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Nice tidbit in Rothstein's quick story - says if Shaka says no, Texas is expected to turn their attention to Utah's Larry Krystokwiak or eggsavier's Mack.

No mention of Coach Miller.
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Definitely good for UD... The only job this offseason I fear
That we know about it. Wait until Calipari takes an NBA job, setting up a whole bunch more dominoes...
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Definitely good for UD, bad for the A10. There is always uncertainty and risk with coaching changes.

Not that it really matters, but I don't see any connection to the state of Texas for Smart.

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We'll see what happens. Still hard to say if Texas really wants Shaka or if it's all a game.

Gregg Marshall using Alabama to drive up his price for Texas
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Bucknell hc Dave Paulsen to George Mason.

He was in d3 for a while...7 years at Bucknell, 2 NCAA, 2 NIT.

Sort of has a Mike Lonergan feel to it.


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Definitely good for UD, bad for the A10. There is always uncertainty and risk with coaching changes.

Not that it really matters, but I don't see any connection to the state of Texas for Smart.
at VCU there is a line back to former VCU assistants (UT-C, Rice) or they could always turn to Grant. There is nothing like available at this point for UD.
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Paulsen and Lonergan's resumes are similar for sure. GW has been competing at a pretty high level though. For Mason, I think it's a good hire who will have them competitive in two years or so. Really couldn't ask for anything more than that.
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at VCU there is a line back to former VCU assistants (UT-C, Rice) or they could always turn to Grant. There is nothing like available at this point for UD.
I am pretty surprised that Grant's name hasn't really surfaced for jobs as of yet - would have guessed that maybe the George Masons, Fordhams, Bucknells, etc. would have been interested.
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Oklahoma State buying out Travis Ford? http://m.newsok.com/article/5405976
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Okie State kinda concerns me due to the money T-Boone has to throw around. Don't think Arch would be interested, but you never know...
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
Bucknell hc Dave Paulsen to George Mason.

He was in d3 for a while...7 years at Bucknell, 2 NCAA, 2 NIT.

Sort of has a Mike Lonergan feel to it.


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I follow Bucknell. Had a relative play bball there several years ago. This is a very good hire for Mason and the A-10.
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Okie State is the red-headed step child of Oklahoma sports be it BB or FB. They had a bit of a strangle hold on the college wrestling championship. (Although tOSU just won their first recently.) Okie St holds 16 NCAA championships since 1950. With 4 straight from 2003 to 2006.

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Okie State is the red-headed step child of Oklahoma sports be it BB or FB. They had a bit of a strangle hold on the college wrestling championship. (Although tOSU just won their first recently.) Okie St holds 16 NCAA championships since 1950. With 4 straight from 2003 to 2006.

Other than that it isn't a premier HC position for any sport.
I haven't looked at attendance figures or anything, but I thought with their fan base, cool historic arena, loud crowds and home court advantage, Oklahoma State was a better gig than Oklahoma for basketball. Also, the fact that T Boone will but you anything you want (jets, facilities, players probably) is something Oklahoma doesn't really have.
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Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN 19m19 minutes ago

Rick Barnes to Tennessee is done, sources told ESPN. News conference later today.
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Is anyone hearing anything new about Shaka Smart going to Texas??
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Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN 19m19 minutes ago

Rick Barnes to Tennessee is done, sources told ESPN. News conference later today.
Yes, this is official now, I am glad that this job is no longer a threat, I was worried about this one...I think this is a great hire by Tennessee.

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Is anyone hearing anything new about Shaka Smart going to Texas??
I saw they are talking about the TCU coach now
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Is anyone hearing anything new about Shaka Smart going to Texas??
Some reporting no "direct contact" has been made. Others close to UT say that is semantics, and communication is occurring but through search firms and intermediaries. So doesn't mean progress isn't being made.
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Oklahoma State buying out Travis Ford? http://m.newsok.com/article/5405976
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Clearly he has too much money...seems crazy to me, paying $9.6 million to dump a pretty successful coach, that's even worse than GT and Hewitt.

Ford has made the tournament 5 out of 7 years there too, 1 NIT, and 1 year of no postseason...he has trouble advancing though, similar to Barnes at Texas.
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What happens when Calipari leaves UK to go to the NBA???
Will Archie get talked to about the Kentucky Job??
Mrs. Miller was at their game earlier this year and will Calipari tell UK to take a good look at Archie...
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What happens when Calipari leaves UK to go to the NBA???
Will Archie get talked to about the Kentucky Job??
Mrs. Miller was at their game earlier this year and will Calipari tell UK to take a good look at Archie...
Maybe in another 5 years or so, and if Archie can maintain his success here at UD. Right now I doubt UK would look at such a young coach with limited experience. Not a knock on AM, just think UK will want a more experienced coach.

