NIT teams

[SeasonTicketFan]

Ok. No one cares about the NIT, but I thought it was interesting to note the teams behind UD playing in the NIT

From A10
Richmond, Loyola and St. Joe


USF with Mike plays at Cincinnati
North Texas with Moo plays LSU
X plays at Georgia
Ohio State hosts Cornell
SMU plays at Indiana State

St. John’s not playing.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CT Flyer]

VCU from the A10 also.

[T-Bone 84]

Did VCU not get invited, or did they say, “Thanks, but no thanks.”? Same with UMass?

Edit: Thanks for the clarification, CT Flyer.
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	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[CT Flyer]

It appears these teams at least declined:
Oklahoma
St. John's
Pitt
Memphis
Ole Miss
Washington
Indiana

Not sure about UMass. Seems like the NIT could become a thing of the past for P5 teams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Bill McPeek]

English of Providence and Pitino at St. Johns are not happy campers. And you can add Halloway from Seton Hall to the list.

[UD62]

Looks like Butler could play all their games at home. All the A-10 teams are on the road for game one.

[UD62]

Originally Posted by Bill McPeek English of Providence and Pitino at St. Johns are not happy campers.

Believe they have a point with UVA.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Pitino said that they’re going to get to work on next season. Wouldn’t playing in another tournament help toward that end? I understand if there are financial considerations that are adverse to a school. I just don’t understand turning down the chance to play.
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[CoffeeCan]

It's a players league now with NIL. The players want to play in the NCAA, not the NIT. Simple as that.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Players are still players. Look at the professional athletes that play for their national teams. Extremely well paid athletes risk a tremendous amount while just wanting to play. I think coaches push their own agendas.
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[ud2]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer Pitino said that they’re going to get to work on next season. Wouldn’t playing in another tournament help toward that end? I understand if there are financial considerations that are adverse to a school. I just don’t understand turning down the chance to play. Posted via Mobile Device

I guess they are worried about injuries and the transfer portal.

I don't know what the portal open and close dates are, but I'd like to see the portal not open until after the ncaat is over. This is so stupid skipping the NIT IMO.

The stupid portal is now more important than playing actual games.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

I didn’t even think about the portal. It looks like it opens today. That could give coaches who aren’t in the postseason a huge advantage. Why can’t they just move it back 22 days?
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[Ready Action]

2024 College Basketball Transfer Portal

https://247sports.com/season/2024-ba...ransferportal/


Hmmmm https://247sports.com/Player/George-...-III-46114393/

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer I didn’t even think about the portal. It looks like it opens today. That could give coaches who aren’t in the postseason a huge advantage. Why can’t they just move it back 22 days? Posted via Mobile Device

I agree, now not only does the coaching staff have to worry about, you know, prepping for ACTUAL NCAAT GAMES, they also have to worry about a chunk of their roster transferring out right after they lose or even before they lose.

It's almost a disadvantage to be in the ncaat because you aren't totally on top of everything happening in the portal.

NFL free agency doesn't start until well after the playoffs are over, the portal needs to not open until after the ncaat is over.

[Medford]

I was wondering this as well a few days ago. Why in the heck is this not pushed back to the after the entire season is completed for everyone.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Medford I was wondering this as well a few days ago. Why in the heck is this not pushed back to the after the entire season is completed for everyone.

Because college basketball is run by a bunch of idiots?

[Medford]

Originally Posted by longtimefan Because THE NCAA is run by a bunch of idiots?

Fixed that for you


Football is equally bad, there were kids in the portal and signed well before the national championship game.
Kyle McCord had left Ohio State for the portal before they even played their bowl game on Dec 30. At least in that case, some schools are starting school before the national championship takes place, but in either case its a disservice to both the teams still playing their respective sports as well as any kids on those teams that might be thinking of entering the portal for whatever reason and have to choose between chasing a championship or bowl game, or whatever with their current team and finding a situation that fits their future better.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by UD62 Looks like Butler could play all their games at home. All the A-10 teams are on the road for game one.

Indiana St is a one seed, so if they win, the game is in Terre Haute.

[UD62]

Originally Posted by jack72 Indiana St is a one seed, so if they win, the game is in Terre Haute.

Agree, I said could. They also could go to Bradley or UC.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Medford I was wondering this as well a few days ago. Why in the heck is this not pushed back to the after the entire season is completed for everyone.

Same reason football doesn't wait till after bowl games?

