY DOESN'T Curran pick up the phone and call one of the C7 Presidents? Forget Wabler, he's wearing puppet strings! If ESPN and others are going to throw Dayton's name up on the screen as a future C7 member, then dammit our leadership better have an understanding of WTF is going on.

Does AM recruit selling the A10 or the Big East?

As someone already stated, this is career defining for Curran and Wabler...especially Wabler. And he's getting off on the wrong foot with the "I know nothing" comment.
It's all smoke and mirrors. Give Wabler a little more credit and don't cast him as incompetent. He knows plenty - he's just not making any public statements about what may or may not happen. Saying he knows nothing is the polite was of saying - I'm not making any public statement. I've been getting the same from the SLU AD for weeks now.
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It's all smoke and mirrors. Give Wabler a little more credit and don't cast him as incompetent. He knows plenty - he's just not making any public statements about what may or may not happen. Saying he knows nothing is the polite was of saying - I'm not making any public statement. I've been getting the same from the SLU AD for weeks now.

I agree, everybody lay off Wabler. Let's see how this all plays out before we start assigning blame. UD may still end up in the c7 league, it is too soon to say what is going to happen.
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I somewhat agree with your premise but disagree in one important area. X and Butler have been the only constants in stories leaks etc in the past 6 months. Now that we are close to when details of decisions will be announced, the only for sure schools continue to be X and Butler. Only in UD land do people see us as such an attractive option.

The C7 is as greedy as BCS football and will only slice the pie more times if the pie becomes bigger. Any school they are sure will accomplish that will be invited. All the rest have warts and will have no guarantees granted to them.

And for those that think that BB is not that significant in the equation for getting in, explain X or Butler as neither offers anywhere close to what UD does outside of
BB. Unfortunately the last 25 years of mediocrity is presenting us with a huge hurdle the C7 has to leap over and several aren't willing to degrade the brand to that degree.

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Was mentioned in the other thread, but our mediorce performance is not what they're attracted to. We're in the Top 25 every year in attendance - that's why they want us. You state it yourself - they're greedy. Butts in the seats bring $$.
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I somewhat agree with your premise but disagree in one important area. X and Butler have been the only constants in stories leaks etc in the past 6 months. Now that we are close to when details of decisions will be announced, the only for sure schools continue to be X and Butler. Only in UD land do people see us as such an attractive option.

The C7 is as greedy as BCS football and will only slice the pie more times if the pie becomes bigger. Any school they are sure will accomplish that will be invited. All the rest have warts and will have no guarantees granted to them.

And for those that think that BB is not that significant in the equation for getting in, explain X or Butler as neither offers anywhere close to what UD does outside of
BB. Unfortunately the last 25 years of mediocrity is presenting us with a huge hurdle the C7 has to leap over and several aren't willing to degrade the brand to that degree.

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I agree with Marysville Flyer. BB is the driving force behind this. Since none of these schools play football on the BCS level then BB will always drive the bus in the new Big East. UD the past 25 has been very mediocre. 1 NCAA win in the last 20 years is hurting us also. If UD doesn't join down the road then it will hurt the program big time. I think recruiting will not get any better and could actually get worse.
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Certainly not saying that basketball isn't important. It definitely is. However, there will be many factors taken into consideration (almost all of them relating to potential for profit) and the factors, including basketball, will be evaluated over a prolonged period. Whether we have a fabulous or mediocre season next year will matter next to none at all.
So you don't think that profits and season records are related?
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Let me clarify. I was responding to the assertion that how UD finished next season would be a determining factor in whether the New Big East admitted them.

My conclusion was simply that is is more than ludicrous to think that decisions of this magnitude would come down to that.

UD's basketball performance is a major consideration I am sure, but its our performance over many years and several seasons, in addition to many other factors (attendance avg., tv market, etc).
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Was mentioned in the other thread, but our mediorce performance is not what they're attracted to. We're in the Top 25 every year in attendance - that's why they want us. You state it yourself - they're greedy. Butts in the seats bring $$.
I'm asking because I really have no idea...

Do we have to share money with others based on our home attendance? I thought all the money being thrown around was TV money...not game attendance. If attendance is a factor, then UD and Creighton would be ahead of X, St.Louis and Butler...but we're not...so it's gotta be more about tv money...which is going to hurt us due to the small tv market in Dayton...right?
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I thought all the money being thrown around was TV money...not game attendance. If attendance is a factor, then UD and Creighton would be ahead of X, St.Louis and Butler...but we're not...so it's gotta be more about tv money...which is going to hurt us due to the small tv market in Dayton...right?
Regarding TV market, that has been discussed ad nauseam on this board. Many have said you can have a large TV market with not that many people watching (St Louis, Butler?) or a smaller market with a lot of people watching (Dayton).
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No $hit...