But then again, they did hire Billy Gillespie, so who knows.
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Maybe in another 5 years or so, and if Archie can maintain his success here at UD. Right now I doubt UK would look at such a young coach with limited experience. Not a knock on AM, just think UK will want a more experienced coach.

But then again, they did hire Billy Gillespie, so who knows.
The ghost of Billy Gillespie looms large over that program...
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What happens when Calipari leaves UK to go to the NBA???
Will Archie get talked to about the Kentucky Job??
Mrs. Miller was at their game earlier this year and will Calipari tell UK to take a good look at Archie...
Sean Miller will get the UK offer long before Archie.
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I really think Calipari is going to take an NBA gig after this year. The problem then may not so much the threat of Archie taking that job, but the backfill. Does Sean Miller want that job, opening up Arizona? Does Billy Donovan jump, with Florida opening up? Jay Wright at Villanova or Jamie Dixon at Pitt? Are reports of Thad Matta's deteriorating health overblown and does he want that job? Do any of the dominoes create a situation where Mark Gottfried tries to move from NC State? Calipari can make all hell break loose if he decides he wants to give the NBA another shot.
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Calipari will retire before he goes back to the NBA. He and Pitino have both said it is the worst move they ever made. Calipari has also said UK is his last coaching job. I don't believe much that coaches say, but this one I do.
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With all of the coaching names that come up to fill vacancies over the past couple of years, why don't we hear about any names from "Hamilton County"? Is the consensus that they are not interested in moving or are they just not good enough. The one from the NBE, as published elsewhere, has been getting his team into the dance, fairly often and fairly deep.
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Calipari will retire before he goes back to the NBA. He and Pitino have both said it is the worst move they ever made. Calipari has also said UK is his last coaching job. I don't believe much that coaches say, but this one I do.
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It was a bad coaching move, but I think Calipari thinks he is a better coach now than when he jumped years ago. A lot of folks have speculated based on some of his comments that his lack of success at the highest level eats at him to this day. So what I'm thinking is that especially if Kentucky can go undefeated and claim a national championship, I think he gives the NBA one more go.
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Calipari will leave Kentucky sooner or later. He has a habit of skipping town just before the infraction committee comes calling, which will affect the timing of his next move, but not its inevitability.
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Perhaps Calipari wants to stay one step ahead of the NCAA compliance posse? It wouldn't be the first time...
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Yes, this is official now, I am glad that this job is no longer a threat, I was worried about this one...I think this is a great hire by Tennessee.

Presser to introduce Barnes is scheduled for 4pm today.


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4th coach in 6 years at Tennessee - yikes! You'd have to look twice at it, wouldn't you? Course if you're being paid handsomely by your former program, too, what the heck!
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I think Calipari's move to the NBA will happen sooner than you might think. Here's 13 reasons it is likely to happen. Couple this with another 6-7 in this years draft, and suddenly it's get's in more compelling. It allows him to continue coaching the players he started to develop. In addition, in this era of Free Agents recruiting, one could easily see how some of these players could fit into his development plans as role players.

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4th coach in 6 years at Tennessee - yikes! You'd have to look twice at it, wouldn't you? Course if you're being paid handsomely by your former program, too, what the heck!
A younger up and coming coach would have to think twice but this should be Rick Barnes last coaching gig so there's not much risk at all for him. When you look at who has been run out of town, Bruce Pearl and Donnie Tyndall got caught cheating. My impression of Rick Barnes is that he's a good enough coach and recruiter that he doesn't have to cheat. And Cuonzo just wasn't respected by folks in Knoxville while Rick's personality and resume should be enough. So I'd be really surprised if Barnes has much trouble getting Tennessee back to respectability in pretty short order.
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Travis Ford is safe at Oklahoma State per the OSU AD. Sanity prevails, sheesh.

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224 - That's pretty cool. Did you create that with Photoshop or some other April Fools software???
A buddy of mine sent that to me this morning and I had a mini stroke for a few minutes before I figured it out
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Chris Mack has signed an extension at X.
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Sounds like Texas may be getting to close to finalizing a deal with Shaka.