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer It appears these teams at least declined: Oklahoma St. John's Pitt Memphis Ole Miss Washington Indiana Not sure about UMass. Seems like the NIT could become a thing of the past for P5 teams.

It should become a thing of the past. It is just like meaningless bowl games (all of them but the playoff). "Hey guys come play some exhibition games, risk injury, miss school, etc... to make the NCAA more money!" If teams want to play in the NIT fine but this judgment that gets passed is crazy, I think eventually the NCAA tournament will go away too unless the NCAA figures out what revenue sharing is. I am not saying this because I think there should be revenue sharing but somebody is going to do it if the NCAA doesn't.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by ud2 I guess they are worried about injuries and the transfer portal. I don't know what the portal open and close dates are, but I'd like to see the portal not open until after the ncaat is over. This is so stupid skipping the NIT IMO. The stupid portal is now more important than playing actual games.

They aren't actual games, they are exhibition games that mean absolutely nothing.

[Glen Clark]

You guys realize sports is entertainment, right?
In the end, none of it means anything.

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

[Kool-ade Flyer]

The biggest argument to attend NIT ( like bowl games) is you can keep practicing, keep working with players, etc. Those not playing immediately enter off-season protocol. Also the possibility of being one of a handful of teams that can say our last game was a win.
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[N2663R]

Does anyone know what the current money payout is for NIT. Is there anything beyond just compensating the teams for their expenses???

[ud2]

Originally Posted by N2663R Does anyone know what the current money payout is for NIT. Is there anything beyond just compensating the teams for their expenses???

Several informative links below...the first one, cougarboard.com, was very detailed but had old info from 2016, but I am guessing that the setup is still basically the same.

The cougarboard.com link covered many details in terms of revenue and expenses, what the schools are required to pay for, which expenses the NCAA pays, etc.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nit+money+payout

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...LjuXjUuUTGHru3

[Chris R]

The NIT became less of a meritocracy when they carved out guaranteed invitations based on conference affiliation. Takes the spirit of fair play, competition, and sportsmanship out of the tournament and turns it into an oligarch of inner-circled aristocrats that believe they were born into nobility and deserve special consideration because of their surnames.

Its a farce. Especially when these same teams end up turning down bids anyway. Even the preferential treatment can't appease them. I was okay with the regular season conference champion always having a spot because it was a universal consideration to all leagues. What the NIT has done since then is tarnish their own brand by thinking fans want to see brands rather than great basketball. The biggest brands usually don't even want to be associated with the NIT.

Its like two opposing sides not being in love yet insisting they keep dating twice a week. I dont get it.

[springborofan]

The tournament needs to go to 80 teams and the NIT needs to go away.

[The Gem]

The NIT, the Humanitarian Bowl of basketball. It is a waste of time, and nobody should play in it. It's past time to dissolve it and have the NCAA absorb some of the teams that would have gone to it in the past.

[CoffeeCan]

If the NIT falls and there is nobody there to hear it, does it make a sound?

[John C.]

I kind of like the NIT. Still good basketball just not the big names.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by John C. I kind of like the NIT. Still good basketball just not the big names.

Then you'll love Devin Carter from PC, Big East Player of the Year.

And I agree. I still watch it every year. But I do wonder if it is just better to add more teams to the NCAA tourney and do away with the NIT.

[Medford]

I'm surprised they haven't added a 2nd set of "first four" games somewhere out west to get 8 more teams into the dance. All the 16s and 15s would play each other for the right to face the 1 seeds then 8 at large teams would square off to become the foes for the 5 or 6 seeds.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by springborofan The tournament needs to go to 80 teams and the NIT needs to go away.

I know I am probably in the minority but I don't really think the tourney needs to expand. I get that it is a nice story that every conference champ gets a bid but the result has been to leave out better at large teams. I get that a 16 has finally beaten a 1 and there are upsets every year but I guess the question is, do we have a tourney for upsets, or do we have a tourney to have the best 64 (yeah contraction I said it), teams in the country battle it out for a national championship? I mean is the tournament this year better with Longwood or St. John's? I am not saying Longwood took St. John's' bid, just using two teams we played as an example.