Which is why my question is about attendance sharing!
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If they go from 9 or 10 in 13/14 to 12 in 14/15, next season's record isn't going to matter 1 bit b/c the formal announcement/invite will occur prior to the start of the 13/14.
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This is a St. Louis columnist talking about the BE7 situation. SLU is in the same boat with us, sort of. He doesn't bring anything new in the way of facts, but his take on the situation is interesting, especially his comments on the geography involved with Creighton and the overall suitability of Richmond.

As an aside, many say this will be decided on the facts: school A brings in more than school B, ergo A wins out. I subscribe to that theory too, up to a point.

But now we see Creighton suddenly vaulting to the head of the line of the schools waiting for an invitation for no apparent reason, except that Marquette, which has close administrative ties to Creighton, is adamant that the Blue Jays be included. If Marquette gets its way, then SLU is also surely "in" as well because of the absolute need for a "bridge" school between the rest of the league and far-flung Omaha, Nebraska. And the Jesuits by the way have a grand slam.......two Jesuit schools added to the gravy train in one fell swoop. Pretty neat, Huh?

And if Marquette gets its way in the Creighton situation, won't powerful Georgetown, which is rumored to want a team in relative proximity to DC, use the same tactics to push either Richmond or VCU down everyone's throats?

Just sayin'. If we don't get it in writing quick a school from the middle of nowhere with a small tv Market, and a school with three thousand students and a weak presence in their own city, could end up eating our lunch.

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The odd seven,...

We talk about the C7....really, it's the C3 that call the shots: Villanova, Marquette and Georgetown.....maybe a little of SJU. Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul are along for the ride.

The C3 want a top-tier BB league.....PC, SH and DU contribute next to nothing,....SJU is unique, conributing NYC. Therefore the C3 want their additions to be top-tier...they don't need or want other PCs, SHUs or DUs.

Xavier and Butler fit the bill, top tier all the way. Dayton is another PC/SHU/DU-level program....big arena and rabid fan base or not. Sadly, our last decades of play have cemented our role. If you were one of the C3 would you believe a pitch from UD along the lines, "Add us and things will be different, we'll change". Yeah, right.

UD is attractive for many reasons, many. Unfortunately, we are not attractive for the reason the C3/C7 have said is most important to them...top-tier basketball.
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The DePaul AD made a remark suggesting consideration of the impact on "other conferences",...read, A10,...It's uncommon; but the seven schools are Catholic schools, FB is not involved,.....if they have selected four A10 schools, it's not unreasonable that they would consult with McGlade and agree to take two now and two a year later....giving the A10 time to adjust, add schools, deal with scheduling, etc.

What is unreasonable is that the C7 would select two schools now, X and BU,...plan to add two more in a year without yet knowing which two.

When the C7 make a formal announcement I expect them to make clear exactly what their plans are...and if I'm right about the A10 consideration, I think they will explain that as well.

They will not go with two now and two a year from now without explaining why,....in my opiniion.

These are Catholic schools.....some with priests as presidents....and FB is not involved. This is not the ACC. Is it unreasonable to think that they might actually be sensitive re the impact on the A10 and the schools in the A10, quite a few of which are Catholic schools?
I have been thinking along the same lines. It is reasonable to think they are highly sensitive.
Here's why I agree with you: The 'new Big East' could have 5 Jesuit universities (XU, SLU, CU, MU, GU) and the A10 would then still have two Jesuit schools (Fordham, St Jospeh). It's pretty well known that these Jesuit schools and presidents are very strongly connected. And so it's entirely possible that the bigger picture of how these basketball / $ decisions affect their brother Jesuits is a very, very strong factor. These priests more than just see each other at meetings. It's likely that have lived together, went to seminary together, gone on retreats together, and very well may retire together.
Bottom-line: The Jesuit presidents are responsible to their schools but also have longer life implications that presidents of state schools would never have to face.
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another bullet for thought, I've seen it mentioned several times that Marquette would like to retain its home & home w/ G'town & Nova. If the conference takes on Richmond, it sets up a pretty clear east/west split. While the conference isn't forced into an east/west split, its something people are going to question.

If they add UD, SLU & Creighton, along w/ XU & Butler, then there is no clear split, which means more of a round robin style system w/ Marquette playing G'town & Nova home & away each year, while a school like UD may play SJU & Seton Hall home & away (I'll assume the flyer alum presence in NYC would make that an attractive option for both of those schools as a regular home/away opponent)
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No $hit...

Which is why my question is about attendance sharing!
I was wondering the same thing. How do our home attendance numbers help the league financially? Isn't the only shared money tv revenue and tourney dollars? If so , we are hurting in both areas especially since they already gain most the dayton tv market with X
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So sorry, this is way off topic but can someone summarize the MK situation and where the reinstatement process is? If any? Does anyone know what truly happened? C7 is trending topic so i figured i could get an answer here.


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Originally Posted by rollo View Post
No $hit...

Which is why my question is about attendance sharing!
I don't understand your reaction (although that's nothing new). You said our small TV market would hurt us. I simply said you can have a small market with a lot of people watching, or a large market with not that many people watching, so our small market might not hurt us as much as some think. No need for the ridiculous reaction.
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