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Chris Mack has signed an extension at X.
Through 2021;
interesting to note that the head basketball position at X is an endowed university position. Nice for the yearly basketball operating budget when probably the single largest component of that is coming from endowed funds.
That can't be all that common.
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Sounds like Texas may be getting to close to finalizing a deal with Shaka.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/201...127.1426529655
VCU fans kind of blowing this off but I don't know. I think it may be time for Shaka to hit the road. I know what he did to get them to a Final Four but I don't see anything since that has impressed me that he is an extraordinary coach. Great opportunity to upgrade and if it doesn't work out in a few years there will be other VCU-like opportunities.
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Through 2021;
interesting to note that the head basketball position at X is an endowed university position. Nice for the yearly basketball operating budget when probably the single largest component of that is coming from endowed funds.
That can't be all that common.
Given his (and wife's) home ties, I see Mack as a guy that stays with X for a long time. I don't think he is in a position to land a top 20 job now and would have to take another step first. Wouldn't think the jobs that would be available to him would be worth it unless he just wants a change.
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I think Mack could get a top 20 job in any given year if he wanted to leave. Not a top 10 job. But top 20 probably. You'd think he might have allegiance to where he went to school, but he has been surprisingly willing to look at other opportunities.
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I think Mack could get a top 20 job in any given year if he wanted to leave. Not a top 10 job. But top 20 probably. You'd think he might have allegiance to where he went to school, but he has been surprisingly willing to look at other opportunities.
My top 20 jobs - in no particular order.

Duke, NC, Syracuse, Virginia, ND, Louisville
Wisc, OH St, Indiana, Mich St, Mich, Maryland,
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Georgetown, Villanova
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I don't see Mack getting the call to fill one of these.

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Shaka, pretty impressive since the Final Four... NCAA each year...Won ATEN and beat Archie, both with key players out and hurt. Built a great brand...50 plus straight sellouts. Other than a Good job by Grant, he has really built this program into the National spotlight. Really remarkable. He and Archie really good. I hope Archie gets us to a Final Four and wins a ATEN Title. Archie in my opinion is the better bench coach, Shaka a better overall GM at this point. That's why Texas went to him first..Thank God!!!
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Archie in my opinion is the better bench coach, Shaka a better overall GM at this point.
Good way of putting it. The thing is, I think Texas had a good GM. I think they really need that bench coach.
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Some interesting comments last night at the arena. Hartsock made a point of telling the crowd that he had received several requests from media types from around the country looking for video on Archie concerning stories they were running on coaching vacancies. Hartsock told all of them that it would be a waste of time sending the video because there was no way Archie was leaving UD anytime soon. I specifically looked for Archie's reaction and he nodded in agreement. No way he leaves in the next 2-3 years. The gig here is too good.
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My top 20 jobs - in no particular order.

Duke, NC, Syracuse, Virginia, ND, Louisville
Wisc, OH St, Indiana, Mich St, Mich, Maryland,
Kentucky
Kansas, Texas
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Georgetown, Villanova
UConn

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I don't see Mack getting the call to fill one of these.

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Oregon, Tenn, Illinois, Gonzaga, Iowa, NC State, Marquette, etc.
I guess I would look at a lot of the current coaches who are in your top 20 spots, and if I looked at their resumes before taking those primo gigs, I have a hunch that Mack's resume would stack up pretty well with several of those.

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Shaka, pretty impressive since the Final Four... NCAA each year...Won ATEN and beat Archie, both with key players out and hurt. Built a great brand...50 plus straight sellouts. Other than a Good job by Grant, he has really built this program into the National spotlight. Really remarkable. He and Archie really good. I hope Archie gets us to a Final Four and wins a ATEN Title. Archie in my opinion is the better bench coach, Shaka a better overall GM at this point. That's why Texas went to him first..Thank God!!!
I think part of the appeal is Shaka's charisma and the style of play. Archie just wins basketball games. Which is the most important thing. But winning is part of the equation at Texas. They're trying to make non-basketball fans excited about basketball basically. Shaka can maybe do that. And he'll be good on the Longhorn Network. They can send cameras along to film the basic training thing he does with his guys every year and it'll be great television. Can't imagine Archie enjoying that aspect of the job, like I think Shaka might.
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#Texas #Longhorns close to finalizing a 5-year deal with #VCU's Shaka Smart, sources tell http://HornsDigest.com . http://texas.scout.com/story/1533588...on-smart?s=110
Not saying he isn't correct this time but this Chip Brown has been off the mark on a number of other major stories in the past.
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Not saying he isn't correct this time but this Chip Brown has been off the mark on a number of other major stories in the past.
Very true. His reporting that Texas A&M would not go to the SEC was especially comical. So much pressure to be first to report things these days, especially for a paid subscriber site like the one he contributes for, it wouldn't be all that surprising if he's running with some crap that someone made up. It is April Fool's Day, so not the best days to be trying to be first to report on a coaching search situation. So we shall see...