The bigger and more all-inclusive they try to make it, the more likely someone comes along and says, "if you want to play in a real tournament, we want the best 32 teams, you get paid for every round you advance and the players on the winning team split a $5 million purse with maybe $2m to the losing team, etc... If that happens and you don't think teams would bolt the NCAA tourney, I have a controlling interest in the A10 to sell you.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by Medford I'm surprised they haven't added a 2nd set of "first four" games somewhere out west to get 8 more teams into the dance. All the 16s and 15s would play each other for the right to face the 1 seeds then 8 at large teams would square off to become the foes for the 5 or 6 seeds.

I also want to go on record with my thoughts on the first 4. It is a play in game. In my opinion you are not in the dance until you leave UD Arena with a win. I know what the official NCAA line is but it is BS. If you have to play another 12 seed to see who plays the 5 seed, you are not in the tourney until you win.

[Medford]

You are welcome to your opinion, but every time they talk about Coach Izzo's NCAA streak, they never once put an asterisk next to it and say "well except for that first four game they lost in 2021". Of course nobody made it out of Dayton that year, stupid covid, but I'm sure Izzo's incentive package in his contract for making the dance kicked in w/ that first four as well.


Short of a major breakoff from the NCAA by the power players, they won't go backwards, they will only expand the number of teams to increase the TV package

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by Medford You are welcome to your opinion, but every time they talk about Coach Izzo's NCAA streak, they never once put an asterisk next to it and say "well except for that first four game they lost in 2021". Of course nobody made it out of Dayton that year, stupid covid, but I'm sure Izzo's incentive package in his contract for making the dance kicked in w/ that first four as well. Short of a major breakoff from the NCAA by the power players, they won't go backwards, they will only expand the number of teams to increase the TV package

I fully acknowledge that my opinion is not the official rule. I also fully acknowledge(d) that I am in the minority. It is a tournament game in the same sense that the trophy every member of my nephew's soccer team got at the end of a 3-12 season, is a trophy. It is, but it shouldn't be, in my opinion. The TV package is great, if you are the NCAA. Look what happened to golf, for years the players have been saying, "we should get more of the revenue" the PGA drug its feet thinking "we're the only game in town" and then they found out they weren't and their assumption that the best players in the world cared more about prestige and tradition than money (or fairness, depending on your take), was dead wrong.

We'll see what happens with the tourney. I can't imagine there isn't some enterprising millionaire or billionaire out there, (perhaps a former NBA player), who can't see that the current model where the NCAA gets most of the revenue is ripe for disruption. Revenue sharing is coming whether people want it to or not.

[Medford]

I agree that Revenue sharing is coming, which would cause them to want to expand the poll rather than shrink it to increase the overall pie.


As far as participation trophies, there are now 362 d1 teams. If they expanded the tournament to 80 teams, that would be 22% of d1.


In the NFL, 43.75% of the league makes the post season.
In the MLB, 40% of the league makes the post season.
in the NBA, 66% of the league makes the postseason.


in the soon to be expanded college football postseason, 10.44% of D1 will make their tournament and roughly half of d1 will make some sort of post season game (ie bowl game)


I get that college and pro are different animals and the bottom of college is much different than the top of college sports, but I don't think anyone would think less of the tournament if it expanded to 80 teams. More basketball is always a good thing.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by Medford I agree that Revenue sharing is coming, which would cause them to want to expand the poll rather than shrink it to increase the overall pie. As far as participation trophies, there are now 362 d1 teams. If they expanded the tournament to 80 teams, that would be 22% of d1. In the NFL, 43.75% of the league makes the post season. In the MLB, 40% of the league makes the post season. in the NBA, 66% of the league makes the postseason. in the soon to be expanded college football postseason, 10.44% of D1 will make their tournament and roughly half of d1 will make some sort of post season game (ie bowl game) I get that college and pro are different animals and the bottom of college is much different than the top of college sports, but I don't think anyone would think less of the tournament if it expanded to 80 teams. More basketball is always a good thing.

Point is well taken, but I don't think you can compare percentages in a league with 10 times the number of teams as the pros have. The revenue sharing issue isn't with the size of the tourney, it is with the NCAA not wanting to share the money. There is plenty of revenue, it is the sharing where the problems lie. What I am saying is that someone has to be out there thinking OK, if I can get $X from TV for this thing, and I don't have to support a bloated bureaucracy of sports administrators and pay conferences, etc...I can actually give a lot of the money to the players and still make a mint.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by Medford I agree that Revenue sharing is coming, which would cause them to want to expand the poll rather than shrink it to increase the overall pie. As far as participation trophies, there are now 362 d1 teams. If they expanded the tournament to 80 teams, that would be 22% of d1. In the NFL, 43.75% of the league makes the post season. In the MLB, 40% of the league makes the post season. in the NBA, 66% of the league makes the postseason. in the soon to be expanded college football postseason, 10.44% of D1 will make their tournament and roughly half of d1 will make some sort of post season game (ie bowl game) I get that college and pro are different animals and the bottom of college is much different than the top of college sports, but I don't think anyone would think less of the tournament if it expanded to 80 teams. More basketball is always a good thing.