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Jeff Goodman's reporting it as well. There's too much talk for there to be nothing in process. This doesn't mean that he takes the job, but something's going on.
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Brian Wardle was hired away from Wisc-Green Bay, as the new head coach of Bradley.
Just wanted to point out that Brian Wardle's first meeting with his team apparently did not go very well. In addition to Josh Cunningham transferring (see the recruits/transfers thread), 5 others announced their intentions to leave the program today. Six players announcing they would transfer! Can you imagine? Feel bad for Bradley fans and Wardle.
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Shaka / UT deal supposed to be done tomorrow -

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Wow. It sounded like Marshall was a done deal to Alabama. Would Texas make a run at him in the absence of a deal with Smart? Has anyone heard anything regarding Anthony Grant?
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I still would be surprised it Smart takes the UT job. Each year more and more coaches are staying put and turning down "better" jobs.

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Wow. It sounded like Marshall was a done deal to Alabama. Would Texas make a run at him in the absence of a deal with Smart? Has anyone heard anything regarding Anthony Grant?
I think Shaka was/is Texas' first choice. Marshall is a heck of a coach but a lot of people can't stand him.

Will be real interesting to see if VCU would have interest in bringing Anthony Grant back.

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I still would be surprised it Smart takes the UT job. Each year more and more coaches are staying put and turning down "better" jobs.

When you are making 7 figures getting more money probably doesn't change any lifestyle decisions.
I will be surprised if he doesn't take the Texas gig. He has turned down other jobs, but I just think this is the one he wants. I think you are right however that money isn't going to be the driving factor in the decision.
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If Shaka does go to Texas and repeats there what he's done at VCU the past four seasons they'll eventually fire him but at least he'll be well off financially

I think Texas is currently more of a waiting train wreak than a top job and I'm not alone
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Shaka is well compensated at VCU to the tune of about $2M a year. The risk/reward trade off is not very favorable unless the Texas offer is significantly better than what Barnes was getting.
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"It ends ugly with Patterson. He gets you before you get him. That's the way he operates."

this is from the Oregon article where they remember his tenure with the Blazers ... not fondly.
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Shaka should think long and hard before going to work for Patterson.
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If Shaka does go to Texas and repeats there what he's done at VCU the past four seasons they'll eventually fire him but at least he'll be well off financially

To your point, the whole Barnes thing simply could not have been about wins/losses or he'd still be there.
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Just found this over at the VCU board. VCU Faithful are doing everything they can to keep Shaka! $17 million over 5 years!

http://www.vcuramnation.com/2015/04/...he-stu-530-pm/

Join us at 5:30 PM in the Siegel Center parking lot (nearest the ticket office) for a rally to show your support to Coach Smart.

Rumors indicate he is being offered a deal from Texas upwards of $17 million over 5 years. Texas Athletic Director Scott Patterson will be visiting Shaka in Richmond today, to make an offer, and hopes to take him to Austin tomorrow to close the deal.

We have a limited amount of time to show Coach Smart how much he means to the city of Richmond, and this is our chance to have an impact on his final decision.

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Just found this over at the VCU board. VCU Faithful are doing everything they can to keep Skaka! $17 million over 5 years!

http://www.vcuramnation.com/2015/04/...he-stu-530-pm/

Join us at 5:30 PM in the Siegel Center parking lot (nearest the ticket office) for a rally to show your support to Coach Smart.

Rumors indicate he is being offered a deal from Texas upwards of $17 million over 5 years. Texas Athletic Director Scott Patterson will be visiting Shaka in Richmond today, to make an offer, and hopes to take him to Austin tomorrow to close the deal.

We have a limited amount of time to show Coach Smart how much he means to the city of Richmond, and this is our chance to have an impact on his final decision.
Their message board has 181 (and counting ) pages on "Shaka Watch" I can only imagine what things would be like here if it was Archie and not Shaka that was being talked about.
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Just heard a rumor on ESPN radio that Billy Donovan at Florida is seriously thinking about moving to the NBA! What kind of dominoes falling does that create??


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Think they'll go after Archie?
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wow, dude had done very well in his first season. Wonder what exactly happened in that bar.
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wow, dude had done very well in his first season. Wonder what exactly happened in that bar.
Not sure, I heard a rumor about a cell phone video. BG fans were worried that if Marshall left Wichita that they might come after Jans so this really came as a surprise.
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To your point, the whole Barnes thing simply could not have been about wins/losses or he'd still be there.
I'm sure it's about lack of final fours
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I heard they have video of him visiting Memories Pizza.
Or worse yet, trying to hit on Ann C.

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Just heard a rumor on ESPN radio that Billy Donovan at Florida is seriously thinking about moving to the NBA! What kind of dominoes falling does that create??


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Well, he's making NBA like cash now...

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wow, dude had done very well in his first season. Wonder what exactly happened in that bar.
For conduct that was supposedly done in public, I'm sure as he!! having a hard time finding any dirt about it!
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Interesting Read:
What is Shaka Smart still doing at Virginia Commonwealth? Why does the coach who led a mid-major to the Final Four four years ago spurn UCLA and Marquette and Wake Forest and anyone else who asks? Start at Kenyon College, and then look here: The VCU media guide includes each player's parents in his profile. For five of them there is a mother or grandmother listed, and no father. Smart will not make his players feel the way Bill Brown made him feel.

"That experience had an influence in my life in general," Smart said. "That was one of the worst days in my life, to be honest with you. It really shook me up."

http://www.newsleader.com/story/spor...-vcu/24999267/

On the other hand his buyout seems low - I think it should be at least 1 years salary and a significant fee if they refuse the home-home series
he has a $500k buyout if he leaves VCU before May 1 and Texas would also owe the school $250k if it doesn't schedule a home-and-home series against the Rams after hiring Smart.

http://www.burntorangenation.com/201...teve-patterson

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For conduct that was supposedly done in public, I'm sure as he!! having a hard time finding any dirt about it!
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usually a team meeting isn't good news for them, but whatever the reason it appears he's reconsidering:

UPDATE, 7:34 p.m.: Shaka Smart has scheduled a meeting with his VCU team for 8 p.m. tonight, a source confirmed

UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: Shaka Smart's meeting with the team has been delayed. No word of when it will start.

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It sounds like Shaka may be humming "Deep in the Heart of Texas." Not good for the A-10 if he goes.

Reminds me of a joke I heard, possibly on Pride, maybe even in this thread. But it's so good it has to be retold. Shaka is negotiating with the Texas AD, and the guy throws a million dollars down right on the table.

"Heck, I already make that much at VCU," Shaka says.

"A game?" the Texas AD says.
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another opinion:
It's silly for someone to choose to coach basketball at Alabama instead of Wichita State. Nothing personal against Bama. It could be Arizona State. Or Oklahoma State. Or Penn State. Or Florida State. Or any major-conference school with a focus on football.

A basketball job at an established mid-major is a better situation for most coaches than a job at a major football school. Butler. Gonzaga. Wichita State. Dayton. Virginia Commonwealth. Creighton. Schools like that.

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Shaka meeting with the players has ended. None will comment.

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Last VCU players are leaving now. Visibly distraught.
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Done. Rothstein, Parrish, Goodman all confirm Shaka to Texas.
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ESPN just confirmed it @ 11:11 PM. Texas's favorite TV show just became "Get Smart". Hope VCU can get an able replacement. And wouldn't it be weird if it was Anthony Grant?
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Plus, the report says Texas owes either one home-and-home series to VCU, or $250,000. Gee, what do you think they "net" from 1 home game? Bet it's more than $250K.
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A basketball job at an established mid-major is a better situation for most coaches than a job at a major football school. Butler. Gonzaga. Wichita State. Dayton. Virginia Commonwealth. Creighton. Schools like that.

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VCU is fortunate at least to have had some assistants under Shaka that are doing very well at other schools now. Will Wade at UT-Chattanooga and Mike Rhoades at Rice. Either would jump at that gig. So they can hire an assistant who has relationships with current players, who has recently gained head coaching experience. Not a terrible situation to be in, though obviously losing Shaka sucks.
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I'm not sure if the BG coach should have been fired.