The thing about going to 80 teams that excites me is the drive to be in the top 48 to get a bye. The difference between 48 and 49 would become exciting. 12 seeds would become more relevant. I think it would be fun.
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[SeasonTicketFan]

There are more than a few good teams in the NIT. I don't think the games are exhibition games. Each game I have seen in the NIT, the teams have played hard.

The quality of every NIT team is better than every 16 seed in the NCAA. *
If you enjoy watching basketball, then the NIT games can be very enjoyable.

I enjoy watching competitive basketball. NIT games have a higher level of play than some of the buy games at UD arena.

I've gone to D2, D3 and above high school games. Are they the same caliber as D1 teams? Most of the time no, but it is basketball and entertaining.

[jack72]

X loses to Georgia. OSU loses to an Ivy League school. How embarrassing.
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[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by jack72 X loses to Georgia. OSU loses to an Ivy League school. How embarrassing. Posted via Mobile Device

What?

OSU wins

[The Fly]

Originally Posted by jack72 X loses to Georgia. OSU loses to an Ivy League school. How embarrassing. Posted via Mobile Device

Well, you’re half right. X lost; OSU not so much.

[cj]

Jack drinking too much Jack.
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[UD62]

BE is 0for2 so far.

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by The Fly Well, you’re half right. X lost; OSU not so much.

Xavier should have acted like they were too good for the NIT and refused. 16-18 is not a good look for them.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by cj Jack drinking too much Jack. Posted via Mobile Device

Should have stuck to 3/2 beer!
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[The Fly]

Originally Posted by UD62 BE is 0for2 so far.

Yeah, so much for the BE getting screwed by the NCAA Selection Committee. Hoping St. Joe’s pulls off another win tomorrow and eliminates Villanova. Butler in a close game with Minnesota.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by UD62 Looks like Butler could play all their games at home. All the A-10 teams are on the road for game one.

You were right, Butler played all of their games at home.

[Fudd]

Big East outrage over the NCAA Tournament selections has abruptly ended with an 0-3 showing in the NIT. Quietly exit, stage right....

[UD62]

Ricky boy and Seton Hall did have a point with UVA making the Dance. UVaA was awful in Dayton. Colorado State showed they were Dance quality, and Colorado still has to play

[Bill McPeek]

Originally Posted by The Fly Yeah, so much for the BE getting screwed by the NCAA Selection Committee. Hoping St. Joe’s pulls off another win tomorrow and eliminates Villanova. Butler in a close game with Minnesota.

St. Joes plays Seton Hall. Game will played at the Hall's on campus gym; Walsh Auditorium. Seats about 2,500. The Hall didn't want to spend the money to rent the Prudential Center.

[ud2]

I guess the last 5? minutes of Xavier's NIT loss were wild...Sean Miller got a bench? technical foul for stepping just over the coach's box line?...a very, very long review of a goal-tending call with 2? seconds left...and then another controversial call 2 seconds later at the end of the game whereby the refs jogged off the court instead of reviewing the play, apparently the refs were supposed to review the play.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[N2663R]

Originally Posted by Fudd Xavier should have acted like they were too good for the NIT and refused. 16-18 is not a good look for them.

Originally Posted by ud2 I guess the last 5? minutes of Xavier's NIT loss were wild...Sean Miller got a bench? technical foul for stepping just over the coach's box line?...a very, very long review of a goal-tending call with 2? seconds left...and then another controversial call 2 seconds later at the end of the game whereby the refs jogged off the court instead of reviewing the play, apparently the refs were supposed to review the play.

Why am I smiling . . . .

[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by ud2 I guess the last 5? minutes of Xavier's NIT loss were wild...Sean Miller got a bench? technical foul for stepping just over the coach's box line?...a very, very long review of a goal-tending call with 2? seconds left...and then another controversial call 2 seconds later at the end of the game whereby the refs jogged off the court instead of reviewing the play, apparently the refs were supposed to review the play.

I have not really paid much attention to Xavier this year, but didnt they have a ton of injuries? Either way it's never a bad thing when they struggle

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[UD62]

Originally Posted by ud2 I guess the last 5? minutes of Xavier's NIT loss were wild...Sean Miller got a bench? technical foul for stepping just over the coach's box line?...a very, very long review of a goal-tending call with 2? seconds left...and then another controversial call 2 seconds later at the end of the game whereby the refs jogged off the court instead of reviewing the play, apparently the refs were supposed to review the play.

I'll give X some credit, came from 23 down to make a game of it. The long pause was for the goaltending call that was rightly reversed, TV showed a clear block before the ball hit the backboard. Didn't see anything to review at the end of the game, but I could have missed something. It was a very entertaining last 5 minutes, especially the last 30 seconds.

[ud2]

With Xavier's game last night, due to the very short turnaround of the NIT teams not being announced until late Sunday night, and then the NIT game being in Athens, Georgia last night, the team had to fly from Cincinnati to Atlanta and then take a bus from Atlanta to Athens. That bus ride is normally a 1.5 hour drive.

But, I guess the traffic from Atlanta to Athens was pretty bad, so the drive took longer than normal, so the team only arrived at the arena 1 hour and 15 minutes before tipoff, so they had to get ready to play quicker than normal.

I have been to Athens once, that is a small, classic college town out in the country/a pretty rural area, so some of those roads are only two lane roads, so the traffic can get backed up.

I imagine the traffic around Atlanta is bad too.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Medford]

Is Traffic ever "not bad" around Atlanta?

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by Medford Is Traffic ever "not bad" around Atlanta?

830 AM on a Sunday morning in late February, 72 mph all the way straight through southbound.

Two weeks later on a Sunday at 6 pm northbound I had to slow down to 52 mph at one point, the rest was petal to the metal.

No I do not believe what I just typed either, but it is true. Just don't tell anyone else our secret on when to hit they city I have despised driving in or through for years.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Medford Is Traffic ever "not bad" around Atlanta?

Ask Pascual Perez.
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[springborofan]

Originally Posted by ud2 I guess the last 5? minutes of Xavier's NIT loss were wild...Sean Miller got a bench? technical foul for stepping just over the coach's box line?...a very, very long review of a goal-tending call with 2? seconds left...and then another controversial call 2 seconds later at the end of the game whereby the refs jogged off the court instead of reviewing the play, apparently the refs were supposed to review the play.

I watched the end of the game. There was nothing to review on the last play. Whether the X player was fouled or not is not reviewable. X fans just whining because the call didn’t go their way.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by springborofan I watched the end of the game. There was nothing to review on the last play. Whether the X player was fouled or not is not reviewable. X fans just whining because the call didn’t go their way.

I got the feeling that X thought the clock started early and they wanted it reviewed. Not sure if that is reviewable and what could have been done in that situation even if it did.

[CT Flyer]

Anyone know why Greer is not playing tonight for St. Joe's?

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer I got the feeling that X thought the clock started early and they wanted it reviewed. Not sure if that is reviewable and what could have been done in that situation even if it did.

The more important question is how are the drinking fountains?
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[Marysville Flyer]

What an embarrassment that small HS gym Seton Hall has is.
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[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer What an embarrassment that small HS gym Seton Hall has is. Posted via Mobile Device

Yea, they should join the A-10

[UD62]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer What an embarrassment that small HS gym Seton Hall has is. Posted via Mobile Device

For financial reasons, they elected not to rent the large facility they usually use,due to expected low fan turnout.Their on campus facility holds about 3400 or so.

[Bill McPeek]

Originally Posted by UD62 For financial reasons, they elected not to rent the large facility they usually use,due to expected low fan turnout.Their on campus facility holds about 3400 or so.

Walsh Gymnasium on campus Seton Hall facility:

https://shupirates.com/facilities/walsh-gymnasium/1

They normally play at the Prudential Center (AKA "The Rock") in Newark. They didn't want to spend the money to rent the Rock.

[CT Flyer]

It was really a pretty good game and the atmosphere in the on campus gym looked great.

[Bill McPeek]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Anyone know why Greer is not playing tonight for St. Joe's?

Injured

[Bill McPeek]

I see that Nova is playing VCU at it's on campus gym.

https://villanova.com/sports/2018/10...neran-pavilion

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Bill McPeek I see that Nova is playing VCU at it's on campus gym. https://villanova.com/sports/2018/10...neran-pavilion

I think they play there a few times during the OOC. The Flyers played them there in the early 2000's.

[Bill McPeek]

I'm sure they do just as St. John's plays some games at their on-campus site, Carneseca Arena.
I'm pretty sure that the BE has a minimum seating capacity for all BE games. I don't know what the number is.

[maddog07]

All the a10 teams played away and so far no wins. VCU is the final opportunity for a win.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan Yea, they should join the A-10

Or the GWOC.
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[frisco flyer]

VCU gets the win.
All Big East teams eliminated in the first round of the NIT.

[Viperstick]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer VCU gets the win. All Big East teams eliminated in the first round of the NIT.

Bwahaaahaaa!!!!!

[Chris R]

Nova plays a majority of their games in their on campus facility. Jay Wright preferred it because of the more intimate home court advantage. It was renovated not long ago and is pretty nice. Not huge but a nice facility.

[John C.]

Seton Hall won in overtime over St.Joes. Lone Big East win.

[jack72]

Indiana St shows they are pretty good as they come back and score over 100 to beat a decent SMU team. No D in that game.

[Fudd]

Some Big East fans are now claiming that the NIT failures are not related to the power of their conference, and in no way are related to their legitimate gripes over NCAA tournament selection.

The top of the BE was very good this year. But let's not get carried away with the middle of that league.

[maddog07]

Originally Posted by Fudd Some Big East fans are now claiming that the NIT failures are not related to the power of their conference, and in no way are related to their legitimate gripes over NCAA tournament selection. The top of the BE was very good this year. But let's not get carried away with the middle of that league.

What then does the NIT say about the a10?
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[jack72]

Originally Posted by maddog07 What then does the NIT say about the a10? Posted via Mobile Device

I guess it says this year the BE and A10 are about equal
Posted via Mobile Device

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Originally Posted by maddog07 What then does the NIT say about the a10? Posted via Mobile Device

It says that on their home court, the BE school that finished 4th squeaked by the A10 team that finished 9th.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan It says that on their home court, the BE school that finished 4th squeaked by the A10 team that finished 9th.

In overtime

[UD62]

VCU still chugging along. Utah up next

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

VCU plays #2 Utah tonight at 9PM ESPN2

[NorthwestFlyer]

I thought this was interesting. Not sure if UMASS said no, but the AD has resigned at St. Bonny after declining the NIT invite without talking to the Coach or Team about it.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ing-nit-invite

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

I read another article where the StB AD said he didn't have a good read on the fans and alumni and didn't realize they would care about the NIT.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by NorthwestFlyer I thought this was interesting. Not sure if UMASS said no, but the AD has resigned at St. Bonny after declining the NIT invite without talking to the Coach or Team about it. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ing-nit-invite

This is really, really bizarre.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Flyer 86]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Anyone know why Greer is not playing tonight for St. Joe's?

He also Went A Portaling a few days later

[John C.]

Miller is finding it harder to win when everyone can pay their players and not just him.

[N2663R]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan I read another article where the StB AD said he didn't have a good read on the fans and alumni and didn't realize they would care about the NIT.

Another reason to leave the A10. They can't even attract quality AD's!

[blade62445]

Originally Posted by John C. Miller is finding it harder to win when everyone can pay their players and not just him.

you mean every Blue Blood not just miller

[UD62]

Seton Hall 79, Indiana State 77. State faded at the end

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by UD62 Seton Hall 79, Indiana State 77. State faded at the end

Had a seven point lead with under 4 to go.

Edwin Young was the alternate official.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Had a seven point lead with under 4 to go. Edwin Young was the alternate official.

I watched the last few minutes. ISU went cold. The crowd looked big and loud. Looked like a lot of ISU fans were there. ISU has not had a lot to cheer about thru the years. I felt bad for the ISU fans, they finally get a good team, and now the coach is possibly leaving.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by ud2 I watched the last few minutes. ISU went cold. The crowd looked big and loud. Looked like a lot of ISU fans were there. ISU has not had a lot to cheer about thru the years. I felt bad for the ISU fans, they finally get a good team, and now the coach is possibly leaving.

It did look like a great atmosphere.

[jack72]

It was a home game for ISU, as they are about two hours from Hinkle.