This letter contains all the details of what happened:

http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/wtol/pdf/JansLetter.pdf


http://hoopdirt.com/blog/2c20359b/ch...f-termination/


Yes, his behavior was inappropriate, but the first woman was probably a friend, people do joking stuff like that with friends, and the second woman in the video didn't appear to be offended by him touching her rear end. Calling the other woman a name was wrong.

I think I would have given him a firm warning. But, maybe this wasn't the first incident.

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I'm not sure if the BG coach should have been fired.

This letter contains all the details of what happened:

http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/wtol/pdf/JansLetter.pdf


http://hoopdirt.com/blog/2c20359b/ch...f-termination/


Yes, his behavior was inappropriate, but the first woman was probably a friend, people do joking stuff like that with friends, and the second woman in the video didn't appear to be offended by him touching her rear end. Calling the other woman a name was wrong.

I think I would have given him a firm warning. But, maybe this wasn't the first incident.
My bet is that your last sentence covers it.
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I'm not sure if the BG coach should have been fired.

This letter contains all the details of what happened:

http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/wtol/pdf/JansLetter.pdf


http://hoopdirt.com/blog/2c20359b/ch...f-termination/


Yes, his behavior was inappropriate, but the first woman was probably a friend, people do joking stuff like that with friends, and the second woman in the video didn't appear to be offended by him touching her rear end. Calling the other woman a name was wrong.

I think I would have given him a firm warning. But, maybe this wasn't the first incident.

I too am a bit surprised, if this is all that was done that he was fired.

Granted, none of them (that I know of) were coaches at NCAA basketball programs, but I witnessed much worse behavior than this by many men AND women in the crowd at a local catholic high schools festivals beer tent last fall.
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Yes, his behavior was inappropriate, but the first woman was probably a friend, people do joking stuff like that with friends, and the second woman in the video didn't appear to be offended by him touching her rear end. Calling the other woman a name was wrong.

I think I would have given him a firm warning. But, maybe this wasn't the first incident.
After Larry Eustachy, any coach (especially one who is married and with kids) who goes out and gets drunk, acts 'inappropriately' with other women, and gets caught on video shouldn't be surprised if they get fired!
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Hoopdirt is reporting that the Alabama AD is meeting with ex-NBA player and coach Avery Johnson, interesting name there. They struck out with Gregg Marshall and Richard Pitino.
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After Larry Eustachy, any coach (especially one who is married and with kids) who goes out and gets drunk, acts 'inappropriately' with other women, and gets caught on video shouldn't be surprised if they get fired!
If the coach is from the P5, the new and improved NCAA will give him the "mentor of the year award" for making such a big sacrifice to teach the kids what not to do.
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I'm not sure if the BG coach should have been fired.

This letter contains all the details of what happened:

http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/wtol/pdf/JansLetter.pdf


http://hoopdirt.com/blog/2c20359b/ch...f-termination/


Yes, his behavior was inappropriate, but the first woman was probably a friend, people do joking stuff like that with friends, and the second woman in the video didn't appear to be offended by him touching her rear end. Calling the other woman a name was wrong.

I think I would have given him a firm warning. But, maybe this wasn't the first incident.
Some people just don't get that they represent the university both on and off the court and every public action is subject to scrutiny and consequence.

My bet is the BGSU President and AD asked themselves whether he should be the face of BGSU basketball, especially against the backdrop of increased emphasis on eliminating campus sexual assault, and the answer was no.
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
I'm not sure if the BG coach should have been fired.

This letter contains all the details of what happened:

http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/wtol/pdf/JansLetter.pdf


http://hoopdirt.com/blog/2c20359b/ch...f-termination/


Yes, his behavior was inappropriate, but the first woman was probably a friend, people do joking stuff like that with friends, and the second woman in the video didn't appear to be offended by him touching her rear end. Calling the other woman a name was wrong.

I think I would have given him a firm warning. But, maybe this wasn't the first incident.
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My bet is that your last sentence covers it.
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I too am a bit surprised, if this is all that was done that he was fired.

Granted, none of them (that I know of) were coaches at NCAA basketball programs, but I witnessed much worse behavior than this by many men AND women in the crowd at a local catholic high schools festivals beer tent last fall.
BGSU has had some issues with some coaches in the past. They had a football coach that let players get in trouble off the field and did little to stop them or punish them. While they have not had any issues lately that I have heard of, they may have wanted to stop the problem before it got to that level. Granted this was for issues that are totally different than what Coach Jans did, but with how sensitive society is today this is probably the right move.
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Avery Johnson is getting the Alabama gig